Who though this was a good idea?

[Renegated Evrae]

With Mizutsune they made one of the best sets when it comes to critical builds... And added one of the worse passives to it.

Seriously, why TF did you add the Alluring Pelt passive to the set? If you want to do that allow us to get the bubbles with 2 items atleast, don't force the players to use 4 pieces and to be a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ target with legs, it's a good set when it comes to passives, but jesus, Alluring Pelt it's criminal, more considering that, if we want to have bubbles, therefore enabling the weapon's passive, we are forced to yes or yes have Alluring Pelt on us.

[NukaPooka]

Alluring Pelt is an ABSOLUTE BLAST.
Though it is designed for those who can tank/block such as you CB, Lances, SnS and GS.
Otherwise i just recommend running away when the monsters enraged.

[アンジェル]

Originally posted by Renegated Evrae:

Who though this was a good idea?
With Mizutsune they made one of the best sets when it comes to critical builds... And added one of the worse passives to it.

Seriously, why TF did you add the Alluring Pelt passive to the set? If you want to do that allow us to get the bubbles with 2 items atleast, don't force the players to use 4 pieces and to be a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ target with legs, it's a good set when it comes to passives, but jesus, Alluring Pelt it's criminal, more considering that, if we want to have bubbles, therefore enabling the weapon's passive, we are forced to yes or yes have Alluring Pelt on us.

It really does not matter in single player.

Originally posted by NukaPooka:

Alluring Pelt is an ABSOLUTE BLAST.
Though it is designed for those who can tank/block such as you CB, Lances, SnS and GS.
Otherwise i just recommend running away when the monsters enraged.

Dual Blades and Bow users are the better tanks thanks to their super dodge.

[Hanzo]

I find lot of skills/combinations for armor weapon look very bad. As if person who designed them never played the game.
For example Mizu weapon passive that gives you 19% affinity if you're under bubleblight. What person would fight Mizu with weapon that has Water element is beyond me.
Alpha sets are bad as well. In most of them Beta provide you exact or better empty slot for skill that in Alpha set. And most of alpha sets 'additional' skills are just bad

[Captain]

Originally posted by Hanzo:

I find lot of skills/combinations for armor weapon look very bad. As if person who designed them never played the game.
For example Mizu weapon passive that gives you 19% affinity if you're under bubleblight. What person would fight Mizu with weapon that has Water element is beyond me.
Alpha sets are bad as well. In most of them Beta provide you exact or better empty slot for skill that in Alpha set. And most of alpha sets 'additional' skills are just bad

Well, you can give yourself bubbleblight by having 4 Mizu pieces on. Whether it's worth doing I can't speak for, but you can do it.

[Hanzo]

Originally posted by Captain:

Originally posted by Hanzo:

I find lot of skills/combinations for armor weapon look very bad. As if person who designed them never played the game.
For example Mizu weapon passive that gives you 19% affinity if you're under bubleblight. What person would fight Mizu with weapon that has Water element is beyond me.
Alpha sets are bad as well. In most of them Beta provide you exact or better empty slot for skill that in Alpha set. And most of alpha sets 'additional' skills are just bad

Well, you can give yourself bubbleblight by having 4 Mizu pieces on. Whether it's worth doing I can't speak for, but you can do it.

Isn't that set says 'minor' bubbleblight ? Does it work with 'minor' version?

[del_bosque_dol]

vs Nu Udra, why not.

[{SLURP}Legion]

the weapon buff also works when your just wet from being in water and I assume also when its raining,

[Hanzo]

Originally posted by {SLURP}Legion:

the weapon buff also works when your just wet from being in water and I assume also when its raining,

Yes, but isn't it's pretty low, like 9% or something? I mean it feels pretty weak taking in account it needs additional effort/luck to trigger it

[Scooter]

Originally posted by Hanzo:

Originally posted by Captain:

Well, you can give yourself bubbleblight by having 4 Mizu pieces on. Whether it's worth doing I can't speak for, but you can do it.

Isn't that set says 'minor' bubbleblight ? Does it work with 'minor' version?

It does, but the "wet" condition is separate. That and 4 piece leaves very little in ways of flexibility. 3 piece would've made sense for the 2nd bonus tier considering the alluring pelt "debuff" skill is tied to 3 piece as well.

