Objectively Best Weapon

[Hi.standard]

I know there probably isn't an objectively best weapon but if you were really forced to come to one choice on best overall weapon, what would it be?

I've played almost only Lance, and Sword and Shield. And I love them, but, I cant help but feel like, for my skill level, they are like some of the weakest options and in the lances cases, a tad boring when you basically have 2 attacks.

So i'm looking for a new weapon to dedicate myself to, I've avoided overly popular weapons like the long sword...

I'm leaning towards Great Sword, or light or heavy bow gun. Any thoughts?

[Renée Renard]

Finally been able to settle on a weapon to main in monster hunter due to wilds. I'm going to be doubling up on hunting horn to bring a lot of buffs and bring the pain. Feels so much more fluid and smoother than previous games and im happy. Always just bounced around not knowing what the fudge im doing with various weapons.

[GamingWithSilvertail]

Publicado originalmente por Renée Renard:

Finally been able to settle on a weapon to main in monster hunter due to wilds. I'm going to be doubling up on hunting horn to bring a lot of buffs and bring the pain. Feels so much more fluid and smoother than previous games and im happy. Always just bounced around not knowing what the fudge im doing with various weapons.

Does double horn stack? Seems like a slight oversight here XD

[Renée Renard]

Publicado originalmente por GamingWithSilvertail:

Publicado originalmente por Renée Renard:

Finally been able to settle on a weapon to main in monster hunter due to wilds. I'm going to be doubling up on hunting horn to bring a lot of buffs and bring the pain. Feels so much more fluid and smoother than previous games and im happy. Always just bounced around not knowing what the fudge im doing with various weapons.

Does double horn stack? Seems like a slight oversight here XD

I hope it does, unsure if it will. According to the internet you can and it was stated on this video too https://youtu.be/__dNDhhJzQo?t=4198

[Scipo0419]

Publicado originalmente por Renée Renard:

Publicado originalmente por GamingWithSilvertail:

Does double horn stack? Seems like a slight oversight here XD

I hope it does, unsure if it will. According to the internet you can and it was stated on this video too https://youtu.be/__dNDhhJzQo?t=4198

So if I remember correctly, you can swap horns to get different buffs, but you can't stack two of the same buff in the same way two horn users can't stack two Attack Up L songs. They've also nerfed song potency when you change off of the horn, so I assume you could apply wind pressure negated and HG ear plugs with Horn 1, swap to Horn 2, the songs will be downgraded to wind pressure reduced and regular ear plugs, but then you can apply the songs from horn 2

[Renée Renard]

Publicado originalmente por Scipo0419:

Publicado originalmente por Renée Renard:

I hope it does, unsure if it will. According to the internet you can and it was stated on this video too https://youtu.be/__dNDhhJzQo?t=4198

So if I remember correctly, you can swap horns to get different buffs, but you can't stack two of the same buff in the same way two horn users can't stack two Attack Up L songs. They've also nerfed song potency when you change off of the horn, so I assume you could apply wind pressure negated and HG ear plugs with Horn 1, swap to Horn 2, the songs will be downgraded to wind pressure reduced and regular ear plugs, but then you can apply the songs from horn 2

Ah I just read that online, I understand why they did it but damn thats a buzzkill. for someone bringing two horns and maining it I feel its valid to keep buffs but for the reason of not wanting everyone to carry a HH as a secondary to buff themselves it makes total sense.

[McFuzz]

I noticed in the beta that the Light Bowgun got a lot of love, with tons of new moves. But I can't definitively said Light Bowgun is the best until we see all the guns with their ammo and burst lineups.

[カミナ]

Publicado originalmente por Nightmarian:

Publicado originalmente por カミナ:

compared to what? Charge blade? Maybe? Compared to many other melee weapons absolutely not. In world my LS skills lag way behind with other weapons like GS, hammer, lance etc. LS is pretty hard and complex if you actually try to utilize the weapons parrying, dodging, immunities etc.

