In a character creator (the character you want to make),

[Game Cooker US Rocks VR]

Is there really an issue with adding a boob and butt slider? The only way for big butt and boob is to make the character fat.
I have known many females who were thin and had large boobs. It's not anti-human at all.

I tolerated the first game as I thought it had very ugly characters on the female side for the most part. But I thought this game would go further with customization on the whole body in this game. It does well but misses two very important parts on the female body, butt and boobs. I didn't see a height slider either. Maybe I missed these things. I don't know.

But as an adult I will not feel ashamed to want to make an attractive female character. I would also make a very handsome/strong male character if I was making a male character. So no bias on that issue.

I have no hate towards people who like ugly or unattractive females but calling people names because they like big butts and boobs is very insensitive and disingenuous. Doing so, in my opinion, is anti-human as most societies accept there is ugly and beauty in reality.

I understand each culture has its preferences but in free societies, anything is excepted.

People are only name calling because they know this game will sell. Otheriwse, this game would crash too for not adding a full character creator. There are enough people who care about it. That is a fact.

Anyway, throw stones now. Or ban my comment. I am free to state my concerns.

Fire away.....

[LoCaD]

Originally posted by zmanbuilder:

It most likely has to do with armor mapping, basically the devs did not want to make different armor for varying boob and butt sizes.

I understand that so this time I really hope there is gonna be zero weapon & armor clipping.
I am sure Capcoms Premium Product Monster Hunter can handle what the top F2P Gacha games can do today.
Characters with no clipping of any attachements to their models.
You can either animate the objects movement alongside the movement of your character model or use safety frames during any movement.

[Game Cooker US Rocks VR]

Originally posted by Ethan Hunt:

Here are my thoughts on this. There is another thread running for this exact same issue where people are battling over it as if their life depends on it. To me, this is an absolutely insignificant issue. If was paying $70, I would be more worried about the game's performance than a "boob/butt slider" being present. I create my character and the first thing I want to do is hunt some monsters. If there are glaring issues that prevent me from having a proper experience doing that, then I'm extremely concerned.

I suppose it's what everyone prioritizes in their gaming experience. If character creation is at the top of the list for you, then I can understand your concern in not having extremely deep customization. If you're on PC, you have alternatives like having mods which can negate such issues. But if we have bigger issues like the performance being absolutely garbage, like you can see most threads on this board echoing, then what's the use of requesting a boob/butt slider when the game itself isn't properly optimized to be played. Assuming you do want to play the game and hunt monsters.

Monster Hunter World/Iceborne didn't have this feature either but there were still really creative people who made beautiful looking characters.

Sliders are not that big of a deal. Only three are missing out of dozens. Boob, butt and height. Isn't that a coincidence since most modern games leave at least two of them out these days. Some games have silders but essentially do nothing. But I digress.

Monster Hunter Worlds was not the best game and it the characters were not beautiful. At least I didn't think the character creator was all that great. Just because there are a lot of options to do stuff, if they don't do what you want, then it kind of useless.

Like when games say they have good character creators but you can really make a character from scratch. You have models that you first have to choose from. Some games like Black Desert have that but you can really morph the template characters a lot where you can actually make them how you want. Thin or fat. Tall or short. No BBB or Big BBB. Of course some characters have limits because of the class. But you get my point.

I am tired of hearing excuses about performance. Game companies and developers need to hire engineers that know how to code games from the start. And if this is the same developers that made MHW then making this one shouldn't be a new experience.

You can see experience in the developers like Machine Games whether you like them or not. They usually make games that work fairly well from the start. It's ok to have some bugs here and there because there are so many iterations of PCs that are playing a game.

The engine matters too I understand. What I never understand is why from the start of developing a game , especially ones like this that a company doesn't pick an engine that they know they will have an easy time with. Yes I know there are various reasons and nuance.
The excuse I always hear is "it was someone else's fault". Passing the buck.

We will keep getting these games broken because gamers keep buying broken games. They know FOMO controls the consumer. It is a shame.

Yada, yada, yada. :)

[Renée Renard]

Use mods when they appear as that will make you happy, don't need weird people ruining things for the rest. Majority of the time when people are given control over boob and butt sliders they go overboard because they tend to want it for the wrong reasons, wanting to impress other weirdos / Use with nude mods / To get a bit of sexual satisfaction / to look 'sexy' in a game its not needed in. Its a monster hunting game and the character creation is good already, you can make attractive characters and sometimes they look sexy to a degree but you don't need to look like the smithy just because you are maybe obsessed with big assets on a woman.

And for gods sake big tits and butt does not mean attractive unless you are a undeveloped shallow simpleton. I swear most times I see people creating characters with oversized body parts they do a terrible job with the face and other areas of the body which defeats the point of the end result which they wanted to be 'attractive'.

