1 hit KO Mizutsune is total BS

[Foe]

Capcom is just Capcom again, adding "new" stuff and overtuning it as always.

5 star Mizutsune 1 hit move is "lightning" fast and jumps from half the map to the other end just to do his cheap one hit, can't do anything about it if the player is stuck in an animation.

I just wanted to drop a boulder on Mizutsune, just as I was in the animation pulling it, Mizutsune jumps out of it killing me with his cheap one hit tail KO.

So there is nothing you can do to avoid that, player animations are just too long to avoid that attack.

Gear and buffs don't matter, I was fully buffed with maxed out gear (444 Def).
Not even a fireball in the face from zoh shia is that strong.

Just to be clear, I am not saying that the damage it does is a problem, no it's that you can't do anything about it once you are in a animation longer than 1 sec and they either have to turn down the damage or increase the animation.

[Tiniturtle]

u can also bulshjt mizu with ur dirty trick lol
use trap when it go soulrend mode and smash it head until it is out of that mode
mizu damage is crazy but it isnt elder dragon and still weak to trap like everything else

[アンジェル]

Originally posted by Foe:

1 hit KO Mizutsune is total BS
Capcom is just Capcom again, adding "new" stuff and overtuning it as always.

5 star Mizutsune 1 hit move is "lightning" fast and jumps from half the map to the other end just to do his cheap one hit, can't do anything about it if the player is stuck in an animation.

I just wanted to drop a boulder on Mizutsune, just as I was in the animation pulling it, Mizutsune jumps out of it killing me with his cheap one hit tail KO.

So there is nothing you can do to avoid that, player animations are just too long to avoid that attack.

Gear and buffs don't matter, I was fully buffed with maxed out gear (444 Def).
Not even a fireball in the face from zoh shia is that strong.

Just to be clear, I am not saying that the damage it does is a problem, no it's that you can't do anything about it once you are in a animation longer than 1 sec and they either have to turn down the damage or increase the animation.

Mizutsune cannot kill you in one hit. You must be missing something.

[Foe]

Originally posted by アンジェル:

Originally posted by Foe:

1 hit KO Mizutsune is total BS
Capcom is just Capcom again, adding "new" stuff and overtuning it as always.

5 star Mizutsune 1 hit move is "lightning" fast and jumps from half the map to the other end just to do his cheap one hit, can't do anything about it if the player is stuck in an animation.

I just wanted to drop a boulder on Mizutsune, just as I was in the animation pulling it, Mizutsune jumps out of it killing me with his cheap one hit tail KO.

So there is nothing you can do to avoid that, player animations are just too long to avoid that attack.

Gear and buffs don't matter, I was fully buffed with maxed out gear (444 Def).
Not even a fireball in the face from zoh shia is that strong.

Just to be clear, I am not saying that the damage it does is a problem, no it's that you can't do anything about it once you are in a animation longer than 1 sec and they either have to turn down the damage or increase the animation.

Mizutsune cannot kill you in one hit. You must be missing something.

Honestly, I thought the same, but Mizutsune can, at least 5 Star.

[ItsKindaWindy]

If you can't recognize its behaviour and its telegraph roar before the tail smash, you are the problem tbh xD

Learn the actual fight and Mizy become way easier within the 10th fight. Beside, people QQ because the game was too EZ, now they QQ because they are met with a slightly harder challenge...

[ArmedTerror]

That move can take off a good chunk of your health, but it shouldn't one hit you everytime. With upgraded ace armor I can take one of those hits from a tempered Mizu without carting. Try upgrading your armor or using a better set. The telegraph should be pretty obvious too and gives you enough time to dodge.

[ItsKindaWindy]

Originally posted by ArmedTerror:

That move can take off a good chunk of your health, but it shouldn't one hit you everytime. With upgraded ace armor I can take one of those hits from a tempered Mizu without carting. Try upgrading your armor or using a better set. The telegraph should be pretty obvious too and gives you enough time to dodge.

Also an other aspect of gear most ppl seem to over see is that Def can only carry you that far even if you have 450+ if your water resistance VS Mizu is like -18 But i don't think it should be a problem as most meta set doesn't have that much of a low elemental resistance overall.

[ArmedTerror]

Originally posted by ItsKindaWindy:

Originally posted by ArmedTerror:

That move can take off a good chunk of your health, but it shouldn't one hit you everytime. With upgraded ace armor I can take one of those hits from a tempered Mizu without carting. Try upgrading your armor or using a better set. The telegraph should be pretty obvious too and gives you enough time to dodge.

Also an other aspect of gear most ppl seem to over see is that Def can only carry you that far even if you have 450+ if your water resistance VS Mizu is like -18 But i don't think it should be a problem as most meta set doesn't have that much of a low elemental resistance overall.

Exactly. I think one of the major issues that is causing people to complain about these new monster fights is the lack of any gear optimization whatsoever. You don't even really need to focus on using meta gear that hard with the new monsters, but just have a basic understanding and utilization of the gear mechanics and being aware of what you are using and when.

[BigJ]

Rank 6 gear, barely 40% of my hp, nope.

[River Victor]

Fight dirty. There's nowhere stated that you have to fight clean. Use the traps, the environmental traps, the flashes you have, the flashes on the field, the vines. Shoot dung pods at it and shoot its back when it tries to leave. Hit it when it tries to kill critters. Lure it to a different monster, better yet, a stronger monster.

Avoid fighting in Wyveria, as that is so cancerously narrow.

[ItsKindaWindy]

Originally posted by BigJ:

Rank 6 gear, barely 40% of my hp, nope.

Keep in mind that only strength 5 tempered Mizu can 1 shot you. Unless you have stacked 25+ water res, you are unlikely to survive its tail attack. If you do, it will be with a sliver of health.

[Jaevwyn]

382 Defence. Hit that and you cant be oneshotted.

[Operatix]

Mizutsune is fast and hits hard and tbh it's how it should be, after fighting her many times I can fight her with much more ease so git gut dud. I don't remeber any Mizu one hitting me with full hp, and I'm playing glass canon. And I played a lot 5 star tempered ones.

[アンジェル]

Originally posted by Operatix:

Mizutsune is fast and hits hard and tbh it's how it should be, after fighting her many times I can fight her with much more ease so git gut dud. I don't remeber any Mizu one hitting me with full hp, and I'm playing glass canon. And I played a lot 5 star tempered ones.

I can only imagine a ranger might get hid hard, considering they normally get a malus on their melee defense. But then HBG has a shield, LBG is constantly on the move and Bow users have perfect dodge. So it is hard to think who might actually get one shot by that, provided the armour is upgraded normally how it should be.

And if fighting Mizutsune you also make sure to have a proper meal which protects you from getting one hit. Meal invitations also come all without exception with insurance, so it is forgiving if one player gets unlucky at times.

[lolschrauber]

Originally posted by Jaevwyn:

382 Defence. Hit that and you cant be oneshotted.

I've been 1shotted with slightly over 400.

[Jaevwyn]

Originally posted by lolschrauber:

Originally posted by Jaevwyn:

382 Defence. Hit that and you cant be oneshotted.

I've been 1shotted with slightly over 400.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWetUJTvzj0&ab_channel=WreckitRai

Looks like i misremebered, its 378. not sure what you would be doing differently, never been oneshotted above this value