60 FPS locked on an 80 HZ display?

[addicted 2 jugging]

So I successfully overclocked my 60 hz monitor to 80 hz, and I remember there being an option in ETS2 for 24, 30, and 60. however, now there is just 60. Any ideas on how to get it up to 80? (I already messed with V Sync, but that did nothing)

[Karlia]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Nono54Fr:

Not impossible but highely unlikely. If your display is a LCD with a DVI or HDMI plug, then your 80Hz goes against every standard, norms, definitions and white paper for the past 20 years.

NB: a screenshot of the nVidia control panel is not a valid proof at all.

That's right you tell him how it is..

https://1drv.ms/u/s!Aiu3vCNFrVLph58TEC_yTHwYRY4WFQ

[Nono54Fr]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Karli:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Nono54Fr:

Not impossible but highely unlikely. If your display is a LCD with a DVI or HDMI plug, then your 80Hz goes against every standard, norms, definitions and white paper for the past 20 years.

NB: a screenshot of the nVidia control panel is not a valid proof at all.

That's right you tell him how it is..

https://1drv.ms/u/s!Aiu3vCNFrVLph58TEC_yTHwYRY4WFQ

Not a proof. The control panel is showing what you want to do, the OSD of the display will show (should show) what it is actually doing.

[Karlia]

Right so the monitors yellow OCD reading in the top right is not what you want??? funny I could have sworn it was????

[AoD_lexandro]

No you need to check the actual refresh rate in the monitors control panel. OSD can show anything. I can have my OSD say 120fps, if I disable v-sync. Doesn't make my display 120hz though.

[Foozer]

Isnt it easier just to disable vsync? vsync on = 60 fps max, vsync off = xx fps whats possible with the hardware Oo
What comes next? overclocking of the speakers, that the sound gets faster?

[AoD_lexandro]

The point is foozer is the max you actually see is the refresh rate. All those extra frames are wasted as they are not actually displayed at all. V-sync just locks the graphics card to the same maximum rate as the display has to stop tearing and picture blurring.

[Foozer]

Ok, understood. Never cared about that. And for my personal feeling it has to run smooth. And thats for me @60 fps. Never thought what happens with those frames above the refreshrate of my monitor :) I always play with vsync on, only exceptions are FPS like CS:GO.
But that explains the matter of those 144hz monitors. As always...sorry for my english, its not my native language.

[Karlia]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von AoD_lexandro:

No you need to check the actual refresh rate in the monitors control panel. OSD can show anything. I can have my OSD say 120fps, if I disable v-sync. Doesn't make my display 120hz though.

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Nono54Fr:

Not a proof. The control panel is showing what you want to do, the OSD of the display will show (should show) what it is actually doing.

Anything else, or are you just going to keep moving the goal posts?
https://1drv.ms/u/s!Aiu3vCNFrVLph58ZoGDYuRp2HFroRg

[AoD_lexandro]

Cue facepalm,

Thats a 100hz display. GG on completely missing the point.

[Karlia]

NO!!! you are missing the point, the point is that it was stated the LDC monitors do not! can not! white paper emphatically wont! do 80Hz. That is what I was pointing at.

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Nono54Fr:

Not impossible but highely unlikely. If your display is a LCD with a DVI or HDMI plug, then your 80Hz goes against every standard, norms, definitions and white paper for the past 20 years.

and FYI the monitor is a 60Hz that is "overclockable" it is NOT a native 100Hz monitor and "white papered recommendation not to keep it in that state"
If Toyota has managed to OC his monitor kudos to him, not need to shoot him down so you can all feel empowered with your wikigoogle knowledge.

[Nono54Fr]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Karli:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von AoD_lexandro:

No you need to check the actual refresh rate in the monitors control panel. OSD can show anything. I can have my OSD say 120fps, if I disable v-sync. Doesn't make my display 120hz though.

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Nono54Fr:

Not a proof. The control panel is showing what you want to do, the OSD of the display will show (should show) what it is actually doing.

Anything else, or are you just going to keep moving the goal posts?
https://1drv.ms/u/s!Aiu3vCNFrVLph58ZoGDYuRp2HFroRg

What's so freaking hard to understand ?

There is 3 things at play here :
. Software = the control panel
- Hardware controlled by the software = the GPU
- Hardware = the display

The title of the topic, aka the goal post, is ' overclocking the monitor ', the third part. The premises of the topic is about making the display actually runs @80Hz and displaying 80FPS. Everything you have done so far, and proved to have done, is twitching the first 2 parts, not the monitor. The nVidia control panel, the yellow counter = software = not the monitor.

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Karli:

NO!!! you are missing the point, the point is that it was stated the LDC monitors do not! can not! white paper emphatically wont! do 80Hz. That is what I was pointing at.

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Nono54Fr:

Not impossible but highely unlikely. If your display is a LCD with a DVI or HDMI plug, then your 80Hz goes against every standard, norms, definitions and white paper for the past 20 years.

What the heck is wrong with you ? We talking about a 60Hz LCD, not a 100Hz LCD.

[AoD_lexandro]

@Karli

Wrong and wrong again. That is not what he said at all. The entire point of the thread from the get go was that a 60hz screen cannot be pushed beyond its max rate.

You have a 100hz screen, your entire contribution to the thread is pointless and is nothing more than red herring. You misunderstood the thread entirely and the point of the reply. Just admit you made a mistake and move on.

[Karlia]

@Nono54Fr that panel is the HARDWARE interface of the montor NOT software.. ok cool no worries.. I surrender..

[addicted 2 jugging]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Nono54Fr:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von 1984 Toyota Corolla:

You all are saying its not possible, but I ran tests and yet I can notice a significant difference between the two. Same on games I tested. I would really appriciate some potential ideas I can do ingame to work with

Not impossible but highely unlikely. If your display is a LCD with a DVI or HDMI plug, then your 80Hz goes against every standard, norms, definitions and white paper for the past 20 years.

NB: a screenshot of the nVidia control panel is not a valid proof at all.

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Millhiore F. Biscotti:

Some recording programs (eg. Fraps) let you set a framerate limit while recording. I imagine there might be another external program allows you to set a framerate limit without the recording part, and setting it to 80 might liberate your monitor somehow if you're sure it's capable of 80.

It's ... just wrong. Fraps include a framerate limiter for a smooth playback at a later date, because it's easier to do less if you can do more, but not the opposite. I mean, if your car can do 80mph, then it can do 40mph without a doubt but 160mph is not guaranteed.

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Millhiore F. Biscotti:

80 is one of the available settings for the Dell 1025HE.

That Dell 1025HE is a CRT Monitor and those could have a refresh rate of 200Hz and 80Hz for a CRT is the norm, not an exception, whereas here, it's about pushing a 60Hz monitor above that, ergo not likely a CRT but a LCD, whom are limited to 60Hz by their electronics and their firmwares.

well then what counts as proof?

[Vellari]

Quite the debate.

Some displays overclock, some don't.

From personal experience, even if you can set a display to certain refresh rate does not automatically mean it is actually working at that rate. You have to verify it.

I used to own a Asus PB278Q (1440p 60Hz monitor) and was able to set it to 74 or 75 Hz (I forget), but when actually went to check...it was dropping frames. Ie, still showing me only 60 images/s despite the refresh setting. Afaik Asus in particular locks down their display electronics this way, but your experience may vary depending on the model.

To actually verify you are getting the frames you are asking:
https://www.testufo.com/frameskipping