Wood Chip Trailers? How about proper "PRODUCT ASSOCIATION" for the Trailers?

[YOGI]

Glad to see the Forestry/ Logging/etc industry in the games finally, but "Seriously" have the "Dev's" ever Driven a Truck...at least RODE in the Forestry Industry? A Wood Chip Trailer is a "Rear Dump Tip Up" unit....that has a Soft Top Canvas and is Usually "Full Height".....NOT! a Gravel Belly Dump Trailer used in construction and mining? As a Matter of Fact...theres some "Wood Chip Trailers' in the Trailer Ownership.....but they are being USED as "Buld Foods?" Most Raw Bulk Food (Vegatable/Fruit) trailers Ive ever seen are Fiberglass "A" Trains units aprox Truck Cab Height, capable of being Filled with Water. as the Product is Usually FRESH from the fields and in Need of "Water Flushing" which is done at the processing plant as a way of Unloading the Product..and Cleaning...by flooding the Trailers with Water and FLOATING the Product out most times?
ETS2/ATS Badly Needs to "HIRE" an old "Reitred" trucker (like me)....that has SEEN and Witnessed how things are done and can make "Recommendations" before "Stupid" things like this ruin a Great Game..(sigh)....Most times its the "Freight Association" with available in the games that drives people crazy! Are you paying attention about this game Dev's? (grrrr).... (BTW..theres a LOTTA CUTSCENES that could be put into place on the Loading/Unloading of Products instead of a "DUMB TIMER" to show the loading/unloading of trailers?)

[Viss Valdyr]

And yet noone else seem to care...

[XBL Laberbacke]

LOTTA CUTSCENES cost LOTTA money.

引用自 Viss Valdyr：

And yet noone else seem to care...

Most people see it as a game, and rightfully so. And then there's these folks.

[Karlia]

Blender is free.... knock yourself out....and btw im a retired truckie, it dont bother me, why? because ETS and ATS are simulators not emulators.. the only thing that anoys me about the game is the ppl that think it is a Euro Road Transport Law emulator...
There are lots of things that could be done better from a truckies or a purists point of view and can be done by the end user by editing and modding ...Enjoy it for what it is instead of criticizing it for what it isnt..

[pieperjohanns]

引用自 mattdilllon：

"Seriously"

You know that your quotation marks are giving your words the opposite meaning, right? That makes the text kind of funny.

Anyway, I think you might be mixing up European and US practices, but I agree that the cargo system needs improvements. No one would haul a load of sand across Europe, for example. The tipper trailer is only used for short hauls in real life.

[YOGI]

引用自 XBL Laberbacke：

LOTTA CUTSCENES cost LOTTA money.

引用自 Viss Valdyr：

And yet noone else seem to care...

Most people see it as a game, and rightfully so. And then there's these folks.

Yes...i see it as a game...but HOW hard can it be...to at least to try and get it Right? Come on...its Kinda like PULLING a 48' Reefer Trailer with a Volkswagon Beetle with a Fifth Wheel welded to the Roof? Just plain Silly and ruins the Immersion of the game?

[YOGI]

引用自 pieperjohanns：

引用自 mattdilllon：

"Seriously"

You know that your quotation marks are giving your words the opposite meaning, right? That makes the text kind of funny.

Anyway, I think you might be mixing up European and US practices, but I agree that the cargo system needs improvements. No one would haul a load of sand across Europe, for example. The tipper trailer is only used for short hauls in real life.

It meant to be SILLY as the Whole thing of Using a Belly Dump Gravel Trailer to "HAUL" wood chips in is "Hilarious?" Think about it,,theres No Way you can Put 80,000lbs of wood chips into a Gravel trailer..Im quit sure even a Person has has held a handful of Wood shavings in one hand and in the Other hand a Handfull of Rocks...can tell the Signifecant difference in weight? (HAHAHAHA)....

[YOGI]

引用自 pieperjohanns：

引用自 mattdilllon：

"Seriously"

You know that your quotation marks are giving your words the opposite meaning, right? That makes the text kind of funny.

Anyway, I think you might be mixing up European and US practices, but I agree that the cargo system needs improvements. No one would haul a load of sand across Europe, for example. The tipper trailer is only used for short hauls in real life.

YEP. the Quatations..are supposed to reflec how "SILLY" the whole trailer association to Loads is right at this Moment in both ETS2/ATS..like I said...and "FOOL" can do simple research...to see what kind of Comparable LOADS are loaded into kinds of trailers? Whats Next...picking Up Gravel with a roll top Trailer, that is supposed to be used in the BULK WOOD CHIP industry in the Forestry industry? (sigh).....

