can my truck carry heavy loads?

[jarnix]

so uh, right now i have a 60 ton cargo that i can pick up, i but i dont know if my truck is fit for the job

[Briannospam]

All trucks can drive with all loads, even the weakest trucks can drive with the heaviest loads. :)
But of course, the weakest trucks will fall much more in speed up hikes with heavy loads than a strong truck will do.

[elendil093]

Originally posted by Briannospam:

All trucks can drive with all loads, even the weakest trucks can drive with the heaviest loads. :)
But of course, the weakest trucks will fall much more in speed up hikes with heavy loads than a strong truck will do.

That's not true... I'm trying to find info about how to adjust my truck, because I accepted a heavy load and there was a little slope and it couldn't move, no matter what I do... so I had to cancel the job (and lose $15k euros, of course). I have an expensive truck, but I don't know what I need to make my truck more "powerful" and manage better heavy loads :/

[Briannospam]

Originally posted by elendil093:

Originally posted by Briannospam:

All trucks can drive with all loads, even the weakest trucks can drive with the heaviest loads. :)
But of course, the weakest trucks will fall much more in speed up hikes with heavy loads than a strong truck will do.

That's not true...

You're right ... now. :)
But the post you are answering is also from March 27th.

In previous versions of the game, all truck configurations have been able to pull all kinds of loads.
This relationship has obviously been changed in one of the recent game upgrades without anyone being aware of this until a few months ago.

Since this change was discovered, I have changed my recommendations for truck configurations.

Originally posted by elendil093:

I'm trying to find info about how to adjust my truck, because I accepted a heavy load and there was a little slope and it couldn't move, no matter what I do... so I had to cancel the job (and lose $15k euros, of course). I have an expensive truck, but I don't know what I need to make my truck more "powerful" and manage better heavy loads :/

For 30 tons and above, you should have at least 500 hp (preferably more), and preferably also 6x4 or 8x4 chassis.
For the most challenging special transports and heavy loads (mountain driving) you should have more than 500 hp and here you need at least 6x4, and preferably 8x4.

[elendil093]

Oh, so it was a recent change, I mean, in the last months... I didn't know it, but thanks for the help, so I will try that setting.. I love the game but I don't know anything about trucks in real life xD anyway, I have common sense and I supposed the most expensive truck could manage the heaviest loads, but seems like that's not always the case.

[Briannospam]

Originally posted by elendil093:

and I supposed the most expensive truck could manage the heaviest loads, but seems like that's not always the case.

It depends on what you mean by the most expensive truck?
Do you mean from a brand, or the most expensive truck in the game.

For example, the most expensive standard truck from DAF is now an XG + with 530 hp engine and 4x2 chassis which unchanged costs € 253,543 ... and I actually doubt that it will still be able to handle the special transport from Stavanger to Oslo with 55 tons of cargo, as it is one of the most challenging special transports where even Volvo and Scania with over 700 hp and 6x4 or 8x4 are forced all the way down to 10-12 kmt at the steepest climbs.
- These very strong Volvo and Scania models are also the strongest and most expensive trucks in the game.

[chancy michael SA]

Originally posted by elendil093:

Originally posted by Briannospam:

All trucks can drive with all loads, even the weakest trucks can drive with the heaviest loads. :)
But of course, the weakest trucks will fall much more in speed up hikes with heavy loads than a strong truck will do.

That's not true... I'm trying to find info about how to adjust my truck, because I accepted a heavy load and there was a little slope and it couldn't move, no matter what I do... so I had to cancel the job (and lose $15k euros, of course). I have an expensive truck, but I don't know what I need to make my truck more "powerful" and manage better heavy loads :/

whe buying a truck u choose truck and ccustomise thats when on your right side when you srart with chasis , engine and transmission there is a graph that pops up showing normal load heavy load hill transverse and suff

[Hallux]

As a tip - prior to accepting the heavy load you should see a graph, on which you have to click an OK button, that tells you how your truck compares to recommended specs for the job.

[Nimir-Raj]

It's not a recent change at all. There have always been certain areas of the map where 4x trucks wouldn't be able to get heavy hauls up a hill, or trucks with weaker engines in general.

