Weapon Tier List - (based on dps and speedrun times)

[Fast]

S . Gunlance / Charge Blade / Insect Glaive
A . Long Sword / Sword & Shield
B . Lance / GreatSword
C . Dual Blades / Bow
D . HBG / LBG / Switch Axe
F . Hammer / Hunting Horn

**Edited for new times**
These will likely change almost daily so dont get salty cause your favourite weapon is trash tier.

[Gill]

None of this takes into account up time so it's a pretty misleading tier chart.

Hammer is not supposed to do damage, it keeps the monster stunned. I really shoudln't have to explain horn.

S&S is about applying status and versatility.

Dual is about consistent damage over a long period, long sword is for cutting tails and parts.

You can't really just say "This does more damage therefore it is S rank." that's... not how this game works. 4 Gunlances might melt the monster quick when they get the opportunity to attack but they're going to struggle with breaking backs, getting knock downs and cutting tails.

[☭Rosa]

pfff.
actual weapon tierlist

S. Sword and Shield, the weapon of adults.
F. Every other weapon, for toddlers.

[Riukensei]

Publicado originalmente por YMD:

Publicado originalmente por 侍Kage:

Why do people keep saying, capcom gutted charge blade, if it's too good?

Paralyze Charge Blade is one of the strongest weapons alongside Bow atm.
So I don't know what those people are thinking, maybe they just complain about everything

Wait why Paralyze? my Dragon setup is crushing it hard. You are telling me I can squeeze out more?

[Fast]

Publicado originalmente por Gill:

None of this takes into account up time so it's a pretty misleading tier chart.

Hammer is no supposed to do damage, it keeps the monster stunned. I really shoudln't have to explain horn.

S&S is about applying status and versatility.

Dual is about consistent damage over a long period, long sword is for cutting tails and parts.

You can't really just say "This does more damage therefore it is S rank." that's... not how this game works. 4 Gunlances might melt the monster quick when they get the opportunity to attack but they're going to struggle with breaking backs, getting knock downs and cutting tails.

its based on speedrun times, against dps, has nothing to do with anything else.
Bow has the fastest time and highest potential dps right now, charge blade and gunlance are pretty close and IG right against them.

So unless you have some arbitrary requirements outside of fastest 100-0 * maximum dps or whatever you would be wrong and no one cares.

[LonesomeSparrow]

Publicado originalmente por Riukensei:

Publicado originalmente por YMD:

Paralyze Charge Blade is one of the strongest weapons alongside Bow atm.
So I don't know what those people are thinking, maybe they just complain about everything

Wait why Paralyze? my Dragon setup is crushing it hard. You are telling me I can squeeze out more?

well, if the monster is stunned for longer because it's paralyzed you get easy free damage. that's all there is to it

[Gill]

Publicado originalmente por Fast:

Publicado originalmente por Gill:

None of this takes into account up time so it's a pretty misleading tier chart.

Hammer is no supposed to do damage, it keeps the monster stunned. I really shoudln't have to explain horn.

S&S is about applying status and versatility.

Dual is about consistent damage over a long period, long sword is for cutting tails and parts.

You can't really just say "This does more damage therefore it is S rank." that's... not how this game works. 4 Gunlances might melt the monster quick when they get the opportunity to attack but they're going to struggle with breaking backs, getting knock downs and cutting tails.

its based on speedrun times, against dps, has nothing to do with anything else.
Bow has the fastest time and highest potential dps right now, charge blade and gunlance are pretty close and IG right against them.

So unless you have some arbitrary requirements outside of fastest 100-0 * maximum dps or whatever you would be wrong and no one cares.

That's like playing a racing game and just looking at top speed and not taking into account handling or acceleration. Who plays like that?

Strange tier chart.

Besides the correct answer is Gunlance and if you equip anything else you're playing wrong. :D

[Riukensei]

Publicado originalmente por LonesomeSparrow:

Publicado originalmente por Riukensei:

Wait why Paralyze? my Dragon setup is crushing it hard. You are telling me I can squeeze out more?

well, if the monster is stunned for longer because it's paralyzed you get easy free damage. that's all there is to it

You can just stunlock thru Wounds.

[Riukensei]

Publicado originalmente por Gill:

Publicado originalmente por Fast:

its based on speedrun times, against dps, has nothing to do with anything else.
Bow has the fastest time and highest potential dps right now, charge blade and gunlance are pretty close and IG right against them.

