is flayer 5 still bugged?

[Soutalgon]

I really wish to use flayer 5 :<

[SotiCoto]

Bugged? Bugged how?

[❤️ニューハーフ]

Originally posted by SotiCoto:

Bugged? Bugged how?

Flayer 2 does the most out of 5 ranks

[SotiCoto]

Originally posted by ❤️ニューハーフ:

Originally posted by SotiCoto:

Bugged? Bugged how?

Flayer 2 does the most out of 5 ranks

Okay.... I can see how that is a problem. Damn. I just maxed it out and didn't really think about it.

[WOKEGOD]

Who cares? Wounds is broken and need huge nerfs anyway.

[lunarknight64]

Flayer is not bugged, it's just extremely weak. It has a random chance to proc on hit, and even at level 5 is only ~+25% progress toward wound generation. I didn't try measuring the activation rate but I don't think it's any higher than 1/5 chance on hits. Even with this estimate, +25% more wound infliction on 1/5 of your attacks = 5% more wounds overall. This is all completely separate from the bonus damage proc, which has an even lower activation rate.
This data is all from personal testing on the training dummy.

[Haf]

Originally posted by lunarknight64:

Flayer is not bugged, it's just extremely weak. It has a random chance to proc on hit, and even at level 5 is only ~+25% progress toward wound generation. I didn't try measuring the activation rate but I don't think it's any higher than 1/5 chance on hits. Even with this estimate, +25% more wound infliction on 1/5 of your attacks = 5% more wounds overall. This is all completely separate from the bonus damage proc, which has an even lower activation rate.
This data is all from personal testing on the training dummy.

I have to disagree with this. I tested on the dummy myself too, with Hunting Horn, and with Flayer 2, it consistently generates wounds SIGNIFICANTLY faster than Flayer 5.

[Coth]

Originally posted by lunarknight64:

Flayer is not bugged, it's just extremely weak. It has a random chance to proc on hit, and even at level 5 is only ~+25% progress toward wound generation. I didn't try measuring the activation rate but I don't think it's any higher than 1/5 chance on hits. Even with this estimate, +25% more wound infliction on 1/5 of your attacks = 5% more wounds overall. This is all completely separate from the bonus damage proc, which has an even lower activation rate.
This data is all from personal testing on the training dummy.

It is. There are multiple documentations and testings confirming it.

[TSAI]

Originally posted by Coth:

Originally posted by lunarknight64:

Flayer is not bugged, it's just extremely weak. It has a random chance to proc on hit, and even at level 5 is only ~+25% progress toward wound generation. I didn't try measuring the activation rate but I don't think it's any higher than 1/5 chance on hits. Even with this estimate, +25% more wound infliction on 1/5 of your attacks = 5% more wounds overall. This is all completely separate from the bonus damage proc, which has an even lower activation rate.
This data is all from personal testing on the training dummy.

It is. There are multiple documentations and testings confirming it.

https://www.reddit.com/r/MonsterHunterMeta/comments/1j7ukdw/flayer_is_confirmed_to_not_be_bugged/

Capcom responded, it's not bugged

[DemonicPresence]

Flayer works differently on all weapons every weapon appears to have an attack that will not activate its chances to proc for example savage axe on CB or blade dance and demon flurry on DB, it seems like it doesn't really work on LBG (currently unknown) so it appears it's most likely the quicker hitting attacks on each weapon, and with this now being known flayer isn't appearing all that good anymore.