Its not a needed feature, its a feature thats often abused if it not limited and I do not want oversized women jiggling their tits in my face while I'm trying to enjoy the game. I don't mind if it was a slight increase from the current but thats all, just can't trust the internet to be reasonable with total control. Just to be clear here, I'm not totally against it, at least a chest slider but it has to limited. Wasn't intending to offend either but there is more to beauty and attractiveness than big tits and ass.

We all have our preferences but you kind of made it seem like the character creation sucks and you can't make anything attractive without a boob and butt slider, which just isn't the case. Having just looked at some of your videos I can already tell you are the sort to go overboard on the sliders, your view on a healthy size really isn't correct, the size you'd go for is bare-able for a woman, not commonly natural and brings a good deal of backpain for most with such size.

I know we are playing games and its fantasy and all that but having that sort of size in a ton of the playerbase (which is what happens when people get control as there are many men like yourself who play women and go big) is just off putting for anyone that isn't into oversized breasts.

[Rhila]

I wouldn't mind if they wanted to add these sliders for people who want them, and more sliders for height, body size and shape.

But why do you think women who don't have big breasts are ugly? The face and the body shape are the most important in the scale of beauty.

[Alkirin]

There are games for that. This isn't one of them.

[LukeBu]

Do not worry, there will be armor sets that have... enhancements.

[Scyris]

Originally posted by zmanbuilder:

It most likely has to do with armor mapping, basically the devs did not want to make different armor for varying boob and butt sizes.

Its actually not that hard, they just add a "morph" area where the texture can expand or contract to fit the body, games have been doing it for decades. Granted some of the textures DO look weird if you give a female char TOO big of a set as they get stretched too far, but if you keep it somewhat reasonable its honestly not hard for them to put in. It also does not require a diff model for each setting on the slider, just the one with the morph thing set for the chest area, so it'd be no diff than the armor now, same thing just with a morph added so it can stretch. I mean 7 days to die is a crappy indie game thats like 12 years old and even it has this feature. There are games even older than that which have it like ever quest etc. Its not hard to put in, they just choose not to is all. Lots of people do want some body sliders in MH Games though, its been a requested thing for a long time in the series.

Originally posted by Alkirin:

There are games for that. This isn't one of them.

Why do you go right to thinking something that is most likely sexual? that shows more about you than the person who posted this. Women irl are all shapes and sizes, people just want to be able to change it to their preferences. I mean the game is all about looking good while kicking giant monster arse in the first place, and this would help with the looking good part.

[Scyris]

Originally posted by Renée Renard:

Use mods when they appear as that will make you happy, don't need weird people ruining things for the rest. Majority of the time when people are given control over boob and butt sliders they go overboard because they tend to want it for the wrong reasons, wanting to impress other weirdos / Use with nude mods / To get a bit of sexual satisfaction / to look 'sexy' in a game its not needed in. Its a monster hunting game and the character creation is good already, you can make attractive characters and sometimes they look sexy to a degree but you don't need to look like the smithy just because you are maybe obsessed with big assets on a woman.

And for gods sake big tits and butt does not mean attractive unless you are a undeveloped shallow simpleton. I swear most times I see people creating characters with oversized body parts they do a terrible job with the face and other areas of the body which defeats the point of the end result which they wanted to be 'attractive'.

Its not a needed feature, its a feature thats often abused if it not limited and I do not want oversized women jiggling their tits in my face while I'm trying to enjoy the game. I don't mind if it was a slight increase from the current but thats all, just can't trust the internet to be reasonable with total control. Just to be clear here, I'm not totally against it, at least a chest slider but it has to limited. Wasn't intending to offend either but there is more to beauty and attractiveness than big tits and ass.

We all have our preferences but you kind of made it seem like the character creation sucks and you can't make anything attractive without a boob and butt slider, which just isn't the case. Having just looked at some of your videos I can already tell you are the sort to go overboard on the sliders, your view on a healthy size really isn't correct, the size you'd go for is bare-able for a woman, not commonly natural and brings a good deal of backpain for most with such size.

I know we are playing games and its fantasy and all that but having that sort of size in a ton of the playerbase (which is what happens when people get control as there are many men like yourself who play women and go big) is just off putting for anyone that isn't into oversized breasts.

