ETS2 and bus simulation

[Jeannot37]

ETS2 and bus simulation
When I saw the bus passenger loading areas, I was happy because I love driving a bus in ETS2.
Unfortunately, despite my research, it is impossible to have the ability to take passengers in these areas. Most of the time, mods are buggy, and never updated with the latest version of ETS2.
Why is it so difficult to model?
The modders create us beautiful buses, but no way to take passengers.
SCS does not plan to make a "bus special" game?


Excuse my English

[RatBag]

They did one in 2007 called Bu Driver http://store.steampowered.com/app/302080/Bus_Driver/

Its from 2007 i got it with a SCS bundle when I got ETS 2

Its not very good though I don`t see driving buses in ET2 would work. Its a truck driving game ( sim)

[TwinShadow]

They have a coach bus DLC (?) on the backburner. I'm not sure if licenses are still an issue at the moment, but the underlying code needs to be updated and re-worked anyway for it to function correctly. I think this is something they're working on in spare time outside of the main features of the base game currently.

[RatBag]

İlk olarak Kitsu 【天狐】 tarafından gönderildi:

They have a coach bus DLC (?) on the backburner. I'm not sure if licenses are still an issue at the moment, but the underlying code needs to be updated and re-worked anyway for it to function correctly. I think this is something they're working on in spare time outside of the main features of the base game currently.

Bus DLC what for ET2? How woul that work?

[Jeannot37]

As it already exists in mod!
You load passengers that you take to another city! Like a truck delivery.
This exists with maps of brazil. But I would like to ride in Europe ....

Bus driver is ugly. OMSI too complex if you do not master German.
And these 2 simus is happening in cities. Not on the road.
In ETS2, there are already beautiful mods, for buses. But no possibility of taking passengers, or so, on older versions of ETS2.
But as soon as there is an update, more possible.

In response to Trucker1975, of course, ETS2 is a truck simulation, but when I see the large number of cars modeled .....

[RatBag]

İlk olarak Jeannot41 tarafından gönderildi:

As it already exists in mod!
You load passengers that you take to another city! Like a truck delivery.
This exists with maps of brazil. But I would like to ride in Europe ....

Bus driver is ugly. OMSI too complex if you do not master German.
And these 2 simus is happening in cities. Not on the road.
In ETS2, there are already beautiful mods, for buses. But no possibility of taking passengers, or so, on older versions of ETS2.
But as soon as there is an update, more possible.

In response to Trucker1975, of course, ETS2 is a truck simulation, but when I see the large number of cars modeled .....

İlk olarak Jeannot41 tarafından gönderildi:

As it already exists in mod!
You load passengers that you take to another city! Like a truck delivery.
This exists with maps of brazil. But I would like to ride in Europe ....

Bus driver is ugly. OMSI too complex if you do not master German.
And these 2 simus is happening in cities. Not on the road.
In ETS2, there are already beautiful mods, for buses. But no possibility of taking passengers, or so, on older versions of ETS2.
But as soon as there is an update, more possible.

In response to Trucker1975, of course, ETS2 is a truck simulation, but when I see the large number of cars modeled .....

I see your point now :) It would be a cool twist to the game but I think a new good game would be better :)

But I like to see ET3 and we can see our AI drivers coming and going at our garages and if we at the same location droping off their own loads... Pass on the road and you can beep each other and talk about wages and just check in on them etc :) Am not talking about like a managerrment game just bit of extra life to the game :) If they could do that in a DLC will that be amazing

[Nono54Fr]

İlk olarak Tucker1975 tarafından gönderildi:

I see your point now :) It would be a cool twist to the game but I think a new good game would be better :)

But I like to see ET3 and we can see our AI drivers coming and going at our garages and if we at the same location droping off their own loads... Pass on the road and you can beep each other and talk about wages and just check in on them etc :) Am not talking about like a managerrment game just bit of extra life to the game :) If they could do that in a DLC will that be amazing

SCS said they will do the opposite with Coach Simulator, from a separate game to a DLC for ETS2. It would be too much hassle to update two games when they have so much in common. And ETS3 will not happen, nor is seeing your AIs on the road.

[RatBag]

İlk olarak Nono54Fr tarafından gönderildi:

İlk olarak Tucker1975 tarafından gönderildi:

I see your point now :) It would be a cool twist to the game but I think a new good game would be better :)

But I like to see ET3 and we can see our AI drivers coming and going at our garages and if we at the same location droping off their own loads... Pass on the road and you can beep each other and talk about wages and just check in on them etc :) Am not talking about like a managerrment game just bit of extra life to the game :) If they could do that in a DLC will that be amazing

SCS said they will do the opposite with Coach Simulator, from a separate game to a DLC for ETS2. It would be too much hassle to update two games when they have so much in common. And ETS3 will not happen, nor is seeing your AIs on the road.