That's why the heavy haul pop up appears when you try to take one of these jobs. There'd be no reason for it if all trucks could do it regardless of setup.

[Briannospam]

Originally posted by Mohegan13:

It's not a recent change at all. There have always been certain areas of the map where 4x trucks wouldn't be able to get heavy hauls up a hill, or trucks with weaker engines in general.

That's why the heavy haul pop up appears when you try to take one of these jobs. There'd be no reason for it if all trucks could do it regardless of setup.

It is very possible, yes maybe even highly likely, that the change happened when that graph was introduced in the game?
- I just can not remember when it happened, maybe all the way back to 1.35 or even a little older date?

But until the spring of this year, I have often seen other players claim that all truck models in the game can handle any load in all conditions, and I have therefore myself believed that this was true until another player had doubts as to whether this was still true , and he expressed a willingness to test this.

On my recommendation, he tried so to take Special transport from Stavanger to Oslo with a weak truck ... and he had to give up on a rise as the selected truck could not handle.

[Ryu]

I think the "any truck can pull any load" responses were generally in answer to whether there was restriction on the loads you were allowed to take from the job lists. Most of the time these replies came with the caveat that even though there is no restriction, per se, you may not have a good go of it in an under-powered or under-equipped truck. And with the newer map DLCs having more difficult routes, this is becoming more and more apparent. ;)

[metpei]

Game has a bug for long time as you can take illegal loads on 4x2 chassis truck.

[Briannospam]

Originally posted by metpei:

Game has a bug for long time as you can take illegal loads on 4x2 chassis truck.

Yes, for the sake of realism, there should actually be some restrictions added for what loads we can take depending on the configuration of the truck.

We already have certain load restrictions which depend on the trailer configuration, I am thinking here of the double trailers, which can only be used in a few countries.

[Allinb7own]

if your wanting to not only have a capable truck and a realistic game, then my advise would be to get yourself 8x4 scania with the 730 v8 or the volvo with the 750, then spec in the uprated hubs/axle, you wont far off at that, lets face in the real world theres no way youd be transporting heavy cargo with a 4x2 tractor unit because weight restrictions wouldnt allow it.

[Briannospam]

I do not know how the rules are in other countries?
But according to https://itd.dk/media/3765/total-og-vogntogsvaegte-i-dk-maj-2018.pdf Denmark has the following rules for maximum total weight for 4x2 truck + trailer:
Trailer with 1 axle: 28 tons
Trailer with 2 axles: 38 tons
Trailer with 3 axles: 42 tons
Trailer with 4 axles: 45 tons

Notice that total weight = Truck's own weight + trailers' own weight + the weight of the load

[metpei]

Originally posted by Briannospam:

I do not know how the rules are in other countries?
But according to https://itd.dk/media/3765/total-og-vogntogsvaegte-i-dk-maj-2018.pdf Denmark has the following rules for maximum total weight for 4x2 truck + trailer:
Trailer with 1 axle: 28 tons
Trailer with 2 axles: 38 tons
Trailer with 3 axles: 42 tons
Trailer with 4 axles: 45 tons

Notice that total weight = Truck's own weight + trailers' own weight + the weight of the load

True but I was more concerning about pin weight ("tappipaino" in finnish) of trailer. 4x2 chassis have naturally power axle in back and it's limited to 11.5 tons (includes truck own weight!). Think about lowbed trailers (my favourites) and look how heavy cargo is placed there... not very realistic.
But yes, it will need more from game engine and def files.

In Finland we have this easy chart (unfortunately in finnish, but you figure it out quickly):
https://www.volvotrucks.fi/content/dam/volvo-trucks/markets/finland/trucks/VETOAUTO_juliste_2019.pdf
Akselimassa= axleweight
Kokonaismassa= CGW
Vetävä akseli= power axle
Teliveto= tandem power axles
Suurin sallittu= max allowed
Perävaunu= trailer
Mitta= length
Yhdistelmä/yhdistelmille= truck with trailer
Edit: rigids version
https://www.volvotrucks.fi/content/dam/volvo-trucks/markets/finland/trucks/TASAKUORMA-AUTO_juliste_2