Why do you care so much about what other people make their chars look like? I mean worry about your own char not what randomdomperson1 did with theirs. 99% of the world are normal sane straight people, and they are all fine with breasts on women, it honeslty baffles me why someone would have a problem with it. Its just one of the dumbest things to have a problem with in a game. Also for me? I don't go big, I prefer a bit bigger than average, but not maxxed on the slider. As I also feel if its too big it looks bad, but if other people wana do it, its your char I am not going to comment as its none of my business. I got my own char to worry about. But honestly there are more valid arguements FOR having these sliders than there is against having them. The key word here is valid arguements. Most of the arguements against it make no sense. Especially when people cry about being inclusive and crap today so damn much. In the sense of inclusivity they cry about you think they would be complaining that these sliders are NOT in the game, as this excludes alot of women, so much for their arguement about wanting things to be inclusive when those people tend to be the ones who wanna exclude people the most from things.

Most of the ones who don't want it just seem repulsed by the fact woman have breasts bigger than a A cup. Which kinda makes you wonder about those people and if they are right in the head.

[Razzle]

if we can do boob n butt slider gimme the same option to make monsters hotter with fatter butts n other stuff
its only fair

[NiamhNyx]

Originally posted by Game Cooker US Rocks VR:

Originally posted by Moonwitch:

Not everything needs a boob and butt slider.

And height....
And yes if a game is letting you create a character that reflects who you want to play then it should all be there. There is no legitimate reason for it not to be. None.

I guess if people wanted a photo mode you would be saying that that doesn't need to be there either? Right? Or name calling?

there is a lore reason for the height though. All hunters must be with in a certain acceptable height, guild be weird.

[Scyris]

Originally posted by NiamhNyx:

Originally posted by Game Cooker US Rocks VR:

And height....
And yes if a game is letting you create a character that reflects who you want to play then it should all be there. There is no legitimate reason for it not to be. None.

I guess if people wanted a photo mode you would be saying that that doesn't need to be there either? Right? Or name calling?

there is a lore reason for the height though. All hunters must be with in a certain acceptable height, guild be weird.

I mean it kinda makes sense when you look at the size of some the weapons, there is no way a short person is going to be able to swing it because its just too big. I mean alot of the weapons already look comically big on the hunter height we have now as it is. I mean that great sword prob weights more than the hunter swinging it. Especially if its a female hunter.

Its kinda why I can't take combat in some games like final fantasy seriously, especially FF11/14 when you have 3 feet tall small people able to lock weapons with something thats 4 times their size and not just get curb stomped trying it. It just looks silly. As by the laws of physics that smaller person would have no chance in a contest of strength just because of their height and weight difference.

[Saiyan]

Originally posted by zmanbuilder:

It most likely has to do with armor mapping, basically the devs did not want to make different armor for varying boob and butt sizes.

this get stated a lot but they literally just made it work in Dragons Dogma 2

[Renée Renard]

Originally posted by Scyris:

Originally posted by Renée Renard:

Use mods when they appear as that will make you happy, don't need weird people ruining things for the rest. Majority of the time when people are given control over boob and butt sliders they go overboard because they tend to want it for the wrong reasons, wanting to impress other weirdos / Use with nude mods / To get a bit of sexual satisfaction / to look 'sexy' in a game its not needed in. Its a monster hunting game and the character creation is good already, you can make attractive characters and sometimes they look sexy to a degree but you don't need to look like the smithy just because you are maybe obsessed with big assets on a woman.

And for gods sake big tits and butt does not mean attractive unless you are a undeveloped shallow simpleton. I swear most times I see people creating characters with oversized body parts they do a terrible job with the face and other areas of the body which defeats the point of the end result which they wanted to be 'attractive'.

Its not a needed feature, its a feature thats often abused if it not limited and I do not want oversized women jiggling their tits in my face while I'm trying to enjoy the game. I don't mind if it was a slight increase from the current but thats all, just can't trust the internet to be reasonable with total control. Just to be clear here, I'm not totally against it, at least a chest slider but it has to limited. Wasn't intending to offend either but there is more to beauty and attractiveness than big tits and ass.

We all have our preferences but you kind of made it seem like the character creation sucks and you can't make anything attractive without a boob and butt slider, which just isn't the case. Having just looked at some of your videos I can already tell you are the sort to go overboard on the sliders, your view on a healthy size really isn't correct, the size you'd go for is bare-able for a woman, not commonly natural and brings a good deal of backpain for most with such size.

I know we are playing games and its fantasy and all that but having that sort of size in a ton of the playerbase (which is what happens when people get control as there are many men like yourself who play women and go big) is just off putting for anyone that isn't into oversized breasts.

