"Potato PC's" aren't the problem, and its purposefully disrespectful

[Æternum]

Let’s get something straight right off the bat—Monster Hunter Wilds’s performance issues aren’t some magical “potato PC” problem. It’s a game issue. People aren’t out here running Word or checking their email; they’re playing a modern title that, for whatever reason, runs like crap on even decently powerful systems. So stop gaslighting folks with your ridiculous “just get a 5090” nonsense. It’s not the problem, and it never has been.

⦿It’s a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ Optimization Issue, Not a Hardware One: The benchmark/beta have been out for a while now, and the fact that it still struggles on mid-to-high-end rigs proves one thing—Monster Hunter Wilds is terribly optimized. It’s not a “you need better hardware” situation. A 3070 is plenty for almost any other modern game, but this one? Stuttering, frame drops, crashes—it’s broken. Don’t give me the crap that everyone needs a $5,000 computer to brute force the game just to make the damn thing run.

⦿Telling People to Buy a $2,000 Card (even more than that depending on what country you're reading this in) is Complete Bullsh*t: It’s beyond lazy and frankly insulting to tell people who are already running decent hardware to just “get a better PC.” That’s your solution to everything? Throw money at it and hope the game magically fixes itself? No. That’s a lazy troll response. Not everyone has unlimited money to throw at a game that’s simply not working right. The issue is with the game, not the person’s wallet or system.

⦿Stop Pretending Hardware is the Only Answer: The fact that people are running the same setup as you and getting worse performance doesn’t mean their PC is trash. It means something about how this game is designed or optimized is the problem. You can’t throw money at that. You want to tell someone who has a 3070, or a 3080 to buy a 5090? Why? Because you’re too lazy to look past the hardware and face the fact that the game is completely jank? These “solutions” are the kind of garbage you see from people who have no clue how optimization works, but who want to feel superior for no reason.

⦿You’re Not Helping Anyone: Let me break it to you—trolling people with useless advice like “just upgrade your toaster” doesn’t fix a damn thing. It’s not only stupid, but it’s downright disrespectful. People are coming here with legitimate issues—stuttering, low FPS, crashes—and your solution is to throw around “just buy better hardware” without understanding anything about the underlying problem. That’s not helpful—it’s a lazy excuse to avoid admitting that the game’s performance is flat-out bad.

Bottom line: Monster Hunter Wilds needs real optimization fixes, not more overpriced hardware. Stop wasting people’s time with the same tired troll response “just upgrade your potato” crap, and start addressing the real issue here: the game is running like garbage on systems that should have no trouble with it. Telling people to just “buy a 5090” isn’t just wrong, it’s actively unhelpful insulting, and disrespectful. Quit excusing poor game development with brute force hardware.

[Desert Leaf]

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I would rather not spend the hours to teach.

Again, you answered the premise. 4K resolution has nothing to do with CPU. Anyone who renders movies can tell you that. A game is much worse than a movie. The game has to movie render X times in a given second.

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I can give you an entire history supporting the claim.

I will just leave this here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DfGNPiNTuM

bahahaha! Even the dude on the video is clueless. He is just yapping away about CPU bottleneck and the cpu is comfortable at 50-57%. He switches the next game and its sitting comfortable at 17% yet still claiming its CPU struggle.


Hello! Its the not CPU. The Cpu is clearly chilling and having a good time. The GPU is failing to perform a function that is still kept secret by the Manufacturers of the GPU. Again, if you had some deep knowledge on rendering you would know this.

As i mentioned elsewhere, physics doesnt lie. The GPU is doing something wrong hence why speeding it up with frame generation is a GPU…….. A GPU solution.

[Anna]

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Hello! Its the not CPU. The Cpu is clearly chilling and having a good time. The GPU is failing to perform a function that is still kept secret by the Manufacturers of the GPU. Again, if you had some deep knowledge on rendering you would know this.

case in point, trolling
goodbye, have a bad career

[Sanquin]

Seems like people have the memory of a goldfish these days. In the mid to late 2010's you could still get a full PC for $500~600, and it would run any new game well on at least a mix of medium/high settings. Even the high end 1080 started out at only $430. Now look at the 5080, which starts at 1200. $1200 used to get you a full very high end PC!

Stop expecting people to "just buy a 5080/5090". That's a lot of money, and most people can't easily afford that if at all. And on top of that those prices are clearly artificially inflated like crazy because of greed, and because of caveman gamers going "unga bunga just get better pc parts bruh!"

People are very justified in complaining about this game running like ass on anything less than an $2500 computer. At this rate consoles will really "win the war" by simply still being affordable to play games on.

