F those who capture.

[Tögriks]

To the people who join other's SOS and CAPTURE the monster can suck a fat one. You guys suck -.-

[bradams]

Iv found that if I want things done a specific way, its best to do it myself.

Don't request other peoples help and then get mad at them because they didn't help the way you wanted them to.

[StarExile]

Publicado originalmente por StarExile:

Publicado originalmente por Lynsi:

Read what i wrote again
You HUNTED 35 Gore Magala out of those 35 you captured 18.
Cause i for one can tell you i did not kill 26 Arkvelds but thats what my Hunted Count is.

Also idk why you have to get outright rude (nor is my Profile Pic a Anime Girl)

Coz most bs comes from your types of profile.
Second, if i go and slay Magala it will show 36, if i ended up capturing it it will stay on 35.

Lol, ok my bad. First anime girl got me
i went for another Magala quest, captured it, now its 36. Damn, i think i bamboozeled it coz so many ppl capturing my Magalas instead of slaying

[The Debauchery]

Publicado originalmente por ₰Lin₰:

Capturing does give you better opportunities at certain rewards, typically the monsters Plate/Gem and in the future likely their Pallium.

That was true in Rise / Sunbreak.
Can't really be confirmed in Wilds since we don't have a loot listing for Capture rewards any more and the Carve crowd are assuming it is grouped in with "Target Rewards", and the two values have different odds. Tough to be sure in practice though.

Publicado originalmente por StarExile:

Lol, ok my bad. First anime girl got me :VSnake:
i went for another Magala quest, captured it, now its 36. Damn, i think i bamboozeled it coz so many ppl capturing my Magalas instead of slaying :Emil:

I'm not even sure why Gore Magala is capturable. I mean it always has been since 4th gen, but it still seems weird.
It is technically a juvenile Dragon. Maybe immunity to capture is something they learn with age...

[StarExile]

Publicado originalmente por Lynsi:

Publicado originalmente por StarExile:

Coz most bs comes from your types of profile.
Second, if i go and slay Magala it will show 36, if i ended up capturing it it will stay on 35.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3440947884
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3440948098

Here you can see it counts both (just captured a Miniature)

Yeah yeah, sorry. I did the same, now my Magala count is 36, already posted about it. Well, still, i want a feature for Quest starter, so i can choose in the begining, Type of Quest: Slay or Hunt or Cap.

*
So, some quest in Story Mode, for captuarble monster are Slay only.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3440696967

So technicaly its there, would be great if i can choose to set my quests to Slay. for everyone to be happy)

[StarExile]

Publicado originalmente por The Debauchery:

Publicado originalmente por ₰Lin₰:

Capturing does give you better opportunities at certain rewards, typically the monsters Plate/Gem and in the future likely their Pallium.

That was true in Rise / Sunbreak.
Can't really be confirmed in Wilds since we don't have a loot listing for Capture rewards any more and the Carve crowd are assuming it is grouped in with "Target Rewards", and the two values have different odds. Tough to be sure in practice though.

Publicado originalmente por StarExile:

Lol, ok my bad. First anime girl got me
i went for another Magala quest, captured it, now its 36. Damn, i think i bamboozeled it coz so many ppl capturing my Magalas instead of slaying

I'm not even sure why Gore Magala is capturable. I mean it always has been since 4th gen, but it still seems weird.
It is technically a juvenile Dragon. Maybe immunity to capture is something they learn with age...

I belive Magala was capturable in Rise too, but