MHW woke? no, it is not, just no... prove me wrong

[sadmax98]

I don't understand people saying they won't play because there is woke content, I played other MH, I played the beta, I saw several trailers, interviews, gameplays, I simply didn't find any of that, in reality I feel that MH goes well against the woke agenda

[Googledebunker]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Riptor:

For ♥♥♥♥♥ sake people... "woke" is active messaging and lecturing, looking down on the player and "teaching" them to accept the lord and savior eternal progressiveism, it tells the audience that they are bad and unworthy and that they have to accept "THE MESSAGE" That no criticism or different viewpoint then that of the author is allowed and that if you dont like it youre not worthy of being called a human being anymore.

Having people of different skincolor and/or sexual preferences in on itselfe is NOT woke.. especially in a world setting like monsterhunter that has alot of travel systems including friggin airships wich means theres alot of cultural exchanges going on, alot of people get around, and unlike our world there doesnt seem to be different religions that say you have to murder each other either.

So no.. Monster hunter is not woke. Options arent "woke". Messaging is.. and so far monster hunter has not tried to sell me propaganda.

They talk about diversity several times, how strong women are, in addition to having a diverse cast of characters. You're simply wrong. It's woke and it's awesome, get over it.

[MelvinSmiley]

People searching for "woke" in games are braindead anyway. Best way forward is just to completely ignore them.

[SCIM]

I thought woke was just a word racists/sexists use now as some kind of dog whistle. The literal meaning is, what, past tense of awake? I have a weapon that puts monsters to sleep. That doesn't sound very woke to me. And don't even get me started on capture missions.

[SirusTheMadDJ]

Still waiting for the group that boycotted the game for removing Deviljho's butthole.

[DaxiraxJr]

You're feeding into the trolls pretty well. They go to just about every forum and complain about it being woke. I suggest learning to ignore people.

[Vamrem]

Opprinnelig skrevet av WastingSanity:

Opprinnelig skrevet av Vamrem:

I only was to have a normal experience. Remember Baldur's Gate with a female character which hate men, actively, misandry, and no one cares, because she is also aligned with evil, is like a racist or anything else. Woke is, in my interpretation, when you force many social things out of context, use activist language, like in Veilguard, the world is being destroying and your companion just start a talk about ^^how special^^ he is, teaching what a binary is, etc.

DAV is on the extreme end of woke.

The normalization of the abnormal is what woke is trying to achieve. Making the subculture the greater culture.

So what is normal? Normal is anything that 50+% of what the population is, does, etc. What is abnormal, anything that is below 50% of the population. This varies from country to country. But in every country, what is abnormal is that subculture. Only in entertainment are we seeing this artificial push that over represents that subculture.

It wasn't artificial until recent years and that was when everyone saw a dramatic shift in entertainment. White man bad, diversity push, etc. aka The Message.

This is my thread in which I achieve to solve my doubts, according what woke is:

https://steamcommunity.com/app/2246340/discussions/0/596268134575436994/?tscn=1740810214

I will make it much easier:

A) Woke. >>> Pronouns. Resentment of European culture. Dumb men. Girl bosses. Bechdel tested. Forced women ugliness. Body positive. Un-women.

B) Not woke but tries to respect it. >>> Careful to not offend with things as natural as "male - female". Ambiguous characters. Out of context diversity.

C) Normal. >>> Zero interests in show their moral superiority with new invented problems.

D) Makes woke crowd cry. >>> Mok on pronouns. Gorgeous women in bikini armor! Hiper masculinity! Yey! :D

Seems Monster Hunter has few of B, try to stay on C, but having a lot of D?

[hush]

Opprinnelig skrevet av WastingSanity:

It is a bit woke.

Cross dressing and you can make a female character with beard. Also when you go to the forest, they say diversity 2 twice within a rather short amount of time. Other words could have easily been used like variety, assortment, variation, different, etc.

The devs lay on the virtue signaling on a little thick while sacrificing the writing. Not like Monster Hunter was known for their compelling writing but you get the idea.

In an attempt to counter balance it, the devs show off sex appeal in the game and avoid making the female npcs along with the default female character creations manly. Which has become common in woke games.

So it is a bit of a mixed bag but heavily leans left.

Those that just want sex appeal and good game play will say the game isn't woke. Choosing to willfully ignore the problem. Those that would prefer no woke in their game will have an issue with it.

it's not a bit. it's woke af. disappointed in you buying this woke product

[WastingSanity]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Vamrem:

This is my thread in which I achieve to solve my doubts, according what woke is:

https://steamcommunity.com/app/2246340/discussions/0/596268134575436994/?tscn=1740810214

I will make it much easier:

A) Woke. >>> Pronouns. Resentment of European culture. Dumb men. Girl bosses. Bechdel tested. Forced women ugliness. Body positive. Un-women.

B) Not woke but tries to respect it. >>> Careful to not offend with things as natural as "male - female". Ambiguous characters. Out of context diversity.

C) Normal. >>> Zero interests in show their moral superiority with new invented problems.

D) Makes woke crowd cry. >>> Mok on pronouns. Gorgeous women in bikini armor! Hiper masculinity! Yey! :D

Seems Monster Hunter has few of B, try to stay on C, but having a lot of D?

A dash of sex appeal does not make up for the pandering we are seeing. The story was pretty consistent at ripping the immersion from me. MHWorld did not do that.

Opprinnelig skrevet av hush:

it's not a bit. it's woke af. disappointed in you buying this woke product

I started with sarcasm and then dropped the facts. As someone that loved MHWorld, I needed to see the story for MHWilds to determine just how bad they pander. Now I know and now I can warn others with details/red flags in the game.

If 2+ others decided to not purchase the game because of my warning then it balances out and becomes a net positive.

[[EXDr] Frank]

It doesn't really look woke to me, but I still won't buy it just on principle because of the "body type" ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥... Its male and female, stop pretending otherwise. There are literally a couple hundred thousand genuine diagnosed trans people in the world. It is absurd that game devs wastw so much time pandering to this tiny slice of mankind (most of whom will never play your game anyways) while ignoring much bigger demographic groups.

[Velber]

Opprinnelig skrevet av EXDr Frank:

It doesn't really look woke to me, but I still won't buy it just on principle because of the "body type" ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥... Its male and female, stop pretending otherwise. There are literally a couple hundred thousand genuine diagnosed trans people in the world. It is absurd that game devs wastw so much time pandering to this tiny slice of mankind (most of whom will never play your game anyways) while ignoring much bigger demographic groups.

lol so emotional over a phrase
thats life bud, get used to it or get over it

[Toez]

It's less woke, but still woke, it alludes to certain sensibilities covertly, but its not that covert. It still lectures you. You all know this though, it's no secret. The gaslighters will just be like "hurp derp, idk what you mean lolololsss." I suspect topic owner is just baiting like the rest though. Anyone who says "Prove me wrong" on here will argue conjecture until they die of suffocation or an aneurysm.

[MeteoImpact]

MH has always been the wokest of games. Look at the monsters. Silver Rathalos? GOLD Rathian? Women > men? Peak woke.