A Great game BUT.... ETS3 Wishlist

[vonknauss]

I've been playing ETS and ETS2 for many many years and I love it BUT, I'm starting to think it soon has reached the limits and that ETS3 is the way to go now instead of further developing and expanding ETS2. When I say this I mainly want the game experience to be more "life like" and realistic outside of the driving itself. The handling of the trucks and controller support is great in ETS2 but game features like realistic company economy, dynamic damage, drive/rest schedules, Service intervals, (semi) open world with possibility to walk outside the truck to refuel, inspect and connect trailers etc.

Well the wishlist can be made from here to the moon but I think many many of you guys agree on some of the things I mentioned above and that ETS2 is turning more into a milk cow for the devs more than actually being improved "game play wise" with every expansion.

Thanks for the word, and keep on truckin

[Nono54Fr]

There won't be any ETS3. The licenses for the trucks will expire when SCS stop developing ETS2 and neither SCS or the manufacturers want to go through the licensing process again.

Also, it seems that SCS got it smarter with the addition of the trailers' ownership and modifying deeply ingrained functionnalities, like seeing the drivers on the map, which was a big no-no for the past 5 years. Hence long asked features (multi-drop, real eco management, ...) might be added to ETS2 sooner than later.

But ETS3 is a no-go.

[vonknauss]

Originally posted by Nono54Fr:

There won't be any ETS3. The licenses for the trucks will expire when SCS stop developing ETS2 and neither SCS or the manufacturers want to go through the licensing process again.

Also, it seems that SCS got it smarter with the addition of the trailers' ownership and modifying deeply ingrained functionnalities, like seeing the drivers on the map, which was a big no-no for the past 5 years. Hence long asked features (multi-drop, real eco management, ...) might be added to ETS2 sooner than later.

But ETS3 is a no-go.

Well if SCS won't or don't want to get the licenses someone else will, of that I'm 100% sure. I can not imagine any truck manufacturer not wanting their products exposed in the largest growing entertainment business in the world. Besides, a truck sim game, or any game can perfectly fine be developed without any licensed stuff whatsoever as long as there is mod support. I'm talking about pure gameplay mechanics and features, not that Scania or Volvo have put their signature on it.

[gallagher4005]

People on this forum should understand 1 thing:
NO ETS3!
SCS has not said anything about it and most likely will not say anything about it.

It does not matter what you think, it's not going to happen!

[Mike]

ETS2 will turn into ETS3 without being called like that over the years
Compared to where it began it is a ETS2.5 already ;)

SCS doesn't want to publish new games all the time to make the big money (unlike others) they prefer developing the game and release reasonably priced DLCs

[uni790]

Originally posted by gallagher4005:

People on this forum should understand 1 thing:
NO ETS3!
SCS has not said anything about it and most likely will not say anything about it.

It does not matter what you think, it's not going to happen!

Well, it will have to someday, when the engine reaches it's limits, and it's cheaper and easier to make a whole new game rather then trying to rebuild the engine in an existing product. Now that could be ages away, but it will happen someday.

[Nono54Fr]

Originally posted by Vonknauss72:

Well if SCS won't or don't want to get the licenses someone else will, of that I'm 100% sure. I can not imagine any truck manufacturer not wanting their products exposed in the largest growing entertainment business in the world.

Actually, no. SCS couldn't do a sim without reproducing known trucks and their unmistakable traits, and the manufacturers didn't want to allow a sim, where their trucks could be unmistakably recognized, without their names and logos.

Originally posted by Vonknauss72:

Besides, a truck sim game, or any game can perfectly fine be developed without any licensed stuff whatsoever as long as there is mod support. I'm talking about pure gameplay mechanics and features, not that Scania or Volvo have put their signature on it.

That's how SCS was almost sued to hell by one of these manufacturers and avoided it by paying a huge price for the licensing fees of said manufacturer.

[Madkine]

Originally posted by uni790:

Well, it will have to someday, when the engine reaches it's limits, and it's cheaper and easier to make a whole new game rather then trying to rebuild the engine in an existing product. Now that could be ages away, but it will happen someday.

It might not be the easier way, but it is the way SCS is doing it. As an example, the move from DX9 to DX11 in 1.36.

[vonknauss]

Originally posted by uni790:

Originally posted by gallagher4005:

People on this forum should understand 1 thing:
NO ETS3!
SCS has not said anything about it and most likely will not say anything about it.

It does not matter what you think, it's not going to happen!

Well, it will have to someday, when the engine reaches it's limits, and it's cheaper and easier to make a whole new game rather then trying to rebuild the engine in an existing product. Now that could be ages away, but it will happen someday.

was gonna write the same thing. It's inevitable and the game is already heavily outdated both engine wise and graphically. But do not misunderstand me now, it's still the best truck sim around by miles and will probably be so until ETS3 or a serious rival hits the market.

