Can we please remove Denuvo?

[Liveira]

MH Wilds is currently the number 2 of steam's global game sales, why we the people paying for the game are getting punished with terrible optimization and bloat caused by Denuvo, something that doesn't even stop a game from being pirated.
MH Wilds optimization is the only thing that could stop this game from it's success

[Caesar]

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İlk olarak Xylo tarafından gönderildi:

just no, sorry.

Denuvo came out saying they would benchmark multiple games to prove it doesnt impact then retracted it after they began, because it has a significant impact.

But to hit on monster hunter wilds specifically, this is a cpu intensive game due to the constant simulation, this is why the FPS is already laughably low on systems with a 9800x3d and a 4090, add extra computations that are actually unnecessary will impact more than "1 or 2 frames", its an immeasurable impact because we don't have a denuvoless version to test, but you can be assured it would be quite the difference.

Denuvo is an utter plague, its the modern-day starforce drm and an utter joke, don't shill for it.

OMG I remember that they removed it from their discord and everything.
Hell even on the discord they were just straight up lying saying your game will never need internet connection again and can always be offline when that was never the case and still isn't the case.

Also the beta doesn't have denuvo so I guess we could maybe test the locations in the Beta if the game doesn't have a good boost to performance at launch because even thought he benchmark is 1.0 version of the game it to still basically runs the exact same as the beta.

Denuvo contradicts themselves even to this day, on their own website.

Quote;
'Is there an activation limit for games using anti-tamper?

Yes, to prevent brute-force attacks on the games, there may be a limit to the number of activations allowed in each period.

For Denuvo Anti-Tamper the limit is five systems within 24 hours, which should not impact legitimate customers.'
Source;
https://irdeto.com/blog/pc-anti-tamper-technology-worries-tamed#activation-limit

Quote;
'What is the difference between DRM and Anti-Tamper?

Anti-Tamper is completely transparent to legitimate game buyers and does not in any way impose activation limits, install drivers, or require a gamer to be “always on.”'
Source;
https://irdeto.com/denuvo/anti-tamper

[Killance]

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They get rid of denuvo, use a capcom launcher requiring proof of purchase to play online since its now always online and suddenly its no longer about denuvo.

Nobody likes using 3rd party launchers dude there's a reason why almost every studio is dropping that crap.
And one of the reason people don't like denuvo is because it will require the game to be connected to the internet every 3days or so, I still can't play Wukong on my Steamdeck because at my work place there is no internet.

Okay, get rid of denuvo and have them tie the in-game to a login showing you bought the game digitally then. Otherwise you can't play it. No launcher needed.

See, no matter what I say you'll say no. It was never about denuvo for most.

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İlk olarak 1080Puktra tarafından gönderildi:

Nobody likes using 3rd party launchers dude there's a reason why almost every studio is dropping that crap.
And one of the reason people don't like denuvo is because it will require the game to be connected to the internet every 3days or so, I still can't play Wukong on my Steamdeck because at my work place there is no internet.

Okay, get rid of denuvo and have them tie the in-game to a login showing you bought the game digitally then. Otherwise you can't play it. No launcher needed.

See, no matter what I say you'll say no. It was never about denuvo for most.

Almost all Monster Hunter game's are a single-player games with multiplayer components so no lets not do a 100% online game this isn't a MMO dude.
Also the beta pirates have ♥♥♥♥♥♥ around the online server requirement since the first Beta.

Stop wanting a worse product because I for one would actually like to be able to play my game's when ever I want.
The multi billion dollar company doesn't care about you at all.

Also getting rid of denuvo would make pirates life a lot easier because pirates even pirate MMO multiplayer game's dude a lot of Capcoms old MMO game's that are no longer around are still alive because of pirates.

[Killance]

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Stop wanting a worse product

But it doesn't make it worse. In the end, like with most, it's never about denuvo. It's about pirating the game for free. Kind of outed yourself there.

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İlk olarak 1080Puktra tarafından gönderildi:

But it doesn't make it worse. In the end, like with most, it's never about denuvo. It's about pirating the game for free. Kind of outed yourself there.