LS IS easy, it's actually one of the reasons why everyone uses it alongside it being good. If it was an actually hard weapon, it wouldn't be as near as popular.

To be frank, there are no hard weapons and general mastery is easy too, you will naturally get there over time.

Becoming a 1%er is much harder, but also pointless unless you are a professional speed runner and are already one of the very few that tops the top 1% game content grind.

I think it's popular because it's cool and has a lot of neat moves. I mean it's called weeb weapon for a reason. But yeah I mean I don't think it's the hardest melee weapon stuff like charge blade exists, I just think that people acting like it's braindead are being extremely unfair. I still find it harder than plenty of other weapons.

Especially people who act like it's easier than stuff like sticky bomb gun users and stuff. Thats just pure LS hate in my opinion clouding any reasonable take.

Publicado originalmente por D. Flame:

Publicado originalmente por カミナ:

I found SA easier than LS or at least similar. HH in world yeah, but you picked one of the most obtuse weapon they keep changing precisely because they can't get it right.

Learning to actually use counters and things with long sword already puts it above most. I agree in general with the person above me who said LS has a pretty decent barrier to learning its meat and bones.

Foresight slash, or whatever it was called, probably had the most iframes out of any evasion move in the game. If you couldn't figure out how to use it effectively in less than 10 minutes, it was most likely a skill issue.

"skill issue" I get so tired of this toxic zoomer lingo. That's one move out of the entire kit and like I said I use other weapons to a higher level of skill. And with fs you can get caught in monster hitbox and it takes a long time to complete the move.

Also at least for me despite the iframes considering the prereqs around using fs I still find it pretty hard to use well consistently. It's easier for me to just run out of stuff charging with hammer or normally dodge etc. I think that isn't that hot of a take. You can find plenty of posts online about people asking for tips on timing FS etc. too so it's not like just because it has a lot of iframes that it's super easy.

I find utilizing any iframe or dodge that requires prep time and prep moves like FS to be pretty hard because it's alot on knowledge and prediction rather than reaction.

[D. Flame]

Publicado originalmente por カミナ:

"skill issue" of course its another toxic zoomer. That's one move out of the entire kit and like I said I use other weapons to a higher level of skill.

If you were skilled with the LS, you would not have said that. Foresight slash isn't just "one move," especially in MHWI. It is literally the corner stone of using the weapon well. At least I can see why you think the weapon is """hard"" now.

https://youtu.be/dEHMq7pnzgg?si=kedNLYiai87YuInl

[カミナ]

Publicado originalmente por D. Flame:

Publicado originalmente por カミナ:

"skill issue" of course its another toxic zoomer. That's one move out of the entire kit and like I said I use other weapons to a higher level of skill.

If you were skilled with the LS, you would not have said that. Foresight slash isn't just "one move," especially in MHWI. It is literally the corner stone of using the weapon well. At least I can see why you think the weapon is """hard"" now.

Im literally saying I'm not skilled with the LS. Talking about requiring skill directly contradicts the thing I'm criticizing in the first place. Did you not ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ read a word of what this discussion was about? Toxic little kid energy

The entire thing I have been saying was that LS isn't some braindead easy baby weapon then you insult my skill with it which I already said directly multiple times was less than that of other weapons, and then PROVE MY POINT, by posting a speedrun and saying that I don't have the skill required to use the weapon.

Thanks for proving my point that the LS requires quite a lot to actually use the kit to anywhere close to its potential and then also saying it requires skill to use. Not going to respond to your drivel anymore.

[D. Flame]

Publicado originalmente por カミナ:

Publicado originalmente por D. Flame:

If you were skilled with the LS, you would not have said that. Foresight slash isn't just "one move," especially in MHWI. It is literally the corner stone of using the weapon well. At least I can see why you think the weapon is """hard"" now.

Im literally saying I'm not skilled with the LS. Talking about requiring skill directly contradicts the thing I'm criticizing in the first place. Did you not ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ read a word of what this discussion was about? Toxic pos

You edited your previous post after I started replying to it.

