Does ETS2 look much worse on Linux?

[Glenn H.]

I am planning to move from Windows 11 to Ubuntu Linux. And I am relieved that ETS2 and ATS are supported on the Linux platform.

I assume that ETS2 runs on OpenGL on Linux, and therefore wonder if OpenGL looks much worse than DX11?

[Oz Gaming]

Why the heck would you even want to replace Windows 11 with Linux ?? That's just going backwards to an inferior OS

[Valderci]

Originally posted by Oz Gaming:

Why the heck would you even want to replace Windows 11 with Linux ?? That's just going backwards to an inferior OS

It doesn't matter why GL-H wants to do that. It is their choice, and they may have reasons for it. The question still stands and unfortunately you haven't answered it and I am unable to.

[Underscore_101_3]

Not sure if you will be able to tell, but you can choose to run the game in OpenGL on a windows machine.

[TwinShadow]

Ignore Oz Gaming. Linux, to some degree, is more secure (if the user has some common sense) than Windows in many cases. Just for reference, Linux also has malware too, but that being said, Windows by far has the largest marketshare followed by macOS.

Now, OpenGL is pretty old and yeah, it isn't going to look quite that good. I do recall seeing ETS2 in Windows under OpenGL and whew... nowhere near as good as DirectX. While it will work, doesn't have the fancy stuff.

What I am hoping for though is for SCS to eventually implement Vulkan, which is essentially the successor to OpenGL. Works on all platforms, and can also look pretty good. I mean, X4: Foundations looks amazing and it uses Vulkan as it's graphics API.

One thing you could do may be to run ATS/ETS2 under Proton. This would emulate DirectX as it'd be running as a Windows application, so perhaps that could work. I have not tried this, but certainly worth a shot.

[Bullet399]

have a look here for the nice linux cosmos. Playin around 10+ years games on linux with steam. If you want to see if your game is working in linux have a look here: https://www.protondb.com/

[nevryn]

Originally posted by Oz Gaming:

Why the heck would you even want to replace Windows 11 with Linux ?? That's just going backwards to an inferior OS

You mean hes going from a proprietry inhenently insecure OS because it has no concept of security levels, to one which does. Not only that he's going from one which is not bloated and reliant from a highly inefficient 'registry' to one which runs in 2/3 the ram footprint and 3 times faster. Can't see why he would want to myself ...

[l0rdm0rd]

it's amazing that it's 2024 now and we still have idealistic discussions about Windows vs. Linux like we're still in the 90s. Each OS has proven its purpose for literal decades, there's no need for bashing each other. Windows won't go away, Linux won't replace it. @GL-H i would never go with "oooh i will moooove to a completely different OS and there's no turning back and i'm scared!!!!" Omg this is SO unneccessary. It is SO unneccessary to LIMIT yourself like this. Just get some cheap second drive (SSD, HDD...) for you computer, install Linux there and just boot up the OS you prefer at the time, or for which purpose it serves best. This way, you can "safely" test stuff like gaming on Linux and if you're not happy about certain things, just boot up Windows again and use it for that. There is no need to annoy developers or communities with idealism like that if there are ways to come up with a working solution on your own.

[Antaiir]

I can't see any difference in visual appearance of ETS2 on Windows vs Linux, i tried both.

Originally posted by Oz Gaming:

Why the heck would you even want to replace Windows 11 with Linux ?? That's just going backwards to an inferior OS

May i ask, how many years of Linux experience do you have? What makes Linux an "inferior OS" in your opinion? What exactly can you do on Windows, but not on Linux?

Are you just flaming what you don't understand and/or use yourself, or do you have any valid points to provide against using Linux?

[RoadAquila]

To answer your question in a broader fashion Windows is the right choice for gaming while Linux is for pretty much everything else. So does ETS 2 runs better on Windows ?, most likely, but this shouldn't stop you to play it under Linux if that's the OS of your heart's content.

[Glenn H.]

So, I tried running ETS2 on OpenGL on Windows 11. Unfortunately I got a game breaking lag/stutter that made it impossible to drive safely. I don't know what caused this, I used the same graphics settings as on DX11 launch.

[Wolfpig]

Originally posted by GL-H:

So, I tried running ETS2 on OpenGL on Windows 11. Unfortunately I got a game breaking lag/stutter that made it impossible to drive safely. I don't know what caused this, I used the same graphics settings as on DX11 launch.

It sometimes depends on your hardware and the driver of it.
if i recall correctly (not sure if it was/is nvidia or amd) there where long time no driver improvements for some gpu so that opengl ran a lot worse then it should have.

And even as the driver support on Linux got better in the last decade, the (native) drivers itself may still be not as good as on windows.

If i where you i would hope that scs replaces opengl with Vulcan in the future, so that the game can still be run as a native Linux Version, and not goes the same way as 99% of games on steam.....ignoring linux completly and hope that it will run with the proton wrapper....

[TwinShadow]

nVidia and AMD do provide native Linux drivers. nVidia's though have a tendency to be hit and miss (same for Windows really, it's why I don't update my drivers religiously, only every so often), and sometimes I get the feeling they're not the biggest fans of Linux.

That isn't to say AMD is better on Linux, their Windows drivers have been known to be a little problematic at times... Products are good, but damn those drivers.... However, at least on that note, AMD does make it easier to install Linux drivers compared to nVidia.

[tutacat]

No it's the same game. Just make sure your settings match. If you had any settings stored in the driver's settings client only, then copy those over too, or try and copy them to the linux version of the driver using global environment variables in your ~/.profile file. The implementation in OpenGL is by SCS for their own engine, draw calls will be similar because they control the same graphics instructions, and they will have compared their implementations of both D3D and OGL

If you really want to test if theres a difference between GL and Direct3D you can try changing that in game on windows, or try running the game on Windows version on your Linux OS (by selecting Proton compatability tool in Steam\>Library\>ETS2\>Properties for that game)

[tutacat]

Originally posted by Oz Gaming:

Why the heck would you even want to replace Windows 11 with Linux ?? That's just going backwards to an inferior OS

To answer Oz Gaming's question, Linux OSes do by default what Windows take many steps, and much more trust (i.e. split trust of software apps), to do. And you can choose competely different desktops, and the OS by design doesn't get in your way to do anything There are usually less manual steps for setup. Most open-source drivers are pre-installed in the kernel, and depending on OS (distribution) the other drivers you may want should be easily installable from the package manager. You can often choose graphics drivers before you install so you get the experience you want straight away. The reason for the slight friction is Software Patents, which on Win/Mac are hidden from you because the software (and patents) are already paid for in the license.

On Windows, the app's developer has final say, for better and for worse, on what exactly they do on your computer. With the larger Linux OSes, packages are tested by others, and fixes made, before problems get to you on the normal stable repository.

[Laetitia]

Originally posted by Oz Gaming:

Why the heck would you even want to replace Windows 11 with Linux ?? That's just going backwards to an inferior OS

Linux is better for optimization and if he have a bad computer / is developer, Linux is the best choice.
Windows is optimized like ♥♥♥♥, not customizable, full of garbage app, really not a good OS but it's the one everyone use by default.