Is artian weapons the best?

[GrandMasterBlyat]

If so doesn't that make killing monsters less rewarding when you know you can get the best weapon which you can augment any way you like in just a few monster kills?

[The Debauchery]

Speaking as a Bow main there is only one Artian Weapon worth bothering with: the 3x Ice Affinity Bow. Obviously there is no point bothering with any Bow that isn't 3 of the same element since elemental damage is vital for proper Bow use. And unfortunately Fire and Water Artian Bows are both rotten garbage because they only have access to Close Range Coating. Thunder and Dragon both get Power Coatings, which I suppose is fine... but Pierce Coatings are where it is at for any non-small monster, which tend to be the ones that require powerful weapons in the first place..... so that leaves only Ice, since that is the only element that gets a Pierce Coating.
Funnily enough, Ice and Dragon are the only elements that don't naturally get a Pierce Coating Bow from Monsters, so this is great for Ice.... but as for Dragon, the Artian Bow is maybe a slight upgrade over the Gore Magala Bow, but not much... and looks uglier.

Honestly just gathering three perfect Ice Element Affinity parts for a Bow is a nuisance enough in and of itself... but getting the upgrades acceptable is a nigh-on impossible task without save-scumming.

[StaticExtasy]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Poyzo:

Haven't made a good one with HBG yet (only made 2). They've all been low DPS and low ignition charge. My crafted one has more DPS, more deco slots and fastest ignition charge.

No Rapid fire on bowgun artians sadly, You're straight up better off with monster weapons.

[NiamhNyx]

They are like 5% stronger if you get the best possible rolls with a perfect set and decorations.

You can get some whack skill combos though.
My hammer decorations: 4 Maxed out skills
Charge 3 / KO 1
Charge up / KO 1
Focus 3 / KO 1

[Soren]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Havok:

Best because you can control it, and has 3 3x deco slots. So your damage potential is higher than the 321s slot, especially if you build it properly.

The tier 3 deco slots are a bit awkward though. Like crit boost or attack boost capping at lvl 5. If you put two of your deco slots into maxing such a skill out, you've lost some deco efficiency on the second tier 3 deco. As two critical boost 3 decos give you lvl 6 critical boost and the game caps it at 5.

Meanwhile monster weapons are better suited to maxing out a level 5 skill with their 3/2 slot, and they almost always come with a skill that equal a tier 3 deco by default anyway.

Not to mention, the RNG of the artian weapons upgrades are pretty limited. Like 5 back to back affinity upgrades are literally impossible. The game only lets you have 3 max on a weapon.

[Cr1spy_w0lf]

Arkveld GL perform better compare to Artian. Since GL only need to stack damage and artillery. Any weapons with crit Artian probably the best.

[★Brosef]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Hormesis:

not for all situations. the artian DB sucks for the simple reason it has very little sharpness. you'd have to have all 5 upgrades be sharpness just to make it on par w/ normal tier 8 weapons. and if you did that, it would fall behind in every other respect (affinity/damage/element). if slotting in master's touch and having 37% base affinity i end up having to sharpen multiple times before the monster even leaves the area.

You can slap on the sharp 3 jewel, 90 sec should be plenty of time to rip and tear.

[Hormesis]

also keep in mind, once the dlc drops tier 9 weapons will all be better than their artisan counterparts (assuming artisan can't be upgraded further), so you'll just end up having to craft tier 8 anyways.

[❤️ニューハーフ]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Havok:

Best because you can control it, and has 3 3x deco slots. So your damage potential is higher than the 321s slot, especially if you build it properly.

The catch, is getting the perfect rolls, but yes. Now, there are arguably some very good lvl 8 weapons, and the designs of the monster weapons are infinitely better.

All depends on how you build it. I personally use a monster wep for targeted elemental, and my crafted is paralyze with 3x ele 2x atk. I really cant be asked to play the RNG game to remake that into another element.

Weapon stats determined by order of you crafting these weapons of same rarity and type.

So if you want lbg rarity 8, save game -> craft lbg with unwanted stats rarity 8 -> upgrade it to full- > got wrong combo? then dismantle it and save gave, this will advance rng seed

Repeat after next bad weapon has good stats then quit to title without saving, load and craft lbg with parts you want, it will have your desired gacha bonuses. (you cant use level 7 etc parts to advance seed, only rarity 8 and same weapon type)

After finding about this I am more furious about this game than before. Capcom REALLY wanted for you to grind good weapon parts then dissolve them because of bad roll over and over.....