Even if you are not skilled with the weapon, if you were skilled with any weapon, then you should be able to look at other skilled players and analyze their performance and why it works.

And you are the one name-calling, so if there is someone toxic here, it isn't me.

[D. Flame]

Publicado originalmente por カミナ:

Thanks for proving my point that the LS requires quite a lot to actually use the kit to anywhere close to its potential

No, it doesn't.

1.) The the thrust is a poke comes out quickly and recovers quickly.

2.) Foresight slash can quickly follow up the thrust, and has a ton of iframes.

3.) Spirit Round Slash is the attack that levels up your spirit gauge, and you can immediately follow a foresight slash with it for an instant level up, without needing to do a spirit combo first.

4.) Spirit Helm Breaker is the LS's big damage move that you want to use when you hit red gauge.

Those 4 things are all that you have to master to use LS to its full potential, everything else is just icing on the cake.

[Soren]

Publicado originalmente por McFuzz:

I noticed in the beta that the Light Bowgun got a lot of love, with tons of new moves. But I can't definitively said Light Bowgun is the best until we see all the guns with their ammo and burst lineups.

Eh, it was okay in the beta. I thought bow was a bit better. I didn't have time to try the HBG.

Now, I didn't use the LBG too much in the beta. But it's focus attack meant to destroy wounds seemed kind of bad? The bow can lock-on to tons of wounds at once, seems to refill arrow coating faster when you wound destroy, and follows up with a dragon piercer that can do a lot of additional damage. The LBG just seems to be a simple wound destroy if you can hit the wound with the shot. No additional damage or follow up attack? Also, the LBG focus mode shot has collision with the rest of the monster hitbox and can be blocked by the rest of the hitbox so certain wound direct hits are insanely hard to hit even with a mouse. This intentional?

[Terron]

Switchaxe for me coz I have the most fun with it and love it and its awesome and..you get the picture :D

[Cheerows]

If used well, it seems like bow and greatsword would be amazing. Bow is clear, it's just crazy. As for greatsword, it already deals amazing damage and if you are good at the fights you'll be able to deal that damage consistently (not to mention it's hard to miss the hits now), but what makes it really shine is having an offset attack and power clash on top of that. I watched an Arkveld speedrun of a greatsword user, he mostly used offset attacks and basically bullied the poor monster without even bothering with environmental damage, the fight was over in 5 minutes. I heard that tcs is getting buffed too so it'd be even crazier. Even if you mainly just counter the monsters, focus strikes allow you to use a tcs right away so you'll be throwing in a few of them in any fight easily.

And from my personal experience in the beta as a noob, I'm very relieved we have HBG... some people say it's slow and clunky or whatever but I don't see that. It's super easy, comfy and safe to use, you just continue shooting and things die fast. Especially with other hunters around, you won't get hit from the distance you shoot while the monster is busy. I'm sure it'll feel even better to use with weapon mods and an actual build with the ammo type you wanna use.
The shield on it is very helpful when needed too, you can go into power clash with it, or if you manage to use the offset attack it can save you as well although I find the offset attack of HBG weird so I'd prefer guarding and dodging with it and just continue shooting like there's no tomorrow. I also can't really recommend using the focus strike of HBG in ignition mode, it takes a little time to set it up and then charge and by then the monster may have moved enough for the shot to easily miss, the damage isn't impressive either, you can just use the ignition bar to turn your weapon into a machinegun. Somehow the weapon felt better to just focus on shooting all the time, shifting between ammoes and ignition mode, and throwing in some basic focus strikes when needed.

In any case, hammer felt funnier to use than other weapons and fun matters the most so there's that. I'd say overall HBG is the best and it's also fun to use imo. Though, greatsword would be epic if one can truly master the weapon and the fights, so it'll always be on my mind. I think these are my personal top three. Any weapon is cool ofcourse, if you like a weapon and manage to master it, you'll be doing great all the time.

[Kiririn]

HH of course.