Can we please remove Denuvo?

[Liveira]

MH Wilds is currently the number 2 of steam's global game sales, why we the people paying for the game are getting punished with terrible optimization and bloat caused by Denuvo, something that doesn't even stop a game from being pirated.
MH Wilds optimization is the only thing that could stop this game from it's success

[Nihrahk]

While I hate Denuvo as much as anyone else, the frames you lose from it is like maybe 2 or 3. It's very insignificant. Also, the devs don't read the Steam forums.

[BEEP!]

Not until Capcom is done with Wilds, I don't like Denuvo as well but at least Capcom removes that stuff after there done working on a game and move onto the next thing.

[AnvilMAn]

Originally posted by Nihrahk:

While I hate Denuvo as much as anyone else, the frames you lose from it is like maybe 2 or 3. It's very insignificant. Also, the devs don't read the Steam forums.

riiiiiiight denuvo has an insignificant impact on performance and if you believe that then i have a bridge id like to sell you

[Liveira]

Originally posted by 1080Puktra:

Not until Capcom is done with Wilds, I don't like Denuvo as well but at least Capcom removes that stuff after there done working on a game and move onto the next thing.

Gamers are capable of voicing their opinions and vote with their wallets, if the community do gather up we're capable of having changes, Sony did back down with the account linking in helldivers 2 after the community did gather up, why monster hunter fans can't do the same for us to have good optimization on a $70 game?

[Nihrahk]

Originally posted by AnvilMAn:

Originally posted by Nihrahk:

While I hate Denuvo as much as anyone else, the frames you lose from it is like maybe 2 or 3. It's very insignificant. Also, the devs don't read the Steam forums.

riiiiiiight denuvo has an insignificant impact on performance and if you believe that then i have a bridge id like to sell you

It is insignificant. I have owned plenty of PC games that had Denuvo, (not just on Steam I might add) and it never affected much at all. Thinking it affects performance in any significant way is just sheer paranoia, or you're running a million other things on top of the game.

[Cuchilain]

I feel like around this time we have probably reached a point in processors that denuvo doesnt have much of an impact, but im not sure how it works and impacts games. I thought it ate up your processor by checking the run state and making sure it hasnt been tampered with periodicly.
The game runs well enough in the beta to really enjoy it.
Try playing Alice at 10 fps or less. Thats how we used to game in the cave.

[TR1PLE 6]

Originally posted by Nihrahk:

While I hate Denuvo as much as anyone else, the frames you lose from it is like maybe 2 or 3. It's very insignificant. Also, the devs don't read the Steam forums.

Insignificant? I think not. Jedi Survivor had Denuvo removed and the difference was noticeable.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmAopwEzT7s
The averages are not the main concern but the 1% lows had a big increase, as high as 52%!
The lower the 1% lows are, the more stuttering that occurs.

[BEEP!]

Originally posted by TR1PLE 6:

Originally posted by Nihrahk:

While I hate Denuvo as much as anyone else, the frames you lose from it is like maybe 2 or 3. It's very insignificant. Also, the devs don't read the Steam forums.

Insignificant? I think not. Jedi Survivor had Denuvo removed and the difference was noticeable.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmAopwEzT7s
The averages are not the main concern but the 1% lows had a big increase, as high as 52%!
The lower the 1% lows are, the more stuttering that occurs.

They'l tell you it's because it had a performance patch but what they won't tell you is every single denuvo game that removes denuvo always have a performance patch.

[Palicai]

Denuvo does almost nothing to hamper your performance, i'll belive the tech guru's on youtube before i listen to what anyone else has to say. "Denuvo bad" is just another teenager bandwagon these days, but hey, feel free.

You are still wrong.

[Liveira]

Originally posted by Palikai:

Denuvo does almost nothing to hamper your performance, i'll belive the tech guru's on youtube before i listen to what anyone else has to say. "Denuvo bad" is just another teenager bandwagon these days, but hey, feel free.

You are still wrong.

"You are still wrong"
He says while doesn't provide something proving that denuvo isn't an issue...
I find sad people consuming anything without having standards and act smug to anyone who provides valid criticism against a $70 game

[Treyen]

Every game that's ever had denuvo cracked or removed in a patch also just happens to have massive improvements to 1% lows at the same time, but surely it's not Denuvo that's the problem, right? Yall too busy sucking the farts out of some youtubers and ignoring reality around here while you shill for DRM.

[Killance]

They get rid of denuvo, use a capcom launcher requiring proof of purchase to play online since its now always online and suddenly its no longer about denuvo.

[BEEP!]

Originally posted by Killance:

They get rid of denuvo, use a capcom launcher requiring proof of purchase to play online since its now always online and suddenly its no longer about denuvo.

Nobody likes using 3rd party launchers dude there's a reason why almost every studio is dropping that crap.
And one of the reason people don't like denuvo is because it will require the game to be connected to the internet every 3days or so, I still can't play Wukong on my Steamdeck because at my work place there is no internet.

[AnvilMAn]

Originally posted by Nihrahk:

Originally posted by AnvilMAn:

riiiiiiight denuvo has an insignificant impact on performance and if you believe that then i have a bridge id like to sell you

It is insignificant. I have owned plenty of PC games that had Denuvo, (not just on Steam I might add) and it never affected much at all. Thinking it affects performance in any significant way is just sheer paranoia, or you're running a million other things on top of the game.

https://media.tenor.com/DWepV8VeTcsAAAAe/jeopardy-never-happened.png

[BingusDingus]

Originally posted by Nihrahk:

Originally posted by AnvilMAn:

riiiiiiight denuvo has an insignificant impact on performance and if you believe that then i have a bridge id like to sell you

It is insignificant. I have owned plenty of PC games that had Denuvo, (not just on Steam I might add) and it never affected much at all. Thinking it affects performance in any significant way is just sheer paranoia, or you're running a million other things on top of the game.

It's not insignificant at all, just look at RE8 that had a conflict with Denuvo that caused the Fly swarms to obliterate the FPS.
Or look at Total War Warhammer 3, most people have forgotten about the fact that the pre-release build that reviewers got didn't have Denuvo and ran great, then it went live with Denuvo and everyone was having massive performance issues, it led to damage control on the content creator side because everyone was accusing them of lying.

The examples of just how much Denuvo affects performance are legion.