Towing should NOT cancel your current delivery...

[The Spartan]

I mean let's say you've been driving for 4-5 hours, from Turkey to Spain, everything has been going well so far, and just a few kilometers from your final destination, you somehow get stuck somewhere because of a bug or maybe you flip your truck and trailer or whatever, and in the end you are in need of towing.

The whole process of towing should also include your cargo, not just your truck, and should implicitly NOT cancel your delivery because in the example above, you basically just lost 4-5 hours...you drove roughly 4.000km for nothing...

The reason I'm bringing this up is because the above actually happened to me today and I lost about 4 hours of progress because I needed to be towed and that completely canceled my delivery. I mean come on...

No console commands worked when trying to respawn/flip/move/teleport my truck and trailer and upon trying to reload another save, for some reason, all my previous saves - manual, auto and quick - all of them, spanning a good 2-3 hours back, did nothing but spawn me in the same place my truck was flipped which makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. Over 20 saves, manual ones, auto ones and quick ones, all of them, upon loading, put me in the same location at different hours, still flipped and in need of towing. It was as if all my saves had been created upon my accident. What is that all about?

Has this never been brought up before? I mean if they're going to tow my truck, they may as well tow my cargo as well. It should cost more, obviously, but that wouldn't be a problem. Or at the very least, lift my trailer into a working position, tow my truck and leave the trailer where the accident/bug happened so that I can quickly go back and attempt to finish my delivery, assuming I still have time left.

Either way, one of these, or maybe some other solution I might be missing right now, should be a feature, since losing hours of progress just because you need the towing service which for some reason cancels your current delivery, is unacceptable to say the least.

[MirkoC407]

On World of Trucks contracts this is to avoid cheating. There were some "specialists" who got themself towed into the city of destination and took away rewards from honest players who drove all the way. Back then in campaigns there were usually some reward items limited for the first to reach a target only. And still today cities during campaigns will accept a certain number of pickups or deliveries only for the community rewards. You still can go from or to there, but it won't count for the community target. If towing was available, you would get even more bilge water than even now the power players will leave over for the occasional after work player.

First approach would be driving in a way no tow is required. I mean, in over 2000 playing hours on both sims combined i've needed that twice or so. If you want to keep your driving style and your cargo, avoid the WoT market and take the locally on your computer generated orders in the freight market or trailer contracts.

[Joe__Walker]

The only solution is, don't use external contract. They take this decision to cancel the order, after player abusing the towing system for shorten the delivery distance.

[The Spartan]

Wait, so this only happens with External Contracts and the External Market, both which are tied to the WOT hub?

If the same thing had happened to me while using either the Freight Market or Cargo Market, since they are both "offline/local" and not part of the WOT hub, I could've used the towing service while keeping my current delivery?

Just want to make sure - if I only use the game's "singleplayer/offline/local/whatever you want to call it" Job Market, what happens if I need to be towed? Will the game cancel my current delivery?

[Reese]

During a World of Trucks contract, if you try to use F7 to tow to service, it will state on the screen that your load will be lost. World of Trucks keeps track of your traveled progress, will not let you use console commands to teleport, and saves your location, including any accidents that may have occurred(rollover, 100% damage, jacknife, off-roaded).

During normal, non-WoT, loads, using F7, or the other above mentioned methods of transport, will not cancel your load. You can also freely teleport and upright yourself with no penalty, and load an earlier save to avoid your accidents.

[Sandhill]

Originally posted by The_Spartan_LegendTV:

I mean let's say you've been driving for 4-5 hours, from Turkey to Spain, everything has been going well so far, and just a few kilometers from your final destination, you somehow get stuck somewhere because of a bug or maybe you flip your truck and trailer or whatever, and in the end you are in need of towing.

IRL you would certainly lose your load and probably your job if you flipped your truck. I have never encountered a need to tow due to a bug, and it is hard to imagine that happening, really, unless perhaps as the result of a mod (your fault).

[canis39]

This happened to me recently as well -- took a job for 162,000 Euro from Sweden to Spain, and very close to my destination an NPC truck changed lanes and ran me into a guardrail, where I got stuck. Had to be towed to a repair shop and spent 50,000 Euro on repairs. So I went from +162,000 to -50,000, just like that. Absolutely crazy... but that is the price of using World Of Trucks.