[YOGI]

引用自 Viss Valdyr：

And yet noone else seem to care...

Give it time..a few will see the absolute lack of attention to 'Detail' some parts of this game have...while other parts are overdone to the extent that a few people need to be re-assigned to dif departments in the Game Studio...as it aparant to me they have to Many People concentrating on Single things that only Complicate a good game?

[Reese]

Part of the issue you are experiencing in the lack of industries in the game. The game, along with those before it, were made merely to transport goods from a to b. That's it. What you were hauling wasn't even important because all you could see was the trailer. For the first time in SCS history, they have started to introduce industries in the latest ATS DLC, Oregon. The only comparable thing currently in ETS2 is special transport and/or trucks from the factories to dealers.

You are expecting way too much of a game. This is a simulator, not reality. But above that, it's a game. And games are different from reality in many different ways. The game has, overtime, gotten better and only stands to get better as more time goes on.


Edit: Also, some developers have driven a truck. Not professionally, but on closed courses provided by Scania's test track location. They've been in the real trucks and have spent time around the trailers that get pulled by them. However, hiring a retired driver isn't worth much to them as your retired experience does not reflect current experience. If they were to hire a driver, it'd be someone with recent experience or actively trucking daily. [This is merely an assumption, but it makes more sense than retired hire.]

[Karlia]

引用自 Reese's Cup Nyaapasu~：

If they were to hire a driver, it'd be someone with recent experience or actively trucking daily.

laffs
Only new tech on trucks is colision avoidance interfaces.. why because numbnut kids who txt and gopro more than drive are at the wheel of killing machines... Just because someone is retired does not make them inferior..

[YOGI]

引用自 KMC：

引用自 Reese's Cup Nyaapasu~：

If they were to hire a driver, it'd be someone with recent experience or actively trucking daily.

laffs
Only new tech on trucks is colision avoidance interfaces.. why because numbnut kids who txt and gopro more than drive are at the wheel of killing machines... Just because someone is retired does not make them inferior..

YEAH and thanks..the WHOLE point Im trying to MAKE here...is Experienced Drivers can Lend Credibility to a game simulation...in the same way as Real Life Soldiers are sometimes "Chosen" as Game testers? Point is...to "SELL" a Credible Product...(all be it just a game?) you must First find Credible Information for it....that is based on factual Information? Once the Information is Digetsted by a producer...and made to COMPLEMENT their Product...a vast improvement in Product/Sales Usually occurs(yep..just another DUMASS trucker here? BTW...you CANT drive forever...and a FEW YEARS of University sure as hell dont HURT either for Marketing/Sales experince once your to OLD AND BLIND to drive anymore? (dudes were LINED UP at my doorstep once I retired trying to get me into their Marketing/Sales in the trucking IND. as its ALL relevant)

[racdavies]

引用自 mattdilllon：

引用自 XBL Laberbacke：

LOTTA CUTSCENES cost LOTTA money.


Most people see it as a game, and rightfully so. And then there's these folks.

Yes...i see it as a game...but HOW hard can it be...to at least to try and get it Right? Come on...its Kinda like PULLING a 48' Reefer Trailer with a Volkswagon Beetle with a Fifth Wheel welded to the Roof? Just plain Silly and ruins the Immersion of the game?

Sorry but if you know so much why are you not working for Scs.

[Karlia]

引用自 racdavies：

Sorry but if you know so much why are you not working for Scs.

Because Reese said Matt was to old and retired to work for them ;p

[Reese]

Just the industry is always changing. What was true 5 years ago may no longer be true, which is of a lot of things. Stuff that SCS can research on their own or will be brought up my truck manufacturers during the licensing process.

[YOGI]

YEP...Retired an USED to Hays/Western Star/International 4060 COE Trucks(drove that one with a 5&4 ♥♥♥♥♥♥ and NO turbo (lol) when you get to a HILL of any kind...bring a good book back then...as it took a lONG TIME (lotsa shifitng) to PUSH to old bugger over it...LOL) BUT...being Legally Blind and Opinionated..>Im real sure working with "KIDDIES" would not work real well for me? I am trying ot make a piont here about Marketing?(yep Unversity after truckig paid off guys)....IF scs would FIND people semi-retired from trucking..then may get a Bigger market share of the Simulation world?