So unless you have some arbitrary requirements outside of fastest 100-0 * maximum dps or whatever you would be wrong and no one cares.

That's like playing a racing game and just looking at top speed and not taking into account handling or acceleration. Who plays like that?

Strange tier chart.

Besides the correct answer is Gunlance and if you equip anything else you're playing wrong. :D

This guy is a known troll(Fast), but even I have to disagree, Charge Blade is King.

[L]

Dual Blades will be much higher once their elemental affects actually start working properly. I remember reading and watching a video about it pertaining to why they're lacking is because at the moment, they are fully dependent upon raw damage, and the elemental is bugged for them.

When this gets fixed, just like they did in World to Iceborne, then DBs will definitely get a boost up.

Also, I don't know if this is valid, however I watched this video as well pertaining to the Meta Tier List, and poster used actual speedrun videos to showcase the rankings. Again, despite only being a "day old", it may already be outdated

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-s2xWzU9P4A

[Nonexistinghero]

Publicado originalmente por AuraFlash:

Publicado originalmente por Fast:

S . Bow / Charge Blade / Gunlance / Insect Glaive
A . Switch Axe / Great Sword
B . HBG / LBG / Lance
C . Dual Blades / Long Sword
D . Sword & Shield
F . Hammer / Hunting Horn

*raises fist with Switch axe being in A rank* MY BOY FINALLY UP THERE!

Seems more accurate than the dumb lists I've been reading that put SA near the bottom. Though it's weird seeing HBG and LBG at B since they're usually among the top.

[L]

Publicado originalmente por Gill:

That's like playing a racing game and just looking at top speed and not taking into account handling or acceleration. Who plays like that?

Strange tier chart.

Besides the correct answer is Gunlance and if you equip anything else you're playing wrong. :D

Although I understand the assessment, this tier list is based upon killing the monster the quickest for the most optimal gameplay of finishing a monster. That's why World had Speed Trials implemented into them, with people finding the most effective and efficient ways to kill a monster, and they were actually a thing with even tournaments for them.

So these types of tier list are in fact valid, and again, I understand where you're coming from, however with that sort of notion, then a tier list isn't relevant, which in most cases for a game like Monster Hunter, it shouldn't really matter.

However, for those that want the most effective and fastest ways to kill these monsters (for farming or what not) then these tier list do matter.

That's why we had Meta builds in World/Iceborne, and it's going to be the same here.

[parent child bowl]

Publicado originalmente por Gill:

Publicado originalmente por Fast:

its based on speedrun times, against dps, has nothing to do with anything else.
Bow has the fastest time and highest potential dps right now, charge blade and gunlance are pretty close and IG right against them.

So unless you have some arbitrary requirements outside of fastest 100-0 * maximum dps or whatever you would be wrong and no one cares.

That's like playing a racing game and just looking at top speed and not taking into account handling or acceleration.

No, it's like playing a racing game and just looking at the time it takes you to finish the race. You know? What racing is about.

[Ryo]

Putting bow first place and hunting horn last (took the two extremes here for comparison) is a pretty wild take when every category of MHW runs on speedrun.com show Hunting Horn being middle of the road 5th place-ish and bow dead last everywhere.

Maybe we don't have the same data, what is your source?

Publicado originalmente por parent child bowl:

Publicado originalmente por Gill:

That's like playing a racing game and just looking at top speed and not taking into account handling or acceleration.

No, it's like playing a racing game and just looking at the time it takes you to finish the race. You know? What racing is about.

Also no, wrong comparison, this is like pretending to look at a race, but what you're actually looking at is a straight line with no turns, no opponents and no obstacles. This isn't racing this is testing motor speed.

[parent child bowl]

Publicado originalmente por Ryo:

Putting bow first place and hunting horn last is a pretty wild take when every category of MHW runs on speedrun.com show Hunting Horn being middle of the road 5th place-ish and bow dead last everywhere.

Pretty wild to look at runs on speedrun.com when they are freaking beta runs of quests that don't matter.

[Ryo]

Publicado originalmente por parent child bowl:

Publicado originalmente por Ryo:

Putting bow first place and hunting horn last is a pretty wild take when every category of MHW runs on speedrun.com show Hunting Horn being middle of the road 5th place-ish and bow dead last everywhere.

Pretty wild to look at runs on speedrun.com when they are freaking beta runs of quests that don't matter.

Then what is the actual source of the claim? I'd gladly take the data.