PSA to those with "manual accepts" on SOS flares

[ArchfiendZero]

Look, i know you want to hunt with your support hunters, but people will join you if you shoot out flares with especially tempered rank 8 monsters. as a result you will receive notifications that there are hunter waiting to join the hunt, who will wait a long ass time. until they realise your dumbass won't accept their request 5 minutes later after (hopefully) properly prepping for said hunt. the following paragraph is in caps for emphasis

THERE IS A SETTINGS TAB ON TOP TO CHANGE WHO CAN JOIN YOUR HUNT WHEN YOU SHOOT AN SOS FLARE. CHANGE THAT TO SUPPORT HUNTERS ONLY AND SAVE US TIME LOOKING FOR HUNTS. AT THIS POINT WHEN PEOPLE MANAGE TO GET IN A HUNT OF A MONSTER THAT 90% ARE GOING TO JOIN WITHOUT A SECOND THOUGHT ONLY TO BE WALLED BY YOUR MANUAL ACCEPT BS. IT TENDS TO BE A DEFLATING EXPERIENCE.

thank you for your time, hunters! good hunting!

"the session is full and the hunt cannot be joined."

DAMMIT

[Dan]

The mental health problem is out of hand.

[Vexillarius]

Accidentally joining a manual group is the worst. They always accept me but i'm just gonna immediately leave anyway because you made we wait for like 30 seconds. Manual accept groups just signals that your so trash at the game you cant even carry randoms.

[ominumi]

Hey there, I've waited 5 minutes for people to join but no one did. I'm busy fighting the monster at the moment. Just give me a minute or two for me to get away so I can accept your request.

[Mikebeez]

Publicado originalmente por Vexillarius:

Accidentally joining a manual group is the worst. They always accept me but i'm just gonna immediately leave anyway because you made we wait for like 30 seconds. Manual accept groups just signals that your so trash at the game you cant even carry randoms.

Honestly I kind of agree, as toxic as it may be. Out of the hundreds of auto accept SoS's I've responded to, I can think of maybe like only 2 that have resulted in failure. Of those 2, pretty sure all of the carts have been the result of only one trash person in those failed hunts. So yeah, if you have to manual accept it pretty much means you're worried about getting that hard carry you need.

[Khergit Horse Archer]

i would filter manual sos if i could

[Emerald Lance]

Publicado originalmente por ominumi:

Hey there, I've waited 5 minutes for people to join but no one did. I'm busy fighting the monster at the moment. Just give me a minute or two for me to get away so I can accept your request.

That's fair. But I'd like to counter your position with a question: if you're wanting people to join, then why make it so that you have to take the time to manually accept instead of just letting them join automatically? It definitely hurts the experience of the person attempting to join when they have to wait for another person to confirm a prompt or wade through a menu, especially if you're too busy fighting something to actually do it, so I'm curious if the benefit on your side to having it be manual is worth it for all parties involved.

For my 2 cents, I have pretty much no patience for SOS sessions where I have to wait for the host to manually accept me joining. The only reasons I've heard in World for people setting it to manual was so they could check the gear of each person trying to join, usually to weed out either obvious cheaters (totally fair if a bit obnoxious for legit players trying to join) or non-meta builds (which is a bunch of insecure ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥). At that point, I'd rather just start my own hunt and shoot up my own flair for how much quicker it'd be. I'm not trying to play with back seat gamers anyway.

If your reason is different from that, then I'd genuinely love to read it. I still probably won't sit around and wait for a manual SOS guy to accept my join attempt, but I'm open to hearing new ideas regardless.

[Gamefever]

Instant leave.

Anyway have you tried hunting monsters one after another in the actual world space,
it is fun from time to time.

[Eric]

Publicado originalmente por Khergit Horse Archer:

i would filter manual sos if i could

You can if you're willing to use mods.

[Fiesbert]

Publicado originalmente por ArchfiendZero:

Look, i know you want to hunt with your support hunters, but people will join you if you shoot out flares with especially tempered rank 8 monsters. as a result you will receive notifications that there are hunter waiting to join the hunt, who will wait a long ass time. until they realise your dumbass won't accept their request 5 minutes later after (hopefully) properly prepping for said hunt. the following paragraph is in caps for emphasis

THERE IS A SETTINGS TAB ON TOP TO CHANGE WHO CAN JOIN YOUR HUNT WHEN YOU SHOOT AN SOS FLARE. CHANGE THAT TO SUPPORT HUNTERS ONLY AND SAVE US TIME LOOKING FOR HUNTS. AT THIS POINT WHEN PEOPLE MANAGE TO GET IN A HUNT OF A MONSTER THAT 90% ARE GOING TO JOIN WITHOUT A SECOND THOUGHT ONLY TO BE WALLED BY YOUR MANUAL ACCEPT BS. IT TENDS TO BE A DEFLATING EXPERIENCE.

thank you for your time, hunters! good hunting!

"the session is full and the hunt cannot be joined."