[Sandhill]

Originally posted by canis39:

Absolutely crazy... but that is the price of using World Of Trucks.

And letting yourself get hit

[canis39]

Originally posted by Sandhill:

Originally posted by canis39:

Absolutely crazy... but that is the price of using World Of Trucks.

And letting yourself get hit :lunar2019smilingpig:

Well, there was nothing I could do about that, I was passing a truck and he just suddenly decided to come into my lane. I had no time or opportunity to do anything but crash. (Later I figured out why he changed lanes -- because a police car was parked on the shoulder).

[The Spartan]

Originally posted by Reese:

During normal, non-WoT, loads, using F7, or the other above mentioned methods of transport, will not cancel your load.

Good to know. Now don't take this the wrong way - I'm still skeptical until I test it to be 100% sure that this only occurs in WOT jobs, but if it is indeed the case and I won't lose my cargo in non-WOT jobs, then thanks a lot for the reply.

Originally posted by Sandhill:

IRL you would certainly lose your load and probably your job if you flipped your truck.

Be that as it may, this is still a videogame and not real life. Sim or no sim, we are talking about a videogame here.

Originally posted by canis39:

This happened to me recently as well -- took a job for 162,000 Euro from Sweden to Spain, and very close to my destination an NPC truck changed lanes and ran me into a guardrail, where I got stuck. Had to be towed to a repair shop and spent 50,000 Euro on repairs. So I went from +162,000 to -50,000, just like that. Absolutely crazy... but that is the price of using World Of Trucks.

Damn, dude...sorry to hear.

But yeah, if, like everyone here says, this only happens in WOT jobs, then it's a price I will never pay again, as I'm officially going to renounce all WOT jobs. I mean I have a "realistic physics mod" and if I'm not extra careful, I could flip my truck in so many ways it's crazy. And if this sort of thing is to ever happen again, I'd like my progress saved so screw the WOT jobs.

[Nimir-Raj]

Suspend job. Go to services. Resume job.

Not that hard really.

[The Spartan]

Originally posted by Mohegan13:

Suspend job. Go to services. Resume job.

Not that hard really.

Wow. So helpful, especially since I didn't understand anything in regards to what exactly I'm supposed to do...

Unlike other people, I haven't been playing this game for 10.000 hours, so a detailed response would've been way more helpful.

[MirkoC407]

Originally posted by The_Spartan_LegendTV:

Unlike other people, I haven't been playing this game for 10.000 hours, so a detailed response would've been way more helpful.

Sorry to hit back - but sometimes I wonder how I managed to play this game the first 5 months between buying it and joining the first forum without getting stuck somewhere in the user interface...

[kaki_gamet]

@Spartan - better to stay away from WoT until you are fully seasoned with your modded physic. In any non WoT job the tow to service feature won't cancel your delivery, and to reload won't put you back where you flipped over. Mind of it as offline vs MMO modes (where you have full control vs much less control).

Only thing to worry is that from time to time a patch may send you back to your home garage while canceling your job, so be sure to finish any deliver in a single session.

[The Spartan]

Originally posted by kaki_gamet:

@Spartan - better to stay away from WoT until you are fully seasoned with your modded physic. In any non WoT job the tow to service feature won't cancel your delivery, and to reload won't put you back where you flipped over. Mind of it as offline vs MMO modes (where you have full control vs much less control).

Only thing to worry is that from time to time a patch may send you back to your home garage while canceling your job, so be sure to finish any deliver in a single session.

Now here is an actual, concrete, polite and "to the point" answer. Thank you.

I took a non-WOT job a few hours ago and immediately tried the towing service just to see what the notification would say and indeed, any towing in those jobs does not cancel my delivery, so like I said, I'm done with WOT jobs. At least for a while.

As for any future patches and/or updates sending me back to my garage and potentially cancelling my current job, that's something I can live with. I will do my best to finish my deliveries before ending my sessions, but if for some reason I can't and a patch/update cancels a job, well, no harm, no foul.

Thanks again, everybody! Have a good one!

[joseph.iudice]

Well that sucks....autosaves don't prevent the loss of the trailer. Two hours of my life wasted on 132K delivery about 10 minutes from the destination...