TrackIR or Tobii Eye Tracker 4C

[Starbucaneer]

Hello Fellow Truckers!
I have watched many Youtubers driving their trucks with head tracking with quite a bit of envy. I have wanted a trackIR so I can do the same for ages. I am now going to be in a position to afford one but while researching I discovered an alternative:-

Tobii Eye Tracker 4C, Next Generation PC Gaming Eye Tracking

This tracks head AND eye movement and supports several other games I own, most importantly ETS2.
I thought I would ask the ETS2 community if anybody has one of these. If you do what are your thoughts regarding these.

Cheers

Starby

[Xyzan]

I own TrackIR and it is fantastic. You can also check Freetrack (only 32bit) and FaceTrackNoIR - those are open source programs that do the same - works a bit worse, in my opinion, however they can do the trick for much cheaper price.

[Jin666]

Tobii Eye tracker is a good hardware but not it's software especially it's infinite screen extension are finicky and games that are compatible are limited too. You also need to install vJoy to play ETS2 or ATS with it and vJoy does not work well with other plugins like the FFB plugin. Then there are issues on USB3.0 to be precise Asmedia USB3.0.
TrackIR is definitely better than Tobii 4c or you could try out facetracknoIR with a cheap logitech webcam combination just to acclimatise the game feel before upgradig to TrackIR ot Tobii

[Eon]

Or Trackhat, which is what i use.

[Starbucaneer]

Thank you very much for taking the time to reply, Xyzan, Jin666 and Eon.

Xyzan, I like the idea of TrackIR as its widely known and used, drawback is its more expensive and I have to order it from USA, I live in the UK. Always worried about items travelling so far being damaged in transit.

I hadn't heard of Freetrack (I will look into that one) I had read about FaceTrackNoIR but that seemed to be fiddly and troublesome to set up. Also needing updating?.

Jin666 those are very useful points to know. I know the supported games are limited but didnt know it needed Vjoy as well as infinite screen extension. My PC has USB2.0 and 3.0 sockets... Hmmm I might do as you suggest and try facetracknoIR first.

Eon I have not heard of Trackhat, I will look into that too.

Thanks again Folks.

[orb]

Starbucaneer eredeti hozzászólása:

I had read about FaceTrackNoIR but that seemed to be fiddly and troublesome to set up.

You install the software, then choose the plug-in with which you want to track your head (e.g. face tracker, point tracker), if you use point tracker you measure distances between points (light sources) and put them in the app, set the sensitivity and curves and a button for centering, and don't forget to start tracking before launching the game.

As for the hardware, you can get a kit or set it all yourself. As far as I know face tracking requires good lighting of your face, point tracking on the other hand requires a dark room or no other light points of the same size and intensity behind you.
For point tracker you can get a ready to use kit or you'll need to replace the IR filter with visible light filter on the camera, get 3 IR diodes, a solid wire pair cable, and a battery powering them - people make sets ready to use you can obtain for not much more than if you wanted to build yourself, so if you don't want any soldering, disassembling and assembling just order a ready kit from someone selling them.

[Starbucaneer]

Thanks Orb that is useful info. I will investigate further

[Jin666]

For Freetrack, you can refer link below (guides\purchase)
http://www.delanengineering.com/

For FacetrackNoIR, its not that hard to setup and fine tune once you understand the principle and basics behind it..

link below for reference and guides
https://sourceforge.net/p/facetracknoir/discussion/

I've tried TrackIR, Facetrack, Tobii eye sentry and facetracknoIR. TrackIR is tops but quite a sum to part with it.

Tobii...skip this

Facetrack (Delan clip) like TrackIR, is not bad but like TrackIR ,I do not like the idea of wearing a cap/wires dangling. Personally I am more comfortable and prefer facetracknoIR because there is no need for any additional equipments that you have to attached to physically , just a simple software with a decent webcam that tracks your face movement. You still have to pay a small fee for the software but that's about it.

[Xyzan]

Starbucaneer eredeti hozzászólása:

Xyzan, I like the idea of TrackIR as its widely known and used, drawback is its more expensive and I have to order it from USA, I live in the UK. Always worried about items travelling so far being damaged in transit.

I live in Poland, I did order it from US - it costed a lot more than originaly (delivery and taxes), however UPS is doing their job - no damage at all. I used earlier FreeTrack, however it does not work in 64bit version (so, no ATS), so I skipped and switched to FaceTrackNoIR... I wasn't pleased. Maybe my tracking hat wasn't good enough, but it looses tracking very often, rotating your head 180* while on motorway driving 90km/h always caused problems... I decided to buy TrackIR then... And I'm very pleased of it... It works perfect, if it looses focus, it recovers with just head movement... It is much more precise... In my opinion, best of those three... for a prize, of course.

[Starbucaneer]

@Jin666 and Xyzan, thank you both for giving me even more help advice and info.

I am looking into all these options now

I will probably try the facetracknoIR to start with although I like the sound of TrackHat too as the next option, but the clip not the hat.

Seems you have to pay for facetracknoIR now.... I don't mind supporting their hard work BUT I am always wary of paying online to anything other than big companies like Amazon, Steam etc. who are trusted sites.

Shame there isn't a demo option so I can try it out.

[Alex]

Hi!

We released an update for GameHub that adds support for ATS and fixes issues with ETS2 and vjoy configuration. It also adds support for extended view with head tracking in ETS2.
https://help.tobii.com/hc/en-us/articles/360001652874-Tobii-Game-Hub-1-5-Release-notes

[Stringbean]

I just purchased TrackIR today here in the UK. Natural Point, the makers of TrackIR, list only two Online official UK distributors. One of them is here which is where I just ordered mine. Next day delivery, so arriving tomorrow. can't wait.

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