Lane keeping unusable

[Bnn1]

I watched a clip of someone playing the BETA / showing the beta and showcasing the innovative "Lane keeping assist" and the Truck just swerved left and right, even as far as slamming into walls.

I thought it weren't that bad in the final release but the assist is unusable.

It just slammed my truck into the guardrail while entering the autobahn, I was doing a right turn towards the autobahn entering point, but the assist thought it would be ok to suddenly turn the steering wheel 90° to the left, slamming me hard into the guardrail.

When on the autobahn, the lane assist could not distinguish between the safetly lane, the right lane, or the left lane, and eventually I ended up with 15% of damage (my truck as 0% when i started) because the lane assist keeps the lane for 2 meters.

It then suddenly starts swerving, and more and more so, until it switches lanes (!!!!) so I end up in the left lane, and at that point, the swerving is so bad that the second or third swerve sends the truck into the left guardrail at a 30° angle.

Too long didn't read: another damn feature that doesn't even remotely work and won't ever get used, gg.

[sayakai]

I can confirm it's pretty bad. Not *that* bad for me, but bad: it interferes with active steering, and it's too aggressive in its steering.

[DCI Murdoc]

I was pretty excited with the truck having slightly more autonomy but it definitely needs tweaking. If they adjust it so the steering assist maintains the centre line more and makes more minor corrections, it would be much more reliable.

[Drizzt]

I agree with you, in irl my assist maintain my car in the middle of the line. In the game it's swerving and unusable...

[Wolfgang]

It isn't a self driving mode. Also you have to use your turn signals, which you very clearly didn't do. No fault in the assist if you aren't following the rules.

[sayakai]

Originally posted by Wolfgang:

It isn't a self driving mode. Also you have to use your turn signals, which you very clearly didn't do. No fault in the assist if you aren't following the rules.

No, it's still the fault of the assistant. I don't need an assistant that judges me, I need one that provides utility. If I need to do sudden steering to avoid an emergency, the very last thing I need is an assistant deciding to countersteer because I didn't use turn signals.

And that still doesn't change that the correction is simply too strong. We're not asking for autopilot, but bouncing between lanes can't be intended behaviour.

[DCI Murdoc]

Originally posted by Wolfgang:

It isn't a self driving mode. Also you have to use your turn signals, which you very clearly didn't do. No fault in the assist if you aren't following the rules.

No one is expecting the truck to now drive anywhere by itself, making decisions at lights and what not, but if the lane assist can't even help me stay in the lane and behaves in a way that results in my steering being more erratic than if it was off, there is some minor tweaking to be made. All it needs to do is make tiny steering adjustments.

If the intention of the team is to introduce more autonomy, as quoted here "Now, truck drivers can enjoy simply turning it on along with adaptive cruise control, letting the truck do more of the driving," it isn't 100% there if I have to babysit the lane assist so it doesn't run me into a barrier.

Your opinion can differ from mine, I'm cool with that, but that's my perspective on its utility.

[Wolfgang]

Originally posted by sayakai:

Originally posted by Wolfgang:

It isn't a self driving mode. Also you have to use your turn signals, which you very clearly didn't do. No fault in the assist if you aren't following the rules.

No, it's still the fault of the assistant. I don't need an assistant that judges me, I need one that provides utility. If I need to do sudden steering to avoid an emergency, the very last thing I need is an assistant deciding to countersteer because I didn't use turn signals.

And that still doesn't change that the correction is simply too strong. We're not asking for autopilot, but bouncing between lanes can't be intended behaviour.

I used it and the worst I found it to do was not steer enough. If it steers you away from where you want to go then you didn't use your turn signal. And that is full user error.

[sayakai]

Originally posted by Wolfgang:

I used it and the worst I found it to do was not steer enough. If it steers you away from where you want to go then you didn't use your turn signal. And that is full user error.

If it doesn't steer you enough then you didn't use your steering wheel in a curve. And that is full user error. It seems you expected an autopilot, not a lane keeping assistant.

[Wolfgang]

Originally posted by sayakai:

Originally posted by Wolfgang:

I used it and the worst I found it to do was not steer enough. If it steers you away from where you want to go then you didn't use your turn signal. And that is full user error.

If it doesn't steer you enough then you didn't use your steering wheel in a curve. And that is full user error. It seems you expected an autopilot, not a lane keeping assistant.

I'm not expecting any kind of auto pilot, and you would have known that if you had read what I wrote. But you decided not to.