Why do you care so much about what other people make their chars look like? I mean worry about your own char not what randomdomperson1 did with theirs. 99% of the world are normal sane straight people, and they are all fine with breasts on women, it honeslty baffles me why someone would have a problem with it. Its just one of the dumbest things to have a problem with in a game. Also for me? I don't go big, I prefer a bit bigger than average, but not maxxed on the slider. As I also feel if its too big it looks bad, but if other people wana do it, its your char I am not going to comment as its none of my business. I got my own char to worry about. But honestly there are more valid arguements FOR having these sliders than there is against having them. The key word here is valid arguements. Most of the arguements against it make no sense. Especially when people cry about being inclusive and crap today so damn much. In the sense of inclusivity they cry about you think they would be complaining that these sliders are NOT in the game, as this excludes alot of women, so much for their arguement about wanting things to be inclusive when those people tend to be the ones who wanna exclude people the most from things.

Most of the ones who don't want it just seem repulsed by the fact woman have breasts bigger than a A cup. Which kinda makes you wonder about those people and if they are right in the head.

Errrr because I'm also playing the game and have to see things.......
Like seriously, thats a pretty damn good valid argument.
Theres a reason why I said a slight increase is fine, limitation on the option is needed otherwise you might as well just throw any sense out of the window. Yes a good deal of women have the sort of size breasts the op and many guys adore but quite often they are not natural, cause a lot of backpain, are a product of men's obsession and wants or a woman feeling inadequate. The OP couldn't find much clothing for his cyberpunk character because he went way too unrealistic with his character's breasts, which is bloody wild, not what I want in MH or a lot of games for that matter.

Some other things here, you might be reasonable in how you use it but many aren't, another point is that the OP is the exact sort I want to avoid, sometimes people's behaviours change in game because they created a 'sexy' woman, its ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ weird and off putting seeing supersized tits and lastly its not even a fitting game for this ♥♥♥♥. And when I'm actively trying to find teammates and communities to game with its the guys that insist on being female and go with the terrible proportions that are the creepiest to deal with.

Its pretty sane to think these things when you aren't a guy who wants to make what they deem to be a hot female character in a game with the mindset that boobs and ass are the highest contributing factor to beauty and while i'm all for people being happy and catered for it should only be to a degree where it makes sense in the domain its in. I'm a bisexual woman, I love breasts too but not to the point of stupidity or where I can imagine the pain through my screen. Did I say no to it completely? No I didn't and despite what you believe there isn't a lot of women with large breasts that are demanding for the option, we all know its mostly guys that play women that are the main audience here for this option so don't bring being inclusive into it. Not once have I heard any of my girlfriends ever complain about breast size options in a game because we can conjure attractive characters anyway, find a lot adequate are general just happy to have the options and we don't focus on the wrong things. Again, this is not the game for this stuff and it certainly doesn't need to be in everything. But of course any woman against adding a slider with little limits is ugly, jealous, has small breasts or isn't sane.

Mods will put the option in simply because its the internet and people let out all their depravity in full force. And the biggest most funny thing about this sort of subject is that its always about women 99% of the time, rarely is it the other way around which is really telling.

Already played in many large worlds and I existed in bloody second life of all things, a place where people have full control and certainly go balloon tits and ass commonly, low and behold the majority are men! Wow bloody shocker, they even go the extra mile and add a ♥♥♥♥ because for whatever reason a lot of men these days like women with extra while still saying they are straight. Lets say that you are a straight man, sure you like tits and you get this wish to have the option but they also made it a thing for guys to have very clear large bulges, how cool would you be with that being everywhere and at times in your face? Many wouldn't be too happy I'm sure with how touchy guys are when it comes to being too close to one another. Its not about being open, accepting and all that crap or hating boobs or so called attractive looks. I just want to enjoy the games I buy like everyone else but in a tasteful manner and one that makes sense, mods will be there for people who want to go the extra mile and be freaky or make their dream woman, I don't care about that, I'm here to hunt monsters for christ sake not see boobs and jiggle physics.

A slider for a small to moderate increase and nothing more is reasonable. Said enough on the matter, not that it does matter, some guys will cry and argue no matter what on such a pathetic subject when they are blessed with a lot already. We give you this brand new and improved monster hunter! Yeah but what about big tits?

[BigJ]

Fellow hunter, you'll be staring at the rear or chest areas of monsters already, you don't need more distractions from the hunt.

Well outside of the BULGING MUSCLES AND EXPOSED ABS that we can get away with.

[Fat Princess]

as a fellow butt and boob worshiper it is sad there are no sliders but height sliders mess up the rigging of the skeleton which can cause weird clipping issues with the hands holding the weapons and such. And like weapons can't be scaled themselves cause that could change the gameplay if the weapon to monster contact is based off the model. Games like dynasty warriors empires that have a height slider and the such often cause odd weapon holding and such and it looks very unnatural. I don't think they dont have the sliders cause of modern game stuff, i think it would just be hard to make it work right without it messing up consistency. For instance in phantasy star online 2, esp on jp server, you can make super small char, and the way they hold the staves and guns looks so silly, the scope of some guns will go straight into the eyeball/head lol.