the hinted eldar dragon?

[Rasjel]

at the end of the game some charackters discus that there have to be something realy strong. and thats the reason the old ones createt zoa shia. so waht are your gueses waht it will be.
regardless what it was i bet we have to fight it now that we have removed the one thing that could stop it.

[LonesomeSparrow]

probably fatalis, as usual when a civilisation gets nuked

[Nihrahk]

Considering that they needed to create an amalgamation of Elder Dragons to stop it, I'd imagine that it will be black dragon level. I don't think it will be a returning Elder Dragon though, but a new one.

[Unlucky]

All the talk about Zoh Shia is before High Rank quests (which is after the credits).
You still have over half of the game (High-Rank quests) after that. So Zoh Shia is basically just the intro to the game...

Finishing the whole game should answer your questions. Or if not, you should at least be able to piece things together at that point.

Edit: And no, it wasn't an Elder Dragon.

[Turel]

Originally posted by Rasjel:

at the end of the game some charackters discus that there have to be something realy strong. and thats the reason the old ones createt zoa shia. so waht are your gueses waht it will be.
regardless what it was i bet we have to fight it now that we have removed the one thing that could stop it.

Zoh, Shia if you didn't notice copies some moves from all the different versions of Fatalis basic, Crimson and White Fatalis. Also some movies from Safi , Alatreon and Gaismagorm. Also are hunter during the fight acknowledges this fact about the Fatalis copied abilities "That must mean... No, There's no way" Does this mean this hunter has dealt with Fatalis before or at lead read info about the dragon who knows.

Plus the some of the Fatalis theme from Iceborn is integrated into the track on the 2nd phase. Also could be a new Blackdragon who knows we will have to wait and see

[Raz]

Originally posted by Turel:

Zoh, Shia if you didn't notice copies some moves from all the different versions of Fatalis basic, Crimson and White Fatalis.

Someone doing a lore video has pointed out that Zoh Shia also, once its armor breaks, looks like a Fatalis who's regeneration power has turned tumorous from excess regeneration due to Wyvern Milk accelerating the ability.

[Unlucky]

Originally posted by Turel:

Also are hunter during the fight acknowledges this fact about the Fatalis copied abilities "That must mean... No, There's no way"

I'm having a hard time believing that the cutscenes were referring to literally anything but Gore Magala... It pretty much wraps up the entire story, honestly.

However, I did notice this voice line you mention and I couldn't really make sense of it.... So there may be more to the references than just GM. Oh well... for all we know, Wyveria made Zoh Shia to protect themselves from literally every other dragon on the planet. *shrug*

[hotaru251]

Originally posted by LonesomeSparrow:

probably fatalis, as usual when a civilization gets nuked

given the thing literally had attacks from all 3 forms of fatalis and it has void eyes as well as stance & extremely long tail like them....and guardian monsters are made from genes of living monsters...

It likely from Fatalis genetics and that is why it destroyed em (as fatalis's lore is its about only "evil" monster as it hates humans and that humans how wear gear made from fatalis parts eventually disappear and/or become fatalis due to its undying grudge and regenerative properties.

also people assuming the player hunter has encountered a fatalis in past adn why them say what they say when they see the black body under the armor.

[Raz]

Originally posted by Unlucky:

Originally posted by Turel:

Also are hunter during the fight acknowledges this fact about the Fatalis copied abilities "That must mean... No, There's no way"

I'm having a hard time believing that the cutscenes were referring to literally anything but Gore Magala... It pretty much wraps up the entire story, honestly.

However, I did notice this voice line you mention and I couldn't really make sense of it.... So there may be more to the references than just GM. Oh well... for all we know, Wyveria made Zoh Shia to protect themselves from literally every other dragon on the planet. *shrug*

There is nothing in Zoh Shia's fight that hints at Gore Magalia. There is no Frenzy present at all but there is Zoh uses all three attacks of the various Fatalis and as others have pointed out, part of Fatalis theme from Iceborne is in the 2nd phase of Zoh's fight.

[Grr. [SG CMD] Majah Lazah]

Originally posted by Unlucky:

Originally posted by Turel:

Also are hunter during the fight acknowledges this fact about the Fatalis copied abilities "That must mean... No, There's no way"

I'm having a hard time believing that the cutscenes were referring to literally anything but Gore Magala... It pretty much wraps up the entire story, honestly.

