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Danielsan 3 月 8 日 上午 9:40
Razer core X 4070 MSI unplayble.
Always 40 fps also with frame gen. 4k, full hd or 720p. no matter what i do, always bad performance.

If i play without egpu in portability, the game runs better... no words
最后由 Danielsan 编辑于; 3 月 8 日 下午 3:12
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引用自 VascoNgC:
I've been experiencing the same issue as you. I'm using a ROG Ally (Z1E) with an RTX 4060 eGPU (SWGZONE). No matter how I adjust the settings (1080p, 720p, 1440p, Balanced, DLAA, ray tracing on/off), the FPS always remains around 50 or lower. Most importantly, I've noticed the CPU usage is consistently very high, usually around 80-90%, while GPU usage remains low, around 50-60%.

Recently, after updating the Nvidia software, I managed to achieve nearly 60 FPS using the "Optimization" feature. However, this automatically sets many graphics options to low, which doesn't make sense since the CPU usage remains high, and the GPU still isn't fully utilized.

I know some might suggest the CPU isn't strong enough, but considering that the Z1E APU can run MH Wilds independently without an eGPU, it's hard to believe it's the CPU's fault. Moreover, I can play other AAA games perfectly with full GPU utilization—for example, Cyberpunk 2077 at 1080p with high settings and ray tracing enabled, consistently running above 70 FPS.

Lastly, I'd like to share an interesting workaround I discovered during my testing: If you suddenly increase all graphical settings in MH Wilds to extreme levels (DLAA, high ray tracing, etc.), the FPS will naturally drop dramatically (to around 8 FPS). But if you then revert to medium or high settings (or whatever your preferred settings are), there's a chance the CPU and GPU usage will balance out correctly (around 50% CPU and 90% GPU usage). Unfortunately, as soon as you move to another map or start a new mission, you'll have to repeat this process. It doesn't always work consistently and can be very tedious, so eventually, I stopped using this method altogether.

In my opinion, this issue is definitely related to the game itself, possibly how it handles eGPUs connected via USB4.
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AmaiAmai 3 月 9 日 上午 4:07 
引用自 Danielsan：
引用自 AmaiAmai：
Uh you have an eGPU? If you do you should always check if you disabled power saving.

If you have power save on USB on (selective suspend, port speed down, etc.) might want to try turning that off.

You can find those options in power options for selective suspend

Port speed/USB chip disable/low power should be consolidated into one option on the USB hub in device manager (Device Manager -> USB Controllers -> USB Host Controller)

Note the above might have to be done for the eGPU as well.

^ Doing the above might improve performance overall if Windows is mistakenly turning off the USB or powering it down when the system is "waiting" for frames. Though in general on MSDN I tell people to disable those options with an eGPU and they do get improvement...

Though not sure in your case and with this game.

thank you, i tried now and set max to all option.
Anyway, if i go back to nvidia app it shows me this: This system doesn't meet the minimum requirements for optimal settings in this game or app. The optimal values may deliver unplayable framerates.

If i turn 1440p or 1080p this message disappear but i have the same bad performance.

I do not understand, did you do this:

[Selective Suspend]
https://www.thewindowsclub.com/usb-selective-suspend-enable-disable

[Disable Power Management on USB Hub]
https://pattersonsupport.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/14917/~/disable-usb-power-management
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Danielsan 3 月 9 日 上午 4:36 
引用自 AmaiAmai：
引用自 Danielsan：

thank you, i tried now and set max to all option.
Anyway, if i go back to nvidia app it shows me this: This system doesn't meet the minimum requirements for optimal settings in this game or app. The optimal values may deliver unplayable framerates.

If i turn 1440p or 1080p this message disappear but i have the same bad performance.

I do not understand, did you do this:

[Selective Suspend]
https://www.thewindowsclub.com/usb-selective-suspend-enable-disable

[Disable Power Management on USB Hub]
https://pattersonsupport.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/14917/~/disable-usb-power-management

yes i done it but i can't find usb selective suspend in power option , maybe its different in w11
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Danielsan 3 月 9 日 上午 5:07 
引用自 BluntWrap：
Update your system or get a better cpu maybe? My game runs at 144fps. 4070 and 5800x3d. Maybe update your bios or cpu? Bios is a pretty big deal.

i can play it without egpu, only on rog ally x runs better, so it not a bios or cpu problem :D

rog ally x without egpu i do 60 or more fps with frame gen on at 720p.

rog ally x with 4070 egpu thunderbolt 4

i can t do 40/50 fps with frame gen.