[Ginebro]

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Now look at the 5080, which starts at 1200

I doubt any end user got it for less than $2000 tbh.

[Black Lamb, Rock Enjoyer]

Lets get this straight. Its mostly the furry crowd running defense for this.

[Desert Leaf]

its pretty darn crystal clear its not computer specs.

If someone builds a car that runs on water, why are you still trying to use a better premium gas?

[LegionXNX]

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Let’s get something straight right off the bat—Monster Hunter Wilds’s performance issues aren’t some magical “potato PC” problem. It’s a game issue. People aren’t out here running Word or checking their email; they’re playing a modern title that, for whatever reason, runs like crap on even decently powerful systems. So stop gaslighting folks with your ridiculous “just get a 5090” nonsense. It’s not the problem, and it never has been.

⦿It’s a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ Optimization Issue, Not a Hardware One: The benchmark/beta have been out for a while now, and the fact that it still struggles on mid-to-high-end rigs proves one thing—Monster Hunter Wilds is terribly optimized. It’s not a “you need better hardware” situation. A 3070 is plenty for almost any other modern game, but this one? Stuttering, frame drops, crashes—it’s broken. Don’t give me the crap that everyone needs a $5,000 computer to brute force the game just to make the damn thing run.

⦿Telling People to Buy a $2,000 Card (even more than that depending on what country you're reading this in) is Complete Bullsh*t: It’s beyond lazy and frankly insulting to tell people who are already running decent hardware to just “get a better PC.” That’s your solution to everything? Throw money at it and hope the game magically fixes itself? No. That’s a lazy troll response. Not everyone has unlimited money to throw at a game that’s simply not working right. The issue is with the game, not the person’s wallet or system.

⦿Stop Pretending Hardware is the Only Answer: The fact that people are running the same setup as you and getting worse performance doesn’t mean their PC is trash. It means something about how this game is designed or optimized is the problem. You can’t throw money at that. You want to tell someone who has a 3070, or a 3080 to buy a 5090? Why? Because you’re too lazy to look past the hardware and face the fact that the game is completely jank? These “solutions” are the kind of garbage you see from people who have no clue how optimization works, but who want to feel superior for no reason.

⦿You’re Not Helping Anyone: Let me break it to you—trolling people with useless advice like “just upgrade your toaster” doesn’t fix a damn thing. It’s not only stupid, but it’s downright disrespectful. People are coming here with legitimate issues—stuttering, low FPS, crashes—and your solution is to throw around “just buy better hardware” without understanding anything about the underlying problem. That’s not helpful—it’s a lazy excuse to avoid admitting that the game’s performance is flat-out bad.

Bottom line: Monster Hunter Wilds needs real optimization fixes, not more overpriced hardware. Stop wasting people’s time with the same tired troll response “just upgrade your potato” crap, and start addressing the real issue here: the game is running like garbage on systems that should have no trouble with it. Telling people to just “buy a 5090” isn’t just wrong, it’s actively unhelpful insulting, and disrespectful. Quit excusing poor game development with brute force hardware.

I always notice its the same small group of people complaining about this in these forums but when i go on YT on any MH vid the comments be completely different. then shown in these forums like 90% of the comments here complaining about the performance are the same 12 people i seen before.

Odd isn't it?

[Desert Leaf]

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Let’s get something straight right off the bat—Monster Hunter Wilds’s performance issues aren’t some magical “potato PC” problem. It’s a game issue. People aren’t out here running Word or checking their email; they’re playing a modern title that, for whatever reason, runs like crap on even decently powerful systems. So stop gaslighting folks with your ridiculous “just get a 5090” nonsense. It’s not the problem, and it never has been.

⦿It’s a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ Optimization Issue, Not a Hardware One: The benchmark/beta have been out for a while now, and the fact that it still struggles on mid-to-high-end rigs proves one thing—Monster Hunter Wilds is terribly optimized. It’s not a “you need better hardware” situation. A 3070 is plenty for almost any other modern game, but this one? Stuttering, frame drops, crashes—it’s broken. Don’t give me the crap that everyone needs a $5,000 computer to brute force the game just to make the damn thing run.

⦿Telling People to Buy a $2,000 Card (even more than that depending on what country you're reading this in) is Complete Bullsh*t: It’s beyond lazy and frankly insulting to tell people who are already running decent hardware to just “get a better PC.” That’s your solution to everything? Throw money at it and hope the game magically fixes itself? No. That’s a lazy troll response. Not everyone has unlimited money to throw at a game that’s simply not working right. The issue is with the game, not the person’s wallet or system.