[fender178]

Originally posted by uni790:

Originally posted by gallagher4005:

People on this forum should understand 1 thing:
NO ETS3!
SCS has not said anything about it and most likely will not say anything about it.

It does not matter what you think, it's not going to happen!

Well, it will have to someday, when the engine reaches it's limits, and it's cheaper and easier to make a whole new game rather then trying to rebuild the engine in an existing product. Now that could be ages away, but it will happen someday.

Not in this case it would't be easier because they would have to implement a lot of their work that they put into ETS2 as far as the maps go and it wouldn't be cheaper either because of the extra work needed. Making whole new game would be a lot more expensive than you realize.

Originally posted by Vonknauss72:

I've been playing ETS and ETS2 for many many years and I love it BUT, I'm starting to think it soon has reached the limits and that ETS3 is the way to go now instead of further developing and expanding ETS2. When I say this I mainly want the game experience to be more "life like" and realistic outside of the driving itself. The handling of the trucks and controller support is great in ETS2 but game features like realistic company economy, dynamic damage, drive/rest schedules, Service intervals, (semi) open world with possibility to walk outside the truck to refuel, inspect and connect trailers etc.

Well the wishlist can be made from here to the moon but I think many many of you guys agree on some of the things I mentioned above and that ETS2 is turning more into a milk cow for the devs more than actually being improved "game play wise" with every expansion.

Thanks for the word, and keep on truckin

Yeah ETS3 isn't going to happen because they would have to implement everything that they put into ETS2 which is a lot of work. And I don't think that SCS want to do that.

[Vellari]

They've all but said it, it's a "game as a service" now except there is no montly fee, just the DLC's.

Atleast as far as I'm aware, this might be the oldest non-mmo game still being actively developed.

[Tombe0]

Originally posted by uni790:

Originally posted by gallagher4005:

People on this forum should understand 1 thing:
NO ETS3!
SCS has not said anything about it and most likely will not say anything about it.

It does not matter what you think, it's not going to happen!

Well, it will have to someday, when the engine reaches it's limits, and it's cheaper and easier to make a whole new game rather then trying to rebuild the engine in an existing product. Now that could be ages away, but it will happen someday.

You realise the engine of ETS2 (and ATS) has already been partially rewritten atleast once and a second one is coming out with 1.36. The first one was addition of 64bit executables.

[vonknauss]

Originally posted by Tombe0:

Originally posted by uni790:

Well, it will have to someday, when the engine reaches it's limits, and it's cheaper and easier to make a whole new game rather then trying to rebuild the engine in an existing product. Now that could be ages away, but it will happen someday.

You realise the engine of ETS2 (and ATS) has already been partially rewritten atleast once and a second one is coming out with 1.36. The first one was addition of 64bit executables.

You can't make a Ferrari out of a Fiat no matter how big a engine you fit. The game will eventually stop being developed and supported. The day a another serious developer of sim games picks up the trucking scene SCS and ETS is just history unless they get this in time them selves. A game can just survive soo long on old and true fans. In fact I think the sole reason it's been so hugely popular over many years is that there's simply no competition

[Dyro_B]

Every engine has its max and graphics eventually will be too much out-dated. Going to a new engine will only go ''easy'' when old and new engine are similair. Shame if it's true that SCS won't release an ETS 3 in the future. Some other company def will when this engine has reached its max. A massive overhaul with or without transfer to new engine won't be on the schedule either, because that would mean no money will be earned on the people who own the game already.

Anyway I'm def not interested in something like semi-open world. I don't need the option to get out a truck, I want the best drive simulation on the road. Like it offers now. What I do miss however are seasons. I know there are mods for it but I rather have it officially ingame, either automatic each 3 months or by an official menu option in what season you want to play in. I know they've said in the past that automatic isn't possible with this engine. Still curious though, any news about it that someone knows?

[fender178]

Originally posted by Vonknauss72:

Originally posted by Tombe0:

You realise the engine of ETS2 (and ATS) has already been partially rewritten atleast once and a second one is coming out with 1.36. The first one was addition of 64bit executables.

You can't make a Ferrari out of a Fiat no matter how big a engine you fit. The game will eventually stop being developed and supported. The day a another serious developer of sim games picks up the trucking scene SCS and ETS is just history unless they get this in time them selves. A game can just survive soo long on old and true fans. In fact I think the sole reason it's been so hugely popular over many years is that there's simply no competition

SCS was the first to make a game like this and look how far they came with both ETS2 and ATS the bar is set pretty high and if you look at On the Road which is based around Germany that game has a long ways to go to reach SCS's level. Also it is possible that very few devs want to make a Trucking Sim hence another reason for no competition.

[tarc]

Originally posted by Vonknauss72:

You can't make a Ferrari out of a Fiat no matter how big a engine you fit.

You can't make an analogy of real-life manufacturing to code, bro, the physical limitations of cars do not apply to 1's & 0's.. They could re-code most everything from the ground up, push it out as 2.0, and as long as our progress remains intact it will still be old familiar ETS2 to all of us.