So please stop telling me that is a cpu or some pc part problem :D
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Danielsan 3 月 9 日 上午 5:09 
i spend all yesterday to try run a decent monster wilds....
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Dee 3 月 9 日 上午 5:13 
something is wrong with your PC bro nobody has such problems with an 4070 on that low resolution^^ sorry bro but thats might an other problem not your GPU
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Danielsan 3 月 9 日 上午 5:21 
引用自 Dee：
something is wrong with your PC bro nobody has such problems with an 4070 on that low resolution^^ sorry bro but thats might an other problem not your GPU
yeah i know but only with this game bro
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Danielsan 3 月 9 日 上午 9:03 
I tried to comparate a game that works fine and monster hunter with same setup.
I noticed that in wilds rtss overlay not shows voice: AMD VRAM process/usage

while other games are ok and i can see this voice. I dont know if it can help someone to advice me something...
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GamingWithSilvertail 3 月 9 日 上午 9:04 
he's usign a rog ally, not a real PC. I still say the problem is your USB bandwitch. The reason I say this is due to the fact USB is much slower then PCI lanes

Take CP for example, it its a very limited improvement going from a 1070 to a 4070 when that improvement would be massive otherwise.
最后由 GamingWithSilvertail 编辑于; 3 月 9 日 上午 9:06
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Danielsan 3 月 9 日 上午 9:10 
引用自 GamingWithSilvertail：
he's usign a rog ally, not a real PC. I still say the problem is your USB bandwitch. The reason I say this is due to the fact USB is much slower then PCI lanes

Take CP for example, it its a very limited improvement going from a 1070 to a 4070 when that improvement would be massive otherwise.

40gbs is not good to play this ridicolous game in 720p ? i hope are u joking
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Danielsan 3 月 9 日 上午 9:11 
引用自 Danielsan：
引用自 GamingWithSilvertail：
he's usign a rog ally, not a real PC. I still say the problem is your USB bandwitch. The reason I say this is due to the fact USB is much slower then PCI lanes

Take CP for example, it its a very limited improvement going from a 1070 to a 4070 when that improvement would be massive otherwise.

40gbs is not good to play this ridicolous game in 720p ? i hope are u joking
i have thunderbolt4 cable original razer.
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GamingWithSilvertail 3 月 9 日 上午 9:34 
引用自 Danielsan：
引用自 GamingWithSilvertail：
he's usign a rog ally, not a real PC. I still say the problem is your USB bandwitch. The reason I say this is due to the fact USB is much slower then PCI lanes

Take CP for example, it its a very limited improvement going from a 1070 to a 4070 when that improvement would be massive otherwise.

40gbs is not good to play this ridicolous game in 720p ? i hope are u joking
Not via thunderbolt no... and it odnt apply just to this game either.
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Fact is, You cant possible Thunderbolt is limited. You're not running x16 PCI lane speed from 2020+....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UE_2NyaAas
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Danielsan 3 月 9 日 上午 9:57 
引用自 GamingWithSilvertail：
引用自 Danielsan：

40gbs is not good to play this ridicolous game in 720p ? i hope are u joking
Not via thunderbolt no... and it odnt apply just to this game either.
'

Fact is, You cant possible Thunderbolt is limited. You're not running x16 PCI lane speed from 2020+....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UE_2NyaAas

i have 4070 not 4090...obv the performance decrease a lot with that card.

can you explain why ff rebirth can run like butter in 4k quality 60 fps and high settings..?
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This PC (已封禁) 3 月 9 日 上午 9:59 
引用自 Danielsan：
Card name: AMD Radeon Graphics
Device Problem Code: No Problem
Driver Problem Code: Unknown
Display Memory: 12246 MB
Dedicated Memory: 365 MB
Shared Memory: 11880 MB
You are running the game on your integrated gpu.
Disable that ♥♥♥♥ in your bios lol.
最后由 This PC 编辑于; 3 月 9 日 上午 10:01
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This PC (已封禁) 3 月 9 日 上午 10:02 
引用自 Danielsan：
can you explain why ff rebirth can run like butter in 4k quality 60 fps and high settings..?

I run both games with the same settings on the same gpu with slightly less performance on wilds, but wilds is prettier. Something is wrong with your setup. Never assume that because you can run a game, you can run another, they are all built differently with different goals in mind.

Just as an example, people often refer to CP2077 to say "I can run CP2077, but not X game, it's X game's problem", but CP2077 is mostly closed environments where they can cull everything that isn't in sight. Once you go out in the open, CP is empty. :P
最后由 This PC 编辑于; 3 月 9 日 上午 10:06
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Danielsan 3 月 9 日 上午 10:02 
引用自 This PC：
引用自 Danielsan：
Card name: AMD Radeon Graphics
Device Problem Code: No Problem
Driver Problem Code: Unknown
Display Memory: 12246 MB
Dedicated Memory: 365 MB
Shared Memory: 11880 MB
You are running the game on your integrated gpu.

i dont know what to do, in game it shows 4070 lol
最后由 Danielsan 编辑于; 3 月 9 日 上午 10:03
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