ETS3 will not happen, nor is seeing your AIs on the road.

why not ? it be a cool thing to do and why no ET3? do you know that for a fact?

[Nono54Fr]

İlk olarak Tucker1975 tarafından gönderildi:

İlk olarak Nono54Fr tarafından gönderildi:

SCS said they will do the opposite with Coach Simulator, from a separate game to a DLC for ETS2. It would be too much hassle to update two games when they have so much in common. And ETS3 will not happen, nor is seeing your AIs on the road.

why not ? it be a cool thing to do and why no ET3? do you know that for a fact?

Because it's really hard to do. One issue : the AI cannot drive in the delivery bays, they disappear before reaching the gate. Another issue: the AI are managed through a database and a timer, the game does not track down every truck on the road. And that's only 2 issues on an endless list.

Yes, that's a fact, for a least the next 3-4 years.

[TwinShadow]

İlk olarak Jeannot41 tarafından gönderildi:

OMSI too complex if you do not master German.

Not true. I barely know anything of the German language and I can play OMSI 2 just fine. It has its own issues anyway. The tutorial goes through the basic steps in English and is easy to follow.


In regards to the DLC, it would work just like truck deliveries, only that the coding for the passengers would not require having to back up or anything and would act like a coach bus instead of a truck.

[RatBag]

İlk olarak Nono54Fr tarafından gönderildi:

İlk olarak Tucker1975 tarafından gönderildi:

why not ? it be a cool thing to do and why no ET3? do you know that for a fact?

Because it's really hard to do. One issue : the AI cannot drive in the delivery bays, they disappear before reaching the gate. Another issue: the AI are managed through a database and a timer, the game does not track down every truck on the road. And that's only 2 issues on an endless list.

Yes, that's a fact, for a least the next 3-4 years.

Fact from where ? SCS said that?

[N Quarter]

There is also Fernbus Simulator... if you so dare to put up with slow Development, and poor optimization.

http://store.steampowered.com/app/427100/Fernbus_Simulator/

It's certainly not the greatest, it has it's Pro's and Con's, but it does the Job for a Coach Simulator.

As mentioned before, there was a Bus Simulator SCS were looking into. I first heard about it on a Blog from SCS 4 years ago, so who knows what is going on with it.

A discussion also came up on Fernbus Forums about SCS working on a Bus Sim, but in my opinion, unless it is a completely seperate Game, then ETS2 Coding just doesn't have the required Features that would make a great Bus Sim, such as an interactive Cabin, the Ability to walk around and interact with Passengers and your Coach, to name a few.

Of course if SCS are working on implementing such features into ETS2, then I would be all for it, but I honestly wouldn't see the enjoyment of a Coach Sim, where you are glued to your seat with little to no interaction to what being a Bus Driver is about.

İlk olarak Tucker1975 tarafından gönderildi:

Fact from where ? SCS said that?

I've never seen such a comment from SCS, but I think the point they are making is that ETS2 and ATS are large Projects which are designed to be Developed for the long run. The Core Gameplay as it is, does an alright job, and SCS are always adding new Features.

[Jeannot37]

It's good, guys.
I found a bus and passengers and I travel by bus in ETS2, with loading of passengers and delivery of these, like trucks.

Thank you

[Eaglespy009]

It looks like they are planning to add bus driving to ETS2... I found this in the save file...

