Automatic transmission question

[Lenny]

am i the only one who thinks the automatic transmission doesnt feel right? when going straight at 80 km/h the transmission will never shift to 12th gear on its own. it will stay at 11th gear at ~1450 rpm. to get to 12th gear i have to bring it to 1500 rpm or use shift up hint. why does the transmission not shift to 12th gear on its own to drive 80 km/h at ~1100 rpm to save lots of fuel?
The transmission only shifts when it goes below 1000 rpm or above 1500 rpm or when load is too high and it cant accelerate, but it will never shift up to use lower rpm for fuel efficiency. is it like this in real life too?
in other games when going straight and not accelerating the transmission will shift to optimal gear

[kaki_gamet]

In Options -> Controls, there is again Transmission and below it Adaptive automatic transmission. From what I remember, if you are playing it on keyboard (like I do), the latter should be set to Disabled. Give it a try, or just, give it a look.

[Lenny]

Originally posted by kaki_gamet:

In Options -> Controls, there is again Transmission and below it Adaptive automatic transmission. From what I remember, if you are playing it on keyboard (like I do), the latter should be set to Disabled. Give it a try, or just, give it a look.

this only makes the transmission shift down when going above a certain amount of throttle. it adds no intelligence to shifting. i use wheel and pedals

[AoD_lexandro]

Afaik all you have to do is lift the throttle and it will shift up. It holds the gear as you may be climbing and not want to shift up at that point.

[Lenny]

Originally posted by AoD_lexandro:

Afaik all you have to do is lift the throttle and it will shift up. It holds the gear as you may be climbing and not want to shift up at that point.

thats not really what i meant. yes, when using adaptive transmission when over 1500 rpm. but im talking about between 1000 and 1500 rpm. when between 1000 and 1500 rpm the game will do nothing when going the same speed you can drive 1499 rpm all day, it will not shift up to use a better gear. only when going above 1500 or using shift up hint.

[Briannospam]

I can't remember about other trucks with other transmission, but with Volvo (both models) with a 750 hk engine and a 12+2 gearbox I have the same thing. (the automatic never shift to 12 at 80 km/h)

I don't know about real life's modern cars/trucks with automatic, but I know some older cars with automatic can have similar issues.

Both some of the old real life cars, and the trucks in the game, you can trick to shift up, simply by increase your speed until it shift up to 12'th gear, and then lower your speed again and the gear will not shift down before you are to low in rpm to use the 12'th gear.

[Lenny]

Originally posted by briannospam:

I can't remember about other trucks with other transmission, but with Volvo (both models) with a 750 hk engine and a 12+2 gearbox I have the same thing. (the automatic never shift to 12 at 80 km/h)

all gearboxes behave the same in this game. i would guess modern trucks like in this game should be intelligent enough to to choose the perfect gear when not accelerating.
11th gear at 1400 rpm at 80 km/h and not much stress to engine is not the optimal gear. 12th gear at 1100 would be the better gear and we should not have to trick the gearbox by going faster and then slower or use shift up hint.

[Lenny]

Originally posted by ZiEGE:

Originally posted by briannospam:

I can't remember about other trucks with other transmission, but with Volvo (both models) with a 750 hk engine and a 12+2 gearbox I have the same thing. (the automatic never shift to 12 at 80 km/h)

all gearboxes behave the same in this game. i would guess modern trucks like in this game should be intelligent enough to to choose the perfect gear when not accelerating.
11th gear at 1400 rpm at 80 km/h and not much stress to engine is not the optimal gear. 12th gear at 1100 would be the better gear and we should not have to trick the gearbox by going faster and then slower or use shift up hint.

and its not just about 11th and 12th gear. its about all the gears. it does the same with other gears too. want to drive 50 km/h? if you are currently in 9th gear it will not chose 10th gear if 10th is better for keeping 50 km/h and no uphill. i played over 500 hours and this game's automatic gearbox mode does not feel right.

[Lenny]

it is my favorite game, but realistic transmission is important in a truck simulation i think. it doesnt have to be perfect copy of real life, but it should try to get close to real truck transmission. downshifting at too much engine load or low rpm feels good enough in this game, but upshifting only when going above 1500 rpm doesnt seem right.

[Vivalazuzu]

I witness the same thing. Steering wheel and pedals. If on a flat road, cruising at 80km/h you need to drive up to about 85-88km/h before it will change gears. If your lucky you won't get fined by the police lol. Volvo FH16 Globetrotter Classic with 700HP. I thought it would change but no. Maybe in the next update they can do it?

[Lenny]

Originally posted by Vivalazuzu:

I witness the same thing. Steering wheel and pedals. If on a flat road, cruising at 80km/h you need to drive up to about 85-88km/h before it will change gears. If your lucky you won't get fined by the police lol. Volvo FH16 Globetrotter Classic with 700HP. I thought it would change but no. Maybe in the next update they can do it?

whenever a new update comes i hope for an auto transmission update but it never happens

[kaki_gamet]

Thought someone with your same hardware (wheel and pedals) was coming in with a solution but didn't, or maybe not yet. What about to set Adaptive automatic transmission to Economy mode in Options -> Controls? Does it do the trick?

[tjmack]

I run a Scania 8x4 730bhp with the Opticruise GRS0 925R transmission and I reach and stay in top (12th) pretty easily (standard or power mode). I rarely haul anything real heavy with it though.

It's a different story with the Volvo 750bhp. 11th gear is the usual unless I give it some welly and ease off.

A MS Sidewinder joystick is my main controller.

[Lenny]

Originally posted by kaki_gamet:

Thought someone with your same hardware (wheel and pedals) was coming in with a solution but didn't, or maybe not yet. What about to set Adaptive automatic transmission to Economy mode in Options -> Controls? Does it do the trick?

there is a plugin (same page where the force feedback plugin is found) but it doesnt work very well. often times it goes crazy at low speeds. So i thought why doesnt SCS ever fix the auto transmission? it is called simulator... :/
Adaptive Auto transmission modes only change at which position of throttle it will shift down. i heard in real life the thottle has a point past 100% throttle where if you press it harder it will make click and then go high power mode. tuning on adaptive auto mode does not make it more intelligent, it only tuns the truck to high power mode when you want to go fast. (i find adaptive auto mode annoying, because you cant really feel when it is going to activate the high power mode and then you accidentally press throttle too much and rpm will go crazy high until you let go of the throttle again.)

[Karlia]

Lets get one thing clear the POWER mode in a truck is not like a car it has nothing to do with making the truck go "faster", it is for making the transmission hold gears for a longer period and closer changes for hill work. Economy mode preforms more skip changes on flat to rolling.. the "Click: DOES NOT put the truck in to power mode, it is a kickdown switch and will only kick down if the perameters are in tollerance, you got given an answer by lexandro but you didn't like it, if you are going to drive ToF in ETS as in real world the computer is going to hold back the up shift especially if you are hovering close to the minimum threshold of the upshift... lift your foot off the throttle instead of ToF'ing the thing and you may find the simulation of the transmission does a pretty good job for a piece of 20 dollar software (including other content). Its as realistic as yours or anyone else's budget is going to afford or willing to pay for...

Drive safe..
Karli
RL FH16 Jockey...

[rgx107]

This annoys me too slightly, that you have to manual shift to top gear. It wouldn't be that difficult to add an integration or timer that shifts into right gear after a while like a modern gear box does. There is already an adaptive gear box that works quite well, must have been far more effort to implement.