DAMMIT

You can filter quests with manual acceptance out

[アンジェル]

Publicado originalmente por Fiesbert:

Publicado originalmente por ArchfiendZero:

Look, i know you want to hunt with your support hunters, but people will join you if you shoot out flares with especially tempered rank 8 monsters. as a result you will receive notifications that there are hunter waiting to join the hunt, who will wait a long ass time. until they realise your dumbass won't accept their request 5 minutes later after (hopefully) properly prepping for said hunt. the following paragraph is in caps for emphasis

THERE IS A SETTINGS TAB ON TOP TO CHANGE WHO CAN JOIN YOUR HUNT WHEN YOU SHOOT AN SOS FLARE. CHANGE THAT TO SUPPORT HUNTERS ONLY AND SAVE US TIME LOOKING FOR HUNTS. AT THIS POINT WHEN PEOPLE MANAGE TO GET IN A HUNT OF A MONSTER THAT 90% ARE GOING TO JOIN WITHOUT A SECOND THOUGHT ONLY TO BE WALLED BY YOUR MANUAL ACCEPT BS. IT TENDS TO BE A DEFLATING EXPERIENCE.

thank you for your time, hunters! good hunting!

"the session is full and the hunt cannot be joined."

DAMMIT

You can filter quests with manual acceptance out

That does not address the problem.

[RedKellBell]

I had manual acceptance turned on by accident when I was rushing through the settings. It happens. Which leads to to another theory on why it takes so long:

When in combat, it's virtually impossible to access the menu in a decent time frame without getting glomped by the monster, or having to run away to a new area without being chased, etc. I remember there being a pop-up alert window on the right, that disappears in 5 seconds (similar to quest results minimized window that you can expand) but aside from using the seikret and trying to make heads or tails of what's going on and HOPING your noble stead will dodge the attacks (good luck with arkveld when it's raging), it's genuinely a pain in the back end trying to search for it. They need to make a simple screen to the right that says the following:

Hunter "X" would like to join the hunt:
Name - Hunter ID - HR Weapons:
Times played with: Platform:

Then we would have an accept or decline option similar to the window opening buttons on quest complete mini windows. Not a game or UI designer but that's what I'd want. And for pity's sake! DO NOT. HAVE. IT. MINIMIZED. Have the window stay open for around 10-15 seconds before it auto declines. That's enough time to absorb information, hit accept or decline, all the while keeping an eye on the monster. Also not having the quest joiner left hanging.

I have a love hate relationship with the UI as you can tell.

[Scipo0419]

Publicado originalmente por ArchfiendZero:

*snip*

Instead of using caps for emphasis, use bolded font, like so:

There is a settings tab on top to change who can join your hunt when you shoot an SOS flare. Change that to support hunters only and save us time looking for hunts. At this point, when people manage to get into a hunt of a monster, 90% are going to join without a second thought, only to be walled by your manual accept process. It tends to be a deflating experience.

You could go a step further and use the different heading formats, h1, h2, and h3:

h1:

There is a settings tab on top to change who can join your hunt when you shoot an SOS flare. Change that to support hunters only and save us time looking for hunts. At this point, when people manage to get into a hunt of a monster, 90% are going to join without a second thought, only to be walled by your manual accept process. It tends to be a deflating experience.

h2:

There is a settings tab on top to change who can join your hunt when you shoot an SOS flare. Change that to support hunters only and save us time looking for hunts. At this point, when people manage to get into a hunt of a monster, 90% are going to join without a second thought, only to be walled by your manual accept process. It tends to be a deflating experience.

h3:

There is a settings tab on top to change who can join your hunt when you shoot an SOS flare. Change that to support hunters only and save us time looking for hunts. At this point, when people manage to get into a hunt of a monster, 90% are going to join without a second thought, only to be walled by your manual accept process. It tends to be a deflating experience.

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Proper formatting provides a proper punch for your purpose.

[DeeTeez]

cant you also just put a horn in your 2nd weapon slot?

[ominumi]

Publicado originalmente por Emerald Lance:

Publicado originalmente por ominumi:

Hey there, I've waited 5 minutes for people to join but no one did. I'm busy fighting the monster at the moment. Just give me a minute or two for me to get away so I can accept your request.

That's fair. But I'd like to counter your position with a question: if you're wanting people to join, then why make it so that you have to take the time to manually accept instead of just letting them join automatically? It definitely hurts the experience of the person attempting to join when they have to wait for another person to confirm a prompt or wade through a menu, especially if you're too busy fighting something to actually do it, so I'm curious if the benefit on your side to having it be manual is worth it for all parties involved.

For my 2 cents, I have pretty much no patience for SOS sessions where I have to wait for the host to manually accept me joining. The only reasons I've heard in World for people setting it to manual was so they could check the gear of each person trying to join, usually to weed out either obvious cheaters (totally fair if a bit obnoxious for legit players trying to join) or non-meta builds (which is a bunch of insecure ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥). At that point, I'd rather just start my own hunt and shoot up my own flair for how much quicker it'd be. I'm not trying to play with back seat gamers anyway.

If your reason is different from that, then I'd genuinely love to read it. I still probably won't sit around and wait for a manual SOS guy to accept my join attempt, but I'm open to hearing new ideas regardless.

Because I don't want some random player come into my hunt then OHKO the monster. I'm okay with failing and struggling the hunt. It's just part of the learning process. Just by looking at gear, I can tell whose a hacker with very particular jewels.

[The Debauchery]

Generally it seems easier to just let everyone in and kick out anyone who is an active liability... unless you're right in the middle of the hunt, I suppose.
In that case I just add players to the block list after the hunt.
So far every single player on my block list is a Longsworder... It might be coincidence, but every single utterly toxic player I've ran into has been wielding Longsword. Just as it was in Rise... and World... For a while in Rise I got into the habit of just kicking all Longsworders from hunts the moment they showed up. I just didn't have the patience to even give them the benefit of the doubt.