 bus_stops: 105
 bus_stops[0]: bus_stop.manchester
 bus_stops[1]: bus_stop.dijon
 bus_stops[2]: bus_stop.bern
 bus_stops[3]: bus_stop.innsbruck
 bus_stops[4]: bus_stop.poznan
 bus_stops[5]: bus_stop.liege
 bus_stops[6]: bus_stop.dusseldorf
 bus_stops[7]: bus_stop.carlisle
 bus_stops[8]: bus_stop.berlin
 bus_stops[9]: bus_stop.uppsala
 bus_stops[10]: bus_stop.linkoping
 bus_stops[11]: bus_stop.luxembourg
 bus_stops[12]: bus_stop.wroclaw
 bus_stops[13]: bus_stop.london
 bus_stops[14]: bus_stop.jonkoping
 bus_stops[15]: bus_stop.bremen
 bus_stops[16]: bus_stop.kobenhavn
 bus_stops[17]: bus_stop.hannover
 bus_stops[18]: bus_stop.frankfurt
 bus_stops[19]: bus_stop.dover
 bus_stops[20]: bus_stop.glasgow
 bus_stops[21]: bus_stop.katowice
 bus_stops[22]: bus_stop.pecs
 bus_stops[23]: bus_stop.rotterdam
 bus_stops[24]: bus_stop.venezia
 bus_stops[25]: bus_stop.sheffield
 bus_stops[26]: bus_stop.magdeburg
 bus_stops[27]: bus_stop.dortmund
 bus_stops[28]: bus_stop.oslo
 bus_stops[29]: bus_stop.malmo
 bus_stops[30]: bus_stop.karlskrona
 bus_stops[31]: bus_stop.paris
 bus_stops[32]: bus_stop.ostrava
 bus_stops[33]: bus_stop.prague
 bus_stops[34]: bus_stop.zurich
 bus_stops[35]: bus_stop.odense
 bus_stops[36]: bus_stop.amsterdam
 bus_stops[37]: bus_stop.stockholm
 bus_stops[38]: bus_stop.aalborg
 bus_stops[39]: bus_stop.edinburgh
 bus_stops[40]: bus_stop.warszawa
 bus_stops[41]: bus_stop.klagenfurt
 bus_stops[42]: bus_stop.liverpool
 bus_stops[43]: bus_stop.birmingham
 bus_stops[44]: bus_stop.torino
 bus_stops[45]: bus_stop.budapest
 bus_stops[46]: bus_stop.goteborg
 bus_stops[47]: bus_stop.wien
 bus_stops[48]: bus_stop.cambridge
 bus_stops[49]: bus_stop.lille
 bus_stops[50]: bus_stop.verona
 bus_stops[51]: bus_stop.koln
 bus_stops[52]: bus_stop.genova
 bus_stops[53]: bus_stop.dresden
 bus_stops[54]: bus_stop.esbjerg
 bus_stops[55]: bus_stop.munchen
 bus_stops[56]: bus_stop.bratislava
 bus_stops[57]: bus_stop.rostock
 bus_stops[58]: bus_stop.milano
 bus_stops[59]: bus_stop.kosice
 bus_stops[60]: bus_stop.calais
 bus_stops[61]: bus_stop.trelleborg
 bus_stops[62]: bus_stop.stavanger
 bus_stops[63]: bus_stop.bialystok
 bus_stops[64]: bus_stop.szeged
 bus_stops[65]: bus_stop.krakow
 bus_stops[66]: bus_stop.stuttgart
 bus_stops[67]: bus_stop.ancona
 bus_stops[68]: bus_stop.clermont
 bus_stops[69]: bus_stop.lehavre
 bus_stops[70]: bus_stop.napoli
 bus_stops[71]: bus_stop.nice
 bus_stops[72]: bus_stop.marseille
 bus_stops[73]: bus_stop.livorno
 bus_stops[74]: bus_stop.sangiovanni
 bus_stops[75]: bus_stop.palermo
 bus_stops[76]: bus_stop.limoges
 bus_stops[77]: bus_stop.catanzaro
 bus_stops[78]: bus_stop.bordeaux
 bus_stops[79]: bus_stop.firenze
 bus_stops[80]: bus_stop.nantes
 bus_stops[81]: bus_stop.cassino
 bus_stops[82]: bus_stop.rennes
 bus_stops[83]: bus_stop.montpellier
 bus_stops[84]: bus_stop.toulouse
 bus_stops[85]: bus_stop.brest
 bus_stops[86]: bus_stop.lemans
 bus_stops[87]: bus_stop.bologna
 bus_stops[88]: bus_stop.roscoff
 bus_stops[89]: bus_stop.larochelle
 bus_stops[90]: bus_stop.daugavpils
 bus_stops[91]: bus_stop.tartu
 bus_stops[92]: bus_stop.kaunas
 bus_stops[93]: bus_stop.rezekne
 bus_stops[94]: bus_stop.helsinki
 bus_stops[95]: bus_stop.turku
 bus_stops[96]: bus_stop.panevezys
 bus_stops[97]: bus_stop.kaliningrad
 bus_stops[98]: bus_stop.parnu
 bus_stops[99]: bus_stop.liepaja
 bus_stops[100]: bus_stop.riga
 bus_stops[101]: bus_stop.tallinn
 bus_stops[102]: bus_stop.kotka
 bus_stops[103]: bus_stop.petersburg
 bus_stops[104]: bus_stop.cagliari
 bus_job_log: _nameless.1f4.cff4.ebe0
 bus_experience_points: 0
 bus_total_distance: 0
 bus_finished_job_count: 0
 bus_cancelled_job_count: 0
 bus_total_passengers: 0
 bus_total_stops: 0
 bus_game_time: 0
 bus_playing_time: 0
}

[TwinShadow]

I believe those values have been known for a while, even on the SCS forums.

[N Quarter]

İlk olarak eaglespy009 🦅 tarafından gönderildi:

It looks like they are planning to add bus driving to ETS2... I found this in the save file...[/code]

It would have been around 2014 or 15 that SCS made a Post regarding a Bus Sim [DLC] would be in the works. No word ever since then.

It would definitely be something many of us would want, but personally, when it comes to competing with actual Bus Sims, SCS don't provide the amount of in depth detail that it's competitors create, such as interaction with Passengers, interaction with the Bus Consoles ect.