how im suposed to survive mizutsune spinning tail attack?

[HEVnaham]

it happens in an instant and it has literally just one sound clue before it happens, no wind up, also for some bizarre reason the timing of the attack is all over the place, sometimes is so fast there is no human way to react and sometimes is just normal, i dont get it how am i suposed to fight this thing it really feels like at nergigante and its ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ insta kill insta mini dive bomb, the rest of the moveset is really simple but is that specific attack that i cant get the timing of it, is like it happens randomly, is there a visual clue or something im missing?

[del_bosque_dol]

Simple answer: Yes

You can evade horizontally, so that Mizutsune misses.

[El Macho]

Dodge sideways. Works everytime.

[Gamefever]

On sword and shield as well as Lance, I just block it.

I've done the fight on non-tempored with a bow but man the dodging causes my left hand to seize up for some reason, so I take some over the counter modification medicine for that.

[HEVnaham]

Originally posted by El Macho:

Dodge sideways. Works everytime.

Originally posted by del_bosque_dol:

Simple answer: Yes

You can evade horizontally, so that Mizutsune misses.

i assume you guys are playing dual blades or sns, is not as easy as just presing evade and sideways, the animation cooldown is really high with some attacks and you are stuck for a whole second before the character can start moving again, that is the exact same amount of time it takes to get instantly deleted by that attack, im playing longsword switch axe and sns, the only playable weapon for this fight is the sns and only as far as i dont try to make a slow combo, with switch axe is a gamble every single time, if you want to do damage u have to do ur discharge and even if the monster is ko in the ground you are still at risk of instakill the attack takes waaay to long to end, and longsword is think the weapon with the highest input delay in the entire game, is desperating how my character takes a whole second to do one move....

i will just assume is a gamble if i dont use a light weapon.

[Jay_square]

as Mr.Miyagi would say "Best block...no be there."

[アンジェル]

Originally posted by HEVnaham:

how im suposed to survive mizutsune spinning tail attack?
it happens in an instant and it has literally just one sound clue before it happens, no wind up, also for some bizarre reason the timing of the attack is all over the place, sometimes is so fast there is no human way to react and sometimes is just normal, i dont get it how am i suposed to fight this thing it really feels like at nergigante and its ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ insta kill insta mini dive bomb, the rest of the moveset is really simple but is that specific attack that i cant get the timing of it, is like it happens randomly, is there a visual clue or something im missing?

Incorrect. It has also a visual cue and altogether is around one second after a certain set of moves. So you can easily anticipate it.

Plus, the move cannot "insta kill". If you die from it instantly, you are missing something - either regarding buffs or upgrades for your armour.

[Rogue_Zephyr]

Depending on your weapon, you may need to evade sideways or block if your weapon allows it. I've tested getting hit by the tail slam and if you have some decent defense buffs you won't get one shotted. Also make sure your armor is fully upgraded because a lot of people don't do this, especially new players. I would just be ready to dodge as soon as it does a flurry of attacks but sometimes its random.

[Gaidax]

Dodge

[Foe]

Originally posted by Gaidax:

Dodge

DO (d) GE /fixed

[Razaah !!!!]

Block, offset or counter otherwise dodge.

Keep in mind that the hitbox is garbage. It is a tail slam but you take the same damage along all of mizutsunes body and its hitbox is a bit wider than the model.

If you are below 400 defense it will kill you. Above 400 you may barely survive from full health.
Its probably the hardest hitting attack currently in the game until arch tempered rey dau.

[HEVnaham]

Originally posted by Razaah !!!!:

Block, offset or counter otherwise dodge.

Keep in mind that the hitbox is garbage. It is a tail slam but you take the same damage along all of mizutsunes body and its hitbox is a bit wider than the model.

If you are below 400 defense it will kill you. Above 400 you may barely survive from full health.
Its probably the hardest hitting attack currently in the game until arch tempered rey dau.

so im aproaching this fight the wrong way, this is pretty much as hard as an arch tempered monster, i need defense ok i guess this is a problem fixed, i killed it a lot with the sns and its really rng if mizu starts spaming the tail attack or not, sometimes it does it once or twice per hunt and sometimes is the full fight spaming it.

[Mechanique]

When you see HP bar shaking, press and hold the block button.
If you play with the weapon that can't block, git gud and learn to dodge / dive-evade.

[Zerostrikesback]

When you dont know how to make a game difficult, you set flags on the player so when they commit to an attack that leaves them vulnerable, the monsters instantly know to position and react to catch you in a moment where you cannot react.

The problem isn't that the monster spams the attack until it connects, the problem is that unless you avoid using attacks that require you to commit you will continue to be punished for it.

Pretty much all the monsters use this, Mizutsune I guess was just the first to really press you (or spam its tail attack back to back)

[Redeyeflight]

If you're having trouble evading this attack try specing for Evade Window + Evade Extension.
You can also bring a shielded weapon with Guard + Guard Up to block it.