tired of the same meta armor builds?

[Discipline Daddy]

ME TOO! always a gore or veld type build. anyone got some great ideas? i saw someone with wide range/ mushroom/ speed eating/ free meal/ flayer focus set that inspired me. the idea that they werent damage focused---

[edit] super happy for everyone thats participated in this discussion, thank you

[Helmic]

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In World/Icebonre it was pretty small since you could pour everything into DPS, and so everyone poured everything into DPS.

I won't touch about Iceborne since it's an unfair comparison.

We could sport more builds in base World and Rise. For example if we want to make a full critical element build in Wilds, we would already be using 2 level-3 slots just to slot in Dragon and Critical Element. Add Razor Sharp and we've already run out of slots to put Guard, Guard Up, Sonorous, Charge, Critical Boost, Critical Eye, Attack Boost, etc.

But you then have a ton of armor slots that aren't competing for the same spot as Attack Boost, where you can for example have Antivirus running. A lot of the ones you're talking about there are just number fiddlers, things that almost objectively have a best value, while a lot of the armor skills are conditionals that actually impact your playstyle. Critical Boost and Attack Boost might as well just be the same skill for all the impact they have on your actual playstyle, those are not meaningful build variety, and Critical Element isn't really that far behind.

If anything, the limited number of weapon slots means that you're far more likely to actually make a meaningful decision between what you pick as you can't get everything you could want all at once, you might even swap weapons. Bucketing skills into two different categories means we're seeing combinations that simply wouldn't be considered in World.

[tag545]

you don't need anj anymore with the change to max might. the buffer timer on stamina usage doesn't go down anymore so you can roll or tackle without losing max might as long as you let it recover to max between each roll.

speed runners use gimmick builds that only works well for short hunts. example the agitator focus. it works best only when most of the hunt has the monster enraged. if the fight takes too long it gets beat by other skills.

the meta for general use tends to give a bit more freedom. gore still takes priority but you can swap the other pieces around to get what you want. the only weapons that really need to stick to the meta are the deco hungry builds like element absorb dragon db. the difference between a good build and average is noticeable.

for everything else just start with zoh head, chest. g ark hands. gor waist and legs and work from there. the gor skill can be annoying so i swap that out when Im just goofing around.

[Nefarious Slurp]

Lancers/funlancers laugh at meta.

[Helmic]

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you don't need anj anymore with the change to max might. the buffer timer on stamina usage doesn't go down anymore so you can roll or tackle without losing max might as long as you let it recover to max between each roll.

speed runners use gimmick builds that only works well for short hunts. example the agitator focus. it works best only when most of the hunt has the monster enraged. if the fight takes too long it gets beat by other skills.

the meta for general use tends to give a bit more freedom. gore still takes priority but you can swap the other pieces around to get what you want. the only weapons that really need to stick to the meta are the deco hungry builds like element absorb dragon db. the difference between a good build and average is noticeable.

for everything else just start with zoh head, chest. g ark hands. gor waist and legs and work from there. the gor skill can be annoying so i swap that out when Im just goofing around.

On GS it makes a pretty big difference, as MM doesn't drop when you tackle. You can also easily roll, tackle, swing, and then TCS with MM up. It's a very nice buff to MM uptime, and is also just nice considering the GS's moveset overall does much more damage now and isn't all tied to TCS.

[jimeh]

Yeah, armor damage stuff has no quality of life. I much prefer things you can feel like speed eating. Here's a build I've been playing recently. I didn't put much thought into it, would be interested to hear ideas to improve it while keeping much the same comfy stuff.

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edit: Works for any weapon, mostly been using zoa greatsword with it with 1 gem of crit draw.

The decorations are lik 3 sheath, 3 earplugs, 2 speed eating, 1 brace, 1 divine

[Ravness01]

I don't follow metas, so incoming bad build, lol. What I use:
Sns-Viperpine Saber
LBG-Valkyrie Flame
Numinous Crown B
Artian Mail A
Numinous Vambraces B
Numinous Overlay B
Numinous Greaves B
Blessing Charm III
Evasion Mantle

Skill wise:
Super Recovery II(zoh shia set bonus)
Ward of Wyveria(also from zoh shia set bonus)
Mind's Eye lv3
Punishing Draw lv3
Guard Up lv3
Crit Draw lv2
Handicraft lv1
Guard lv1
Agitator lv3
Divine Blessing lv3
Recovery up lv3
Recovery speed lv3
Elemental Absorption lv3
Dragon Res lv2
Burst lv1
Flayer lv1
Counterstrike lv1
Fire res lv1
Coalescence lv1
Evade extender lv1
Earpugs lv1
Adaptability lv1
Shock Absorber lv1

If running with friends i ditch a fire res and dragon res deco to slot in 1 level of wide range and mushroommancer to toss some clutch heals to prevent carts, but above is what i use for solo/SoS play.

Obviously not optimized, and definitely not "meta," haven't ran into anything it can't easily kill tho, i just have a bit longer hunt times is all.

[Mushy]

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[weirdkid5]

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My Mushroom SNS

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Check mine out above. I recommend trying to run the Inspiration group bonus with it, as it'll let you get more raw attack when you use the buffs/heals.

Mine is more geared towards damage though, with Offensive Guard slotted in, but still having full wide-range, mushroom, free meal and also speed eating.

[Bisexual Lion's Pride.tar.bz2]

on lance, i run guard 3, guard up 3, offensive guard 2, constitution 4, stamina surge 3, marathon runner 3, partbreaker 3, and resentment 2, and it's super fun. it allows me to powerguard early when i'm still learning a monster and ease into it if i am unsure how and when it will hit.

always shield, never die. powerguard and hit hard. plus grand retribution feels so good.

[dragnorok]

I do not use any. I just rock the Hope "a" set.

[dmXD]

maybe you should consider avoiding the using a keyboard to type "meta" (so cringe) and make your posts with a Wii remote. so unique, very individual.

[Redeyeflight]

Why would you rob yourself of the experimentation experience of coming up with your own builds by copying someone else?

If you have to copy someone else does that mean you suck at the game?

I mean it doesn't matter if you suck. That's fine. It's a chill game and I'll carry if I have to, but if you're using someone else's build didn't that person just play half the game for you?

Asking for a friend.

[Discipline Daddy]

Първоначално публикувано от Redeyeflight:

Why would you rob yourself of the experimentation experience of coming up with your own builds by copying someone else?

If you have to copy someone else does that mean you suck at the game?

I mean it doesn't matter if you suck. That's fine. It's a chill game and I'll carry if I have to, but if you're using someone else's build didn't that person just play half the game for you?

Asking for a friend.

i make my own, i listen and note others' which is also part of the experience, you ♥♥♥♥.

[Discipline Daddy]

Първоначално публикувано от dmXD:

maybe you should consider avoiding the using a keyboard to type "meta" (so cringe) and make your posts with a Wii remote. so unique, very individual.

shut up

[The Debauchery]

I have no idea what the "meta" is, but I mostly just wear Gore Magala gear anyway because the set bonus is too good to ignore. And sadly there is no incentive for me to ever wear anything else (at least until the next update that adds a set with better skills) because the division between armour skills and weapon skills has made it so all the skills that actually make a difference to particular weapons have to go ON the weapons themselves.... leaving the armour full of skills that apply equally to everything, and so never ever change. Wilds has killed build diversity.