Yes yes it does Denuvo only makes a worse product for the paying customer there are no positives what so ever for us, also I've paid for multiple game's with denuvo that even got cracked shortly after launch or even before launch and I'm going to buy MH Wilds in the coming day's as well.
As you can see I own MH World & Rise and I bought them at release date both with Denuvo.
So how am I outing myself.

Also a great man once said pirating is a service issue, and you want a worse service for the customer which leads to more pirates.

[Killance]

Witcher 2 is considered one of the best games released for Eu and Na. It's currently one of the most pirated games of all time.

What you said has absolutely nothing to do with it. You just want a free game.

[Hurricane]

So on top of the performance issue, they still use Denuvo? (Don't they use a couple of DRMs in their games? e.g. Dragon Dogma 2.)
I'll skip this one for a few years.

I've avoided almost every single Denuvo infected games for years, I've got a big enough backlog to last for years without buying any game.

[Palicai]

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Denuvo does almost nothing to hamper your performance, i'll belive the tech guru's on youtube before i listen to what anyone else has to say. "Denuvo bad" is just another teenager bandwagon these days, but hey, feel free.

You are still wrong.

You have the resources to find out yourself mate, your online. Im not your nanny.

[Hurricane]

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Witcher 2 is considered one of the best games released for Eu and Na. It's currently one of the most pirated games of all time.

What you said has absolutely nothing to do with it. You just want a free game.

At least try to use your brain when you reply.

• Witcher 2 may have been pirated a lot (a shame) but the devs still don't use DRM because they know it's not worth hurting their customers. Besides, nothing tells the pirates would
  have bought the game. (For many countries, the prices are simply too high.)
  
• The person you are replying to already owns the game.
  
• I don't own the game but I fully agree with him and will not buy the game. Look at my profile and dare to say I want free games.

[AnvilMAn]

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Also getting rid of denuvo would make pirates life a lot easier because pirates even pirate MMO multiplayer game's dude a lot of Capcoms old MMO game's that are no longer around are still alive because of pirates.

do you...do you even know what an mmo is? also do show me an actual capcom mmo

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İlk olarak 1080Puktra tarafından gönderildi:

do you...do you even know what an mmo is? also do show me an actual capcom mmo

Don't play stupid you know exactly what I mean when I say MMO MULTIPLAYER game's.

Also now lets see Monster Hunter Online,Dragon's Dogma Online, Mobile Suit Gundam Online, Universal Century Gundam Online, just a couple I can think off of the top of my head.

Also all four of thoses MMOs MULTIPLAYER games all have fan made servers.

But I understand why you may have never heard of them of because they never got launched outside of japan or China and there all closed now.

By the way MH Wilds is a single-player game with multiplayer components.

[AnvilMAn]

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Don't play stupid you know exactly what I mean when I say MMO MULTIPLAYER game's.
Also now lets see Monster Hunter Online,Dragon's Dogma Online, Mobile Suit Gundam Online, Gundam Online Wars, just a couple I can think off of the top of my head.

By the way MH Wilds is a single-player game with multiplayer components.

i wouldnt classify any of those as an mmo but lets play shall we? in order: dead for 6 years, dead for 6 years, dead for 3 years, and dead for at least 2 years cant find a concrete date but eh cba to deep dive

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i wouldnt classify any of those as an mmo but lets play shall we? in order: dead for 6 years, dead for 6 years, dead for 3 years, and dead for at least 2 years cant find a concrete date but eh cba to deep dive

So if WOW, or Runescape died it wouldn't have been a MMO Multiplayer game to you?
You can't be serous.

[AnvilMAn]

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So if WOW, or Runescape died it wouldn't have been a MMO Multiplayer game to you?
You can't be serous.

no im saying ive seen what those games are, theyre not MMOs

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İlk olarak 1080Puktra tarafından gönderildi:

no im saying ive seen what those games are, theyre not MMOs

But they litterly were dude lol.
MMO=massively multiplayer online.
There's a reason why I said MMO Multiplayer meaning only multiplayer and only online no offline.

Context matters.