However, I did notice this voice line you mention and I couldn't really make sense of it.... So there may be more to the references than just GM. Oh well... for all we know, Wyveria made Zoh Shia to protect themselves from literally every other dragon on the planet. *shrug*

Fatalis theme literally plays during the Zoh fight as he begins to transform into a "black dragon"

[Turel]

Originally posted by Unlucky:

Originally posted by Turel:

Also are hunter during the fight acknowledges this fact about the Fatalis copied abilities "That must mean... No, There's no way"

I'm having a hard time believing that the cutscenes were referring to literally anything but Gore Magala... It pretty much wraps up the entire story, honestly.

However, I did notice this voice line you mention and I couldn't really make sense of it.... So there may be more to the references than just GM. Oh well... for all we know, Wyveria made Zoh Shia to protect themselves from literally every other dragon on the planet. *shrug*

The thing that came to mind was they must of read reports of the hunter from the new world who battled Fatalis. But if that is the case they wouldn't of know about how Crimson and White version's fight or there abilities . As we all know White Fatalis was the one who wiped out the king of Schrade.

It's very strange maybe Zoh Shia was turning to variant,deviant or subspecies of Fatalis it wouldn't shock me at this point

[Rasjel]

yeah gore comes after zoa but that doesnt mean he is stronger. at least not by lore.
i dont think they build him only to fend of a gore.
would rather think gore only apears because zoa is gone.

also have someone noticed zoa´s wings are more like that of gore and not that of fatalis.

[Scipo0419]

Honestly, seeing that Zoh Shia looks somewhat similar to Gore Magala (covered eyes, antennae when enraged, hands on wings) my guess is the Elder they're referring to could be Shagaru. Might also be a new elder. Zho Shia also exhibits and and fire attacks though which obviously Gore/Shagaru do not have.

Edit: I felt like the elemental attacks seemed similar to Fatalis and it seems like they're based on Iceborne Fatalis, Crimson Fatalis, and White Fatalis.

[ᔑᓭ∴ᔑリ⊣]

I don't think zoh shia is an amalgamation of fatalis, i think its a brand new black dragon that we possibly-killed before it could finish transforming, none of the other constructs are amalgamations of multiple monsters either. And i also think its very lazy to think everything is just boiling down to fatalis fatalis fatalis. i wish people would stop obsessing over the damn thing already tbh.
"Fatalis destroyed the entire ancient civilisation out of anger and spite in a single night and is completely immortal and invincible and is the strongest monster in the WHOLE series!!"
"Ah but these guys managed to extract DNA from every single variant of fatalis and smoosh them all together into a chimeric monstrosity somehow!"
Uh, no, I dont think so.

[Hollow-Enigma]

Originally posted by ᔑᓭ∴ᔑリ⊣:

I don't think zoh shia is an amalgamation of fatalis, i think its a brand new black dragon that we possibly-killed before it could finish transforming, none of the other constructs are amalgamations of multiple monsters either. And i also think its very lazy to think everything is just boiling down to fatalis fatalis fatalis. i wish people would stop obsessing over the damn thing already tbh.
"Fatalis destroyed the entire ancient civilisation out of anger and spite in a single night and is completely immortal and invincible and is the strongest monster in the WHOLE series!!"
"Ah but these guys managed to extract DNA from every single variant of fatalis and smoosh them all together into a chimeric monstrosity somehow!"
Uh, no, I dont think so.

Don't think "New" is what they were going for, given that its theme integrates Fatalis' from Iceborne.

Personally think it a cool thought that Zoh Shia had to deal with and repel some other creature whilst itself being an amalgamation of the widely accepted most fearsome species.

Imagine those creatures having had a big battle and both ending up weakened, Zoh Shia staying at the torch to recover for ages, getting broken out and "Slain" by the hunter to later return mutated and more powerful. And later face its new and unknown adversary.

[Turel]

Originally posted by ᔑᓭ∴ᔑリ⊣:

I don't think zoh shia is an amalgamation of fatalis, i think its a brand new black dragon that we possibly-killed before it could finish transforming, none of the other constructs are amalgamations of multiple monsters either. And i also think its very lazy to think everything is just boiling down to fatalis fatalis fatalis. i wish people would stop obsessing over the damn thing already tbh.
"Fatalis destroyed the entire ancient civilisation out of anger and spite in a single night and is completely immortal and invincible and is the strongest monster in the WHOLE series!!"
"Ah but these guys managed to extract DNA from every single variant of fatalis and smoosh them all together into a chimeric monstrosity somehow!"
Uh, no, I dont think so.

I mean personally I would like to see Nakarkos come back or Gogmazios