Electric Scania

[eskypep]

Oil will be used up in the foreseeable future. On the other hand, there is currently a lack of funds for a mass increase in electricity production and even more so for storage in vehicles. I don't think either has a future and perhaps there will be no vehicles on the road at all soon. Except maybe some that are pulled by animals. Apart from that, I was lucky and have just been able to test the E-Scania with a 21 t trailer. The acceleration is moderate. With a larger load uphill - I don't see that yet. Current feedback during braking is available, but seems very limited. The braking force itself is quite weak. In any case, a normal truck brakes much more strongly with the same settings. Btw, I just managed the distance of some 300 km while driving carefully and the battery was almost at its end. Just my opinion. Feel free to not share it.

[mojo_musica]

If it's opinions we're posting:
Most of that was complete nonsense.

Truck and car manufacturers are not developing electrically powered vehicles to follow a trend. They are pouring billions into transforming road transport and they expect to make more billions back from their investment, whether you think it is right, or not.
There is unlimited power from wind farms, hydro and nuclear generation, or did you forget that?

[Wolfgang]

What utter nonsense. There is a reason why Hydrogen is a thing. Because it can substitute conventional fuel for long distance hauls.

[EdVanStoned]

Originally posted by Wolfgang:

What utter nonsense. There is a reason why Hydrogen is a thing. Because it can substitute conventional fuel for long distance hauls.

Tell me you dont know anything about hydrogen, without telling me you dont know anything about hydrogen....

You know that mostly grey hydrogen is used for everything?
And grey hydrogen is created from fossil gas which releases CO2 in the air.
Maybe thats why hydrogen isnt really a thing anymore...
Yes, there was a short hype because of the quick refuelling but thats all hydrogen got.

Even if you make green hydrogen its plain dumb. Why?
With green hydrogen you use renewable electricity, to create hydrogen, and then you used the hydrogen as fuel to create electricity again...
Instead of using they renewable electricty form something directly, which is already possible since years!
There you have your "utter nonsense" xD

[Wolfgang]

Originally posted by EdVanStoned:

Originally posted by Wolfgang:

What utter nonsense. There is a reason why Hydrogen is a thing. Because it can substitute conventional fuel for long distance hauls.

Tell me you dont know anything about hydrogen, without telling me you dont know anything about hydrogen....

You know that mostly grey hydrogen is used for everything?
And grey hydrogen is created from fossil gas which releases CO2 in the air.
Maybe thats why hydrogen isnt really a thing anymore...
Yes, there was a short hype because of the quick refuelling but thats all hydrogen got.

Even if you make green hydrogen its plain dumb. Why?
With green hydrogen you use renewable electricity, to create hydrogen, and then you used the hydrogen as fuel to create electricity again...
Instead of using they renewable electricty form something directly, which is already possible since years!
There you have your "utter nonsense" xD

Alrighty, let's hear your solution for long distance cargo haul. Cause with a battery you won't get that far with a single charge AND you have to rebuild infrastructure while with hydrogen you can use existing infrastructure.