AMD upscaling > DLSS????????? on RTX 3080

[Mister Cebion]

so a friend of mine told me, "dude user AMD you´ll get like 40fps more" and i tryed on my RTX 3080 and it actualy works....

I am bambuzled.

i play on 4k everything on high and get with AMD upscaling like 80-100 fps now.
So maybe for everyone who also have Nvidea try AMD upscaling and not DLSS

[Mister Cebion]

oh and visuals/input is ok no glitched w/e or delay

[ospholis]

You can thank amd by making it open source unlike nvidia, but still is frame gen so...

[Mister Cebion]

yeah treue but we all know this mess of a game need framegen to work on a base level. So yeah i thank AMD to provide the means to play this game.

So for all with issues just try amd upscaling

[Khergit Horse Archer]

try the mod that allows u to use dlss + fsr fg

in my own 3080 i get lower fps on fsr + fg and lower fidelity but mine was heavily underclocked and undervolted so lol not really useful info

edit: i also had the dlss4 swapped

[Sunohara]

so dlss bad on it's own. fsr with frame gen is good?
hate to break it to you guys, but that boost in fps is on the frame gen tick. not fsr

[Jeff4u]

Yes, Nvidia's pre-RTX 4000 cards are saved by AMD. Nvidia always piss off its customers by its VRAM and tech practices.

[zantomun]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Khergit Horse Archer:

try the mod that allows u to use dlss + fsr fg

in my own 3080 i get lower fps on fsr + fg and lower fidelity but mine was heavily underclocked and undervolted so lol not really useful info

seconding this, took maybe 8 minutes to get set up and the lowest DLSS setting looks leaps and bounds better than quality FSR with framegen both on and off

[不良ヌルポインタ]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Jeff4u:

Yes, Nvidia's pre-RTX 4000 cards are saved by AMD. Nvidia always piss off its customers by its VRAM and tech practices.

AMD did not save gamers they just released GPU that is avg 25% higher than MSRP

[Khergit Horse Archer]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von 不良ヌルポインタ:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Jeff4u:

Yes, Nvidia's pre-RTX 4000 cards are saved by AMD. Nvidia always piss off its customers by its VRAM and tech practices.

AMD did not save gamers they just released GPU that is avg 25% higher than MSRP

they mite as well did cuz nvidia's closest competitor is probably going to be like 1.5k or even 2k for similar performance (if stocks even exist, esp outside of the states)

intel has best bang for buck but they have no answers for 1440p high and game support is still ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

one more thing peeps dont realise is the 9070/xt has no rocm support(as ♥♥♥♥ as rocm is) out of the box, it is required for ai/crypto workloads and will help dissuade those purchases

[SvegetaX]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Khergit Horse Archer:

One more thing peeps don't realize is the 9070/xt has no ROCm support(as ♥♥♥♥ as rocm is) out of the box, it is required for ai/crypto workloads and will help dissuade those purchases

They made a smart move with that and this is a basic quote from the foot notes:
"ROCm compatibility matrix. Oracle Linux and Azure Linux are supported only on AMD Instinct."
Those wondering, it means they only sold the server grade stuff with compatibility so large groups or firms, other than scalpers, wouldn't purchase Gaming GPU's.
They just had to be smart enough to read the foot notes or end up with a bulk of GPU's they can not farm on.
AMD also made a statement they had no plans to raise prices on chips.
"MSRP pricing (excluding region specific tariffs and/or taxes) will continue to be encouraged beyond today"
What's going on is Mainly Vendor related. Also using current buzz words as an excuse even if not directly related. Which then is just a cash grab.

[FWDKILLER]

you aint getting 100fps maybe with fake frames in reality its running at 30 fps. i know i have a 3080.

[GrandTickler]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Khergit Horse Archer:

try the mod that allows u to use dlss + fsr fg

in my own 3080 i get lower fps on fsr + fg and lower fidelity but mine was heavily underclocked and undervolted so lol not really useful info

this is the way to go yea.
@OP are u sure u arent talking about AMD framegen instead of upscaling? cause DLSS4 (a version the game is not using right now) should look and run a lot better, ok it might run a little worse actually, but because it looks so much better u could use a lower preset that still looks superior to FSR. but by combining it with AMD framegen u get to experience any game in a smooth 60fps as long your rig can maintain 30fps

yes its fake frames, but one.. the input lag is less then when one would use vsync on a 60hz monitor, which i do. and two.. framegen is advancing so fast lately with various implementations of it (dll swapping, optiscaler, lossless scaling) that its almost flawless now without much artifacting

now im playing DD2 with near max settings at 1440p on a dusty old rtx3060, probably gonna try other games next my pc couldnt handle before

[Resalius...]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Mister Cebion:

so a friend of mine told me, "dude user AMD you´ll get like 40fps more" and i tryed on my RTX 3080 and it actualy works....

I am bambuzled.

i play on 4k everything on high and get with AMD upscaling like 80-100 fps now.
So maybe for everyone who also have Nvidea try AMD upscaling and not DLSS

The new DLSS4 is better then FSR (7xxx gen)
FSR4 comes only to the new Gen. (9070....)
Cant say anything about that but Nvidias DLSS4 is a gamechanger.
WAY better then FSR3 or DLSS3.

Only FG put a delay in.
And thats (in my opinion) not important.
I use a 4090 with FG and DLSS4 all the time and got 0 problems with input lag.
(Cyberpunk,Black myth, horizon, MH wilds...)
Play with GSync, not VSync.

Every 20-50 Nvidia card can use the better DLSS4 override.
I would go with DLSS4 + AMD FG if that is possible. (20-30 series)

VRAM from Nvidia is not rly that good for 4k thats true.
From my 3080ti to my 4090 was a big jump in 4k bc i need in a few games between 16-20 GB VRAM with Max settings.

[lolschrauber]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von GrandTickler:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Khergit Horse Archer:

try the mod that allows u to use dlss + fsr fg

in my own 3080 i get lower fps on fsr + fg and lower fidelity but mine was heavily underclocked and undervolted so lol not really useful info

this is the way to go yea.
@OP are u sure u arent talking about AMD framegen instead of upscaling? cause DLSS4 should look and run a lot better,(ok it might run a little worse actually, but because it looks so much better u could use a lower preset that still looks superior to FSR) but by combining it with AMD framegen u get to experience any game in a smooth 60fps as long your rig can maintain 30fps

yes its fake frames, but one.. the input lag is less then when one would use vsync on a 60hz monitor, which i do. and two.. framegen is advancing so fast lately with various implementations of it (dll swapping, optiscaler, lossless scaling) that its almost flawless now without much artifacting

now im playing DD2 with near max settings at 1440p on a dusty old rtx3060, probably gonna try other games next my pc couldnt handle before

Lower input lag than vsync isn't a flex. Just never use vsync.

[JinxTheWorld]

I'm an outlier I suppose, but on a 4090 performance is excellent with dlss quality.

4k, no framegen, full RT, and every setting maxed. I have it locked at 60fps with no stutter or frame loss. GPU stays cool at 60c-64c cuz of the fps being locked at 60fps. It'll hit 90+fps but it's just more heat.

Besides, don't really need more fps for a game like this. Better to have a low frame time at a lower stable 60 fps, than a high frame time with a unstable high fps.