[Renegated Evrae]

Originally posted by {SLURP}Legion:

the weapon buff also works when your just wet from being in water and I assume also when its raining,

The idea it's being able to trigger the buff anytime, so you can combo Buff + Swimmer Food (boost atk when wet) + Coalescence to overbuff you, the problem it's what's mentioned before, in order to get the buff you need 4 pieces, 4 pieces = Alluring Pelt enabled.

And considering that we have no infinite stamina drink anymore, when doing an affinity based build we can't use certain weapons because most of the time we will be using Maximum Might, and Maximum Might + using stamina are a bad combo, so things like dual blades are discarted by default since the best part comes from enabling something that drains your stamina xD

[Renegated Evrae]

Originally posted by Scooter:

Originally posted by Hanzo:

Isn't that set says 'minor' bubbleblight ? Does it work with 'minor' version?

It does, but the "wet" condition is separate. That and 4 piece leaves very little in ways of flexibility. 3 piece would've made sense for the 2nd bonus tier considering the alluring pelt "debuff" skill is tied to 3 piece as well.

Would be good if we only needed 2 to enable the bubbles, and later on, if you want a bigger buff, then go for the 4 set combo, but also getting the alluring pelt in the process, forcing the players to have Alluring Pelt yes or yes it's a mistake xDD

[Hanzo]

Originally posted by Scooter:

Originally posted by Hanzo:

Isn't that set says 'minor' bubbleblight ? Does it work with 'minor' version?

It does, but the "wet" condition is separate. That and 4 piece leaves very little in ways of flexibility. 3 piece would've made sense for the 2nd bonus tier considering the alluring pelt "debuff" skill is tied to 3 piece as well.

Yes, I understand that wet is different condition. Thank you for clarifying about 'minor' bubbleblight. I thought they've added 'minor' to show that it won't work with the weapon.

Originally posted by Renegated Evrae:

Originally posted by Scooter:

It does, but the "wet" condition is separate. That and 4 piece leaves very little in ways of flexibility. 3 piece would've made sense for the 2nd bonus tier considering the alluring pelt "debuff" skill is tied to 3 piece as well.

Would be good if we only needed 2 to enable the bubbles, and later on, if you want a bigger buff, then go for the 4 set combo, but also getting the alluring pelt in the process, forcing the players to have Alluring Pelt yes or yes it's a mistake xDD

Yes, that would probably be great. 2 pieces = always wet condition, while 4 = always in bubbleblight. Not sure how 'evade' from skill works, but if you need to constantly roll it also sounds not fun.
I'm not sure that Alluring Pelt is debuff. Probably some weapons that could do 'power clash' via guarding benefit from it.

[del_bosque_dol]

As hidden attributes, 4 sets can give you Lv1 evasion window and Lv2 Constitution after evading a few times (incl. charge step).

Very useful for bow players even without mizutsune weapon.

[Renegated Evrae]

Originally posted by Hanzo:

Originally posted by Scooter:

It does, but the "wet" condition is separate. That and 4 piece leaves very little in ways of flexibility. 3 piece would've made sense for the 2nd bonus tier considering the alluring pelt "debuff" skill is tied to 3 piece as well.

Yes, I understand that wet is different condition. Thank you for clarifying about 'minor' bubbleblight. I thought they've added 'minor' to show that it won't work with the weapon.

Originally posted by Renegated Evrae:

Would be good if we only needed 2 to enable the bubbles, and later on, if you want a bigger buff, then go for the 4 set combo, but also getting the alluring pelt in the process, forcing the players to have Alluring Pelt yes or yes it's a mistake xDD

Yes, that would probably be great. 2 pieces = always wet condition, while 4 = always in bubbleblight. Not sure how 'evade' from skill works, but if you need to constantly roll it also sounds not fun.
I'm not sure that Alluring Pelt is debuff. Probably some weapons that could do 'power clash' via guarding benefit from it.

It's not "a debuff" as it is, essentially you are more likely to be targeted.

[Bono my tyres are gone]

huh? You want to use counter moves and alluring pelt makes sure you can do that consistently