⦿Stop Pretending Hardware is the Only Answer: The fact that people are running the same setup as you and getting worse performance doesn’t mean their PC is trash. It means something about how this game is designed or optimized is the problem. You can’t throw money at that. You want to tell someone who has a 3070, or a 3080 to buy a 5090? Why? Because you’re too lazy to look past the hardware and face the fact that the game is completely jank? These “solutions” are the kind of garbage you see from people who have no clue how optimization works, but who want to feel superior for no reason.

⦿You’re Not Helping Anyone: Let me break it to you—trolling people with useless advice like “just upgrade your toaster” doesn’t fix a damn thing. It’s not only stupid, but it’s downright disrespectful. People are coming here with legitimate issues—stuttering, low FPS, crashes—and your solution is to throw around “just buy better hardware” without understanding anything about the underlying problem. That’s not helpful—it’s a lazy excuse to avoid admitting that the game’s performance is flat-out bad.

Bottom line: Monster Hunter Wilds needs real optimization fixes, not more overpriced hardware. Stop wasting people’s time with the same tired troll response “just upgrade your potato” crap, and start addressing the real issue here: the game is running like garbage on systems that should have no trouble with it. Telling people to just “buy a 5090” isn’t just wrong, it’s actively unhelpful insulting, and disrespectful. Quit excusing poor game development with brute force hardware.

I always notice its the same small group of people complaining about this in these forums but when i go on YT on any MH vid the comments be completely different. then shown in these forums like 90% of the comments here complaining about the performance are the same 12 people i seen before.

Odd isn't it?

Ive seen many new faces. However if truly want to compare comments, there one critical key you need to consider.

The happy crowd is using frame generation and are … happy.

The frustrated crowd is trying to Sherlock Holmes as to why CURRENT GPUs run poorly without frame generation. It being 2025, GPUs should be hitting 300 fps by now. I been hinting at the reason, no one wants to believe a guy who isnt in NASA.

[RakataEpsilon]

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Seems like people have the memory of a goldfish these days. In the mid to late 2010's you could still get a full PC for $500~600, and it would run any new game well on at least a mix of medium/high settings. Even the high end 1080 started out at only $430. Now look at the 5080, which starts at 1200. $1200 used to get you a full very high end PC!

Stop expecting people to "just buy a 5080/5090". That's a lot of money, and most people can't easily afford that if at all. And on top of that those prices are clearly artificially inflated like crazy because of greed, and because of caveman gamers going "unga bunga just get better pc parts bruh!"

People are very justified in complaining about this game running like ass on anything less than an $2500 computer. At this rate consoles will really "win the war" by simply still being affordable to play games on.

Yeah Gpus were cheaper back then and im not gonna do the inflation argument. Im not defending anything here, but the price for producing wafers has gone up exponentially in the last 6 years, and all of the GPU manufacturers have no control over prices for those wafers, or even over the cost of lithography technology used to make them - they are so far down the supply chain. For example, the cost of a TSMC 10 nm wafer had a price of around $6,000 (GTX 10 was 16 nm, RTX 20 was 12 nm) vs the price of a 5 nm wafer which costs around $15000-17000 now (4N which is 40 and 50 series is based on this) and I do believe its artificial bc they have a monopoly. NVIDIA and AMD have no control over it - 3nm is expected to run around 20k. That said, an ignorant idiot is gonna say "Just upgrade bro" - I dont expect them to actually have been on PC for long at all. Theres a viable reason why a 5080 is the price what it is right now (It still sucks for what it costs) - the 50 series is still a paper launch being taken advantage of by everybody. The cost of PC gaming will force these ignorant and obnoxious people out the same way that the Fermi era did, and im all for it.

That said, this game is more CPU bound than anything and with how big MH is itll get years of support and they will continue to improve it over time

[kohlrak]

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i wonder how you are this dense? if the GPU is going faster than the CPU, it still has to wait for the CPU. and in case you didn't notice, in YOUR thread, someone replied with the same gpu, and a much better CPU, with 100% more FPS than you. so you can keep pretending you are onto the industry or whatever larp it is you are doing, or you can (finally) turn tail and bother to learn what you are talking about at all.

honestly, this is just really terrible trolling from you, you are trying to tinfoil hat instead of just accepting that your CPU can't handle a game that runs 94 ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ threads on the CPU

Again…. If the GPU is going faster than the CPU why would Frame generation solve the frame rate? In other words, why would increasing the frequency of which the GPU renders a single frame solve this particular case?

Because it was never a CPU issue.

The physics explains it.