[Platapoop]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Hormesis:

not for all situations. the artian DB sucks for the simple reason it has very little sharpness. you'd have to have all 5 upgrades be sharpness just to make it on par w/ normal tier 8 weapons. and if you did that, it would fall behind in every other respect (affinity/damage/element). if slotting in master's touch and having 37% base affinity i end up having to sharpen multiple times before the monster even leaves the area.

As someone said, protective polish for 90 seconds. The best decos for db is probably the element/whatever you want, protective polish, and attack. Crit seems to be a meme so don't do that

[HiT]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย ❤️ニューハーフ:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Havok:

Best because you can control it, and has 3 3x deco slots. So your damage potential is higher than the 321s slot, especially if you build it properly.

The catch, is getting the perfect rolls, but yes. Now, there are arguably some very good lvl 8 weapons, and the designs of the monster weapons are infinitely better.

All depends on how you build it. I personally use a monster wep for targeted elemental, and my crafted is paralyze with 3x ele 2x atk. I really cant be asked to play the RNG game to remake that into another element.

Weapon stats determined by order of you crafting these weapons of same rarity and type.

So if you want lbg rarity 8, save game -> craft lbg with unwanted stats rarity 8 -> upgrade it to full- > got wrong combo? then dismantle it and save gave, this will advance rng seed

Repeat after next bad weapon has good stats then quit to title without saving, load and craft lbg with parts you want, it will have your desired gacha bonuses. (you cant use level 7 etc parts to advance seed, only rarity 8 and same weapon type)

After finding about this I am more furious about this game than before. Capcom REALLY wanted for you to grind good weapon parts then dissolve them because of bad roll over and over.....

at least you get the upgrade mats back =)

[Raziel]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Soren:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Havok:

Best because you can control it, and has 3 3x deco slots. So your damage potential is higher than the 321s slot, especially if you build it properly.

The tier 3 deco slots are a bit awkward though. Like crit boost or attack boost capping at lvl 5

Attack and crit boost aren't the best choices anymore. But, a level 5 skill can easily be maxed out using on tier 3 attack deco, then adding two other t3 decos that have attack as a bonus deco. (Like adding a magazine/attack jwl)

3 3x ends up being the best later when you have tier 3 decos with one skill maxed, and an extra skill on top.

[Soren]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Raziel:

Attack and crit boost aren't the best choices anymore. But, a level 5 skill can easily be maxed out using on tier 3 attack deco, then adding two other t3 decos that have attack as a bonus deco. (Like adding a magazine/attack jwl)

3 3x ends up being the best later when you have tier 3 decos with one skill maxed, and an extra skill on top.

There are no crit boost sub effects in tier 3 decos. So getting crit boost 5 on an artian weapon is a big waste of deco space. Crit eye as a sub effect only goes on some weird decos or specific weapons too. Like the aerial attack/crit eye deco ain't going to be usable as a bow main, trust me, I tried a bow aerial build. It does not work well at all. But at least angelbein offers a lot of base crit if you build it that way, so you don't need crit eye 3 above 3 to near cap out.

I've found working around the sub deco effects on tier 3 to be conflicting in a lot of ways though. Like elemental crit. It's not like there are 3 decos that has elemental crit as a sub effect letting you easily get elemental crit on your bow. Or if you choose elemental crit 3 with frost/water/thunder/fire/dragon attack 1, then there is nothing else that gives 2/3 in that elemental boost for bow to pair with it. So it's left in an awkward 1/3. Some for other skills like ballistic. Either pick it as your tier 3 deco, or deal with 1/3 of it on some other deco like focus 3.

[タケゾ]

artian weapons look so gay, why cant we transmog them

[Jad The Taff]

Artisan hunting horns are awful. On the other side of things I got lucky with an amazing paralysis GS and Hammer.

[Casval Zem Daikun]

Sadly, Artian weapons aren't even an option if you're focused on Gunlance Shelling. The attack rolls on the weapon don't apply to shells.