Freight without trailer

[rb58nl]

If I may make a suggestion towards game play. In the MODS I came accros "Tandem Combinations". Why are these trucks not standard in the game? This also creates a new way of picking up and transporting freight. Ex. I bought a truck, transformed it into a tandem/box chassis, select between tanker or box.

This brings me to my next point; since you already got a big box on the back of your truck, picking up a trailer is not really needed because you can use your truck or loading capacity already.

The whole process of selecting freight should stay the same, also the white box around the trailer should remain but instead of picking up a trailer, back your truck into the white box, press "T" to load your truck/freight, drive to your destination (no trailer) and unload into the white box there (also pressing "T". Job done.

Because you would carry less load, the money earned can be less but it will creates a variety in trucks you can buy for your company.

[Nono54Fr]

The tandems are not standard because the game does not work that way.

When you pick a job from a company yard, the trailer get a paintjob linked to that job or to that company, example: you won't deliver a Total tanker to a Shell Oil gas station. A tandem truck without any job can be bland but a paintjob will not be magically applied when you pick a job, and the paintjob will not be magically removed once the job is finished.

SCS already addressed that issue in 2014 with this design http://blog.scssoft.com/2014/09/the-first-news-about-design.html, aka a tandem, both flatbed, both bland but both able to pick up cargobox or tank with a paintjob from two companies.

That design is not implemented yet because it doesn't comply with how the game is currently limited to 1 truck = 1 trailer = 1 job = 1 paintjob, whereas this new design would change it to 1 truck = 2 trailers = 2 jobs = 2 paintjobs.

[rb58nl]

Hi, I really appreciate your reaction, it does confirm that you (developement team) are reading stuff people leave behind. I just think that players like to see more in the game. Why do not have a survey among players (a bit of marketing)?

Okay, so HOW does the game work because in my mind you travel from point A to point B, with or without freight/cargo. Putting in different types of trucks (other than a trailer+tractor combi) doesn't effect the travel from point A to point B. It will still be 1 truck=1 job, the only difference is you can pick a job with or without a trailer.

I quite like the look of a tandem combination (ATS does allow you to pick up a road train) and I thought that it was quite nice to drive around in a (curtain rail) truck without a trailer. My idea will ONLY give a purpose of the travel from point A to point B without having picking up a trailer. In real life you DO see these type of trucks on the road. Think of the applications of this when it is standard in the game.

You get to buy and customize different types of trucks into your fleet for starters.

You may get the possibility to pick up the container only with a flatbed truck. This container can be picked up from places like harbours,container terminals or train yards. This alone creates already a new pick-up point within the game. (I'm thinking big).

The box/curtain rail truck could pick up freight/cargo without or without a trailer. This application will change the look of your truck but not the travel from point A to point B (the 1 truck=1 job philosophy)

The fact that people creating tandem MODS is saying that there is a need of a variety of trucks in the game. Also trucks like that "Scania T", Volvo (VNL) also has trucks looking like that.

[pieperjohanns]

Originally posted by rb58nl:

Hi, I really appreciate your reaction, it does confirm that you (developement team) are reading stuff people leave behind.

This is just a Steam forum, the developers are not here.

Originally posted by rb58nl:

Okay, so HOW does the game work
It will still be 1 truck=1 job, the only difference is you can pick a job with or without a trailer.

Currently you are picking a trailer (or a double trailer combination) when you choose a job. Changing the code in such a way that the game allows you to pick a load without trailer is apparently difficult.

[Jackrabbit_V6/ RSProduxx]

i imagine it could work if "owning trailers" would be a thing as well... you´d either buy a tractor like we have now, or an "empty" tandem train which can pick up containers at the loading centres... so depending on what you are driving, the game spawns either a saddle trailer or swap body containers... (will be hell of fun to pick those up :) )

that way the "problem" with company textures i solved as well, since your truck won´t have a fixed box with textures either...

but as mentioned, in any case it would require quite some redesign of the job system... but with the double trailers, especially the american ones, they at least have the basics for the tandemtrailers in the game now... the rest is some programming, new chassis and container models...

chances might have increased a little i guess :)

i won´t hold my breath, but i´d love to have it

[PERO]

Owning a trailer is already possible, search for TEDIT in the SCS forum.

Note: it does not support double trailers yet, according to the author, he is slowly updating the program.

[chris.boney]

are you talking about the bdf tandem mod from the workshop?
great mod.
there were a couple of mods/uploads of a bdf invisible trailer mod, where the cargo trailer that you pick up at the depot's are invisible, thus leaving only the 1 box on your bdf truck.
but alas,, All invisible mods seem to crash the game, the bdf one included.

must be old/outdated mods that worked on previous versions. cant seem to find any working versions of any invisible mods.

but yeah, it be great to have a box/tandem truck in the vanilla game too & with the option to use either 1 or 2 boxes.

[Jackrabbit_V6/ RSProduxx]

Originally posted by PERO:

Owning a trailer is already possible, search for TEDIT in the SCS forum.

Note: it does not support double trailers yet, according to the author, he is slowly updating the program.

sorry, but i think this thread is about OFFICIAL implementation of certain mechanics, not mods

at least that´s what i was talking about...

[chris.boney]

this type of addon would be cool in the vanilla game.

BDF Tandem Truck Pack -
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=620915774&searchtext=BDF+TRUCK+AND+TRAILER

Big Pack BDF Trailers v1.1 -
includes loose crate cargo, which can be loaded into the back of any vehicle, be it a normal truck, a car, van, suv or indeed a single box bdf/tandem truck.
http://ets2downloads.com/category/trailers

Only Standalone Trailers
https://ets2.lt/en/?s=standalone+trailers
just in case you want to have a couple of dedicated custom trailer profiles of any given mod setup.

great mods.
thx very much to all modders & their hard work .
& cheers OP for the thread.
;)