Your physics lesson is flawed, because you're failing to understand parallelization. The extra frame-generated frame does not rely on the CPU,meaning if you're getting 30FPS by a CPU botleneck, with frame gen off the GPU is getting data for 30 frames. With frame gen on, the CPU is still only sending 30 frames of data per second, but with frame gen the CPU is either interpolating or extrapolating an extra frame per frame, meaning you'll get 60FPS with half the CPU calls, which is the entire point. Frame gen taxes the GPU slightly more to produce a higher framerate, and has zero impact on the CPU, but it's ignoring the CPU to produce the frame.

[LegionXNX]

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I always notice its the same small group of people complaining about this in these forums but when i go on YT on any MH vid the comments be completely different. then shown in these forums like 90% of the comments here complaining about the performance are the same 12 people i seen before.

Odd isn't it?

Ive seen many new faces. However if truly want to compare comments, there one critical key you need to consider.

The happy crowd is using frame generation and are … happy.

The frustrated crowd is trying to Sherlock Holmes as to why CURRENT GPUs run poorly without frame generation. It being 2025, GPUs should be hitting 300 fps by now. I been hinting at the reason, no one wants to believe a guy who isnt in NASA.

if you honestly expect a GPU 3060-3070 for example to run at 300 fps at high settings, no frame gen? to run an entire ecosystem, multiple monster effects, VFX. SFX etc.

I don't think you need sherlock holmes to see that a lot of people are not gonna expect lower mid range of GPUs to run all that on high settings at least. I say if you lower the graphics to a medium range or decrease shadow quality which is like the grim reaper of CPU and GPUs.

Definitely could help a lot

[shadow_otm]

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Ive seen many new faces. However if truly want to compare comments, there one critical key you need to consider.

The happy crowd is using frame generation and are … happy.

The frustrated crowd is trying to Sherlock Holmes as to why CURRENT GPUs run poorly without frame generation. It being 2025, GPUs should be hitting 300 fps by now. I been hinting at the reason, no one wants to believe a guy who isnt in NASA.

if you honestly expect a GPU 3060-3070 for example to run at 300 fps at high settings, no frame gen? to run an entire ecosystem, multiple monster effects, VFX. SFX etc.

I don't think you need sherlock holmes to see that a lot of people are not gonna expect lower mid range of GPUs to run all that.

I wonder if people had arguments like this about City Skylines II before they found out the issue was teeth being rendered at obscene quality even if you could barely see the people.

[LegionXNX]

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if you honestly expect a GPU 3060-3070 for example to run at 300 fps at high settings, no frame gen? to run an entire ecosystem, multiple monster effects, VFX. SFX etc.

I don't think you need sherlock holmes to see that a lot of people are not gonna expect lower mid range of GPUs to run all that.

I wonder if people had arguments like this about City Skylines II before they found out the issue was teeth being rendered at obscene quality even if you could barely see the people.

Unseen graphics are FPS killers definitely like on ghosts of tsushima I kept getting fps issues till i lower down the shadow quality to pretty much low and had clean experiences through the entirety of the game. It just really comes down to tweaking the game.

I am currently re-downloading the benchmark to test out more graphics and tweaks to improve my FPS regardless of it being 107.

[shadow_otm]

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I wonder if people had arguments like this about City Skylines II before they found out the issue was teeth being rendered at obscene quality even if you could barely see the people.

Unseen graphics are FPS killers definitely like on ghosts of tsushima I kept getting fps issues till i lower down the shadow quality to pretty much low and had clean experiences through the entirety of the game. It just really comes down to tweaking the game.

I am currently re-downloading the benchmark to test out more graphics and tweaks to improve my FPS regardless of it being 107.

True, but then Capcom didn't put anything in for me to effect render quality at a distance so unless someone changed something between beta and release I know my FPS is dropping anytime there are multiple things moving in the distance. Apparently this was an issue in DD2 as well but this has been a common practice in games with long distance views I'm surprised it's and issue though granted Monster Hunter usually has not have long distance view in open spaces previously that I know of. Still toning down the quality of objects in the distance has got to be common practice since fog went out of style (and god I remember what Turok on the 64 looked like if you turned the fog off).

[kohlrak]

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I wonder if people had arguments like this about City Skylines II before they found out the issue was teeth being rendered at obscene quality even if you could barely see the people.

Unseen graphics are FPS killers definitely like on ghosts of tsushima I kept getting fps issues till i lower down the shadow quality to pretty much low and had clean experiences through the entirety of the game. It just really comes down to tweaking the game.

I am currently re-downloading the benchmark to test out more graphics and tweaks to improve my FPS regardless of it being 107.

Oh that's definitely one of the things going on here. Which is really weird, because I remember there used to be something called "occlusion culling" being a mere setting 20 years ago.