Confused about sleeping time

[Delfi-Chan❤]

Hi there, I know this may have been asked already but I couldn't find it, so here I go :

I'm confused about the sleeping time as even if I sleep right before starting a delivery, if that delivery requires 12 hours to be completed for example, without ferry, I will still need to sleep again after a few hours, so before completing it and I will be late because I can't sleep less than 8 hours!
Am I doing something wrong? Shouldn't I be able to be awake for many hours, say 16 hours after sleeping, at least?
Thank you for your help!

[SiSL]

It is not about you being away for rest of the day, it is "legal duration" that you can be driving without resting.. Over labor is serious human-rights issue... and Europe does not allow that.

In real, it is 4 hours max you can drive at one session without resting, then with giving breaks about half hours, you can totally drive around 10-11 hours max without 8 hours rest minimum.

In game we don't give small breaks but in total it is 10-11 hours driving max without long rest.

[Dim67]

Normally you wont need to sleep "after a few hours". If you sleep first, then find a new job and go start the delivery, if thats a short trip like you said you should be able to make the delivery on time. Sometimes you might have to drive into the "red zone" but still be able to drop off before getting fined.

[HGV Driver]

If you rest then take a 12 hr trip job you`ll need to take another rest before you complete the delivery. If you have say 4hrs before your next rest stop just take the job and rest when your next due and you`ll complete the job with time to about three hrs before your next rest period.

[kotekzot]

The ETA is calculated based on you driving at 60 kph, if you drive the speed limit or above you're going to arrive much earlier than that, but yeah, if you take a short job while knackered you're going to have a bad time.

[Delfi-Chan❤]

Sorry guys I just realised I forgot to answer you. Thank you all for your help and suggestions.

@SiSL I'm aware of how big an issue over labor is and wasn't willing to be offensive or unrespectful at all, I was just wondering if there was another way to succesfully deliver my cargos without incurring in the late arrival fee or having to rush things up instead. When I realised that although I had slept and then gotten the job, but by the time I had managed to reach the commissioning company and loaded the cargo I had lost quite a few time so that I would have needed to sleep before being able to finish the job, I rally wished that either the overall delivery time frame was slightly wider so that I could both sleep and be on time or be able to sleep for less time and then recover later, right after finishing my delivery.

I thought about something like you sleep at a services area? You sleep less. You can still sleep more times to get to full recovery if you like.
You sleep next to a repair shop? You either sleep less or for a medium amount of time, still with the option to sleep more if you need to.
You sleep at a hotel? You sleep all the time you need.
Something like that would be very helpful. Just my suggestion btw.

@Dim67 A few times it occured to me to try and go faster and either get fined for that or get fined anyway because I was yawning (right after getting into the limit zone as if someone was following me ready to fine me lol) but yeah that sometimes help, especially if you are very close to the drop off time.

@HGV Driver That way wouldn't I be late for my job?

@kotekzot Exactly, I wish there was a wider time-frame or an option to sleep less or maybe some way to call with a cell phone and say "I'm late, I already know I will be, don't fine me (you should have given more time or can't a person possibly sleep at least once in a 22 hours delivery?!)"

[SiSL]

You got me wrong. I'm not being defensive or offended.

It is European Laws to sleep at least 8 hours between next plugging your card to your truck... So game follows European laws. So you can't "okay, I rested in 4 hours, lets get back to work" in both game and real. Truck won't start :D What you do with your spare time evne if you feel rested is not important, it is just you can't drive :)

Anyway, you can always turn off sleeping option from game play options but what's the fun in that :)

[Drevin]

Originally posted by Delfinaccia:

When I realised that although I had slept and then gotten the job, but by the time I had managed to reach the commissioning company and loaded the cargo I had lost quite a few time so that I would have needed to sleep before being able to finish the job, I rally wished that either the overall delivery time frame was slightly wider so that I could both sleep and be on time or be able to sleep for less time and then recover later, right after finishing my delivery.

From what you're saying, I get the feeling that you travelled to another city (or at least travelled to a distant location in the same city) to pick up the trailer. Try not to do this. It is both time and fuel consuming for you. Try to always pick jobs in your immediate vecinity (less than 10km away). This way you lower your expenses, and also manage your time better.

A few months ago, it was hard to judge how far a location was away from you, but since the update that gave us waypoints on the map, you can see exactly how much you'd have to travel to a pickup location, and see if it's worth it to get a job from there or not.

[LOLBack]

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[jock678]

Hi Guys,

Drivers hours laws are very complex. If caught breaking them the fines are heavy and could possibly result in up to six months in jail.

IRL European Drivers hours are:

Maximum daily driving time is 9hrs which may be extended to 10 hours twice a week. The most you can drive in any two weekly period is 90hrs.

The most you can drive in one session is 4h 30m. You must then take a 45m break.

A daily rest period is 11hrs. This can be reduced to 9hrs three times a week. You can also split you daily rest into two blocks. The first being 3hrs rest then a second of 9hrs.

There are also weekly rest periods and special rules when using ferries/trains.

[brian_va]

Originally posted by Delfinaccia:

A few times it occured to me to try and go faster and either get fined for that

Speeding isn't really the answer, trying to maintin a constant speed is. Look at your route before you set off. If it takes you through a city when there is a highway or something that goes around it, take it. You can also try to plan a route to stay on highways or country roads that don't go through towns the whole way. It may end up being longer in terms of distance, but being able to stay at 80 kmph for the majority of the distance will make up for the longer journey. It's something you will get a feel for as you spend more time in the game.
You will also get a feel for how the AI will react in certain situations, and will be able to act proactively to avoid having to slow down/stop due to the AI doing what the AI does.

[Sekkuar666]

The job will always have enough time to take into account resting times.

Even if it is an ungent delivery.

[kotekzot]

Originally posted by brian_va:

Originally posted by Delfinaccia:

A few times it occured to me to try and go faster and either get fined for that

Speeding isn't really the answer, trying to maintin a constant speed is. Look at your route before you set off. If it takes you through a city when there is a highway or something that goes around it, take it. You can also try to plan a route to stay on highways or country roads that don't go through towns the whole way. It may end up being longer in terms of distance, but being able to stay at 80 kmph for the majority of the distance will make up for the longer journey. It's something you will get a feel for as you spend more time in the game.
You will also get a feel for how the AI will react in certain situations, and will be able to act proactively to avoid having to slow down/stop due to the AI doing what the AI does.

Actually, speeding is totally an answer. I routinely finish with 20-30 hours left on the timer on ~2000 km jobs by driving at 130 kph on highways. You just have to watch out for speed traps. You're right about customizing the route being important, often the default route isn't even the shortest possible, not to mention that it often unnecessarily takes you off highways and onto country roads.

[brian_va]

Originally posted by kotekzot:

Actually, speeding is totally an answer.

Well, that is technically true. That is assuming you don't blow your income on tickets, and are able to maintain control of the truck and load at that speed and not cause accidents and damage the load. This was kinda aimed at a newer player, so perhaps I unfairly judged their ability to control the truck at that speed.
That kind of time left over is pretty common even if you follow speed limits, it's all a matter of figuring out how the game and the AI work. And before too many people jump on it, it's a single player game, and if you chose to drive at that speed, that is your call.

[kotekzot]

I make ~90 euro per kilometer. At 130 kph, I travel about 1 km per real world second. A speeding fine is 550 euros. It takes ~6 seconds for me to make enough money driving to pay back the fine. Not to mention that nearly every trap is trivial to notice and slow down for, so you rarely get fined. It's true that speeding may not be viable for all skill levels, though.