Does anyone actually think the Gore Magala fight is good?

[Herr Schadenfreude]

The title. If you like it, explain why.

I will counter you with 27 reasons why it's not.

[NiamhNyx]

Originally posted by Herr Schadenfreude:

Originally posted by NiamhNyx:

You can guard that attack if you aren't facing the wrong way, also he is 100% telegraphed. How do I know this? I have been hitting offsets on him with a HAMMER. You know, the offset that is the final hit of the normal combo?

"I did a thing, therefore nu-huh."

If he wasn't telegraphed, No one would be able to successfully offset him with a hammer. It as simple as that.

[Herr Schadenfreude]

Originally posted by NiamhNyx:

Originally posted by Herr Schadenfreude:

"I did a thing, therefore nu-huh."

If he wasn't telegraphed, No one would be able to successfully offset him with a hammer. It as simple as that.

You're online. Right now. Capture a 6-minute video of you "consistently" hitting that offset.

[NiamhNyx]

Originally posted by Herr Schadenfreude:

Originally posted by NiamhNyx:

If he wasn't telegraphed, No one would be able to successfully offset him with a hammer. It as simple as that.

You're online. Right now. Capture a 6-minute video of you "consistently" hitting that offset.

Yea, let me just upload that with an internet upload speed of 120 kbps. Ill notify you in a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ week when its finally uploaded.

[FromChaosTheory]

Yeah lol. It's my favorite fight. Everything else just dies lol. This one actually fights back. I actually starting using the offset moves because of it.

[This PC]

Originally posted by Herr Schadenfreude:

You're online. Right now. Capture a 6-minute video of you "consistently" hitting that offset.

So you're asking him to spend 30 minutes to prove to you that you are the one being delusional ? :P Pay him maybe ?
I'll tell you why I think gore fight is fun, why you think it's not fun and why speedrunners don't run it, all at once: Gore challenges expectations. :P

[Herr Schadenfreude]

Originally posted by This PC:

Originally posted by Herr Schadenfreude:

"I did a thing, therefore nu-huh."

"I can't do a thing, therefore thing bad"

Dear god, you can hit offsets accidentally.

Hit an offset on the 180-degree claw stomp. Show me that happening with consistency.

[Herr Schadenfreude]

Originally posted by This PC:

Originally posted by Herr Schadenfreude:

You're online. Right now. Capture a 6-minute video of you "consistently" hitting that offset.

So you're asking him to spend 30 minutes to prove to you that you are the one being delusional ? :P Pay him maybe ?
I'll tell you why I think gore fight is fun, why you think it's not fun and why speedrunners don't run it, all at once: Gore challenges expectations. :P

30 minutes? I asked for 6 minutes.

[This PC]

Originally posted by Herr Schadenfreude:

Dear god, you can hit offsets accidentally.

Hit an offset on the 180-degree claw stomp. Show me that happening with consistency.

A good hammer player will offset 2~3 times easily during any quest lol, it's the most power move ever with it, you haven't proven to me why Gore is ♥♥♥♥, and I have a complete opposite experience. You're the first one who made claims here, burden of proof is on you. I actually play with a hammer dude all the time. :P

You're trying to derail the discussion to save face.

[This PC]

Originally posted by Herr Schadenfreude:

Originally posted by This PC:

So you're asking him to spend 30 minutes to prove to you that you are the one being delusional ? :P Pay him maybe ?
I'll tell you why I think gore fight is fun, why you think it's not fun and why speedrunners don't run it, all at once: Gore challenges expectations. :P

30 minutes? I asked for 6 minutes.

Yeah, he needs to boot the game, setup for a quest, go into quest, clear quest, all the while recording, then edit the footage so he doesn't spend days uploading, then mess about with youtube to upload it, which will use his internet, just to prove to a rando on the internet that he can hit offsets.

If the move is there, obviously people can hit offsets. You should pay him for his efforts if you're gonna ask him to work for you. Also, you're the one that has a problem here. No one else does lol.

You're being incredibly unreasonable just to maintain face/your biases. Gore is fine, you're thinking too hard about this. Don't fight him if you don't like him, that's all. It's still consistently one of the series' favorite mobs. ;p

I also can confirm that connections with low upload speeds are a thing, mine isn't as brutal, I can still stream 1440p, but like, I can pay more to get more upload. >~> Some ISP's find ways to make more money with that.

[PsychoMantis]

its great. its actually a hard fight. if you arent paying attention a tempered gore will 2 tap you. imagine being upset its challenging when you breeze through the story. its endgame brother.

[Trost]

Originally posted by Herr Schadenfreude:

Originally posted by NiamhNyx:

You can guard that attack if you aren't facing the wrong way, also he is 100% telegraphed. How do I know this? I have been hitting offsets on him with a HAMMER. You know, the offset that is the final hit of the normal combo?

"I did a thing, therefore nuh-uh"

Originally posted by Herr Schadenfreude:

Loving all the "git gud" comments here.....
Can't even articulate WHY you think it's a good fight.

You know there's a reason WHY Arkveld is the current gold standard for speedrunners, right? Do speedrunners also need to "git gud"? Or maybe the Gore fight is just bad? LOL.

You've all just been outted as hapless trolls.

speedrunners use arkveld as the "gold standard" because he has the highest hp. It's showing how fast they can dps down the hardest monster in the game with their weapon. It's not based on the quality of the fight and regardless both fights are perfectly fine. Your issue with the camera is completely user error. Your issue with finding openings with your weapon is user error. Your little "I did a thing therefore..." doesn't work when there's quite literally thousands of people who have no issue with this fight at all.

The fight absolutely has tells. Even just the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ nudge when he boops you literally has a tell where he tilts his head back. Sure is it a very fast thing to notice but that's just part of learning the fight. You have to be more observant of the animations and instead of crying about it in a steam thread actually try to figure out what got you carted and how you can avoid that in the future.

[Herr Schadenfreude]

Originally posted by This PC:

Originally posted by Herr Schadenfreude:

Dear god, you can hit offsets accidentally.

Hit an offset on the 180-degree claw stomp. Show me that happening with consistency.

A good hammer player will offset 2~3 times easily during any quest lol, it's the most power move ever with it, you haven't proven to me why Gore is ♥♥♥♥, and I have a complete opposite experience. You're the first one who made claims here, burden of proof is on you. I actually play with a hammer dude all the time. :P

You're trying to derail the discussion to save face.

I've literally debunked every "reason" so far and given plenty of evidence why it's a BAD fight. "I have fun" doesn't make it a GOOD fight. As I have already PROVEN, the Gore fight is bad. And as I have already admitted, you can have fun with bad fights. See my comments regarding Tigrex and Rajang. When difficulty is administered via "the game decides you'll take damage now" and you can't counter that with any amount of autonomy in a meaningful way, that's BAD monster design.
A GOOD difficult monster design would've been AT Nergigante and Lunastra from MHW. Plenty of punishment but also plenty of counterplay.

[NiamhNyx]

Originally posted by Herr Schadenfreude:

Originally posted by This PC:

A good hammer player will offset 2~3 times easily during any quest lol, it's the most power move ever with it, you haven't proven to me why Gore is ♥♥♥♥, and I have a complete opposite experience. You're the first one who made claims here, burden of proof is on you. I actually play with a hammer dude all the time. :P

You're trying to derail the discussion to save face.

I've literally debunked every "reason" so far and given plenty of evidence why it's a BAD fight. "I have fun" doesn't make it a GOOD fight. As I have already PROVEN, the Gore fight is bad. And as I have already admitted, you can have fun with bad fights. See my comments regarding Tigrex and Rajang. When difficulty is administered via "the game decides you'll take damage now" and you can't counter that with any amount of autonomy in a meaningful way, that's BAD monster design.
A GOOD difficult monster design would've been AT Nergigante and Lunastra from MHW. Plenty of punishment but also plenty of counterplay.

you havent proven anything, all you have proven is you have a ♥♥♥♥ opinion.

[GrimAtrament]

gore magala is the best fight in the game.

[This PC]

why do you even need to debunk reasons ? rofl, like I said, you're thinking too hard about this, it borders on obsession, it's all subjective anyways, people have been "debunking" you too lol, like this camera thing, it's 100% you, I never had camera problems in this game. :P

you're gonna have to accept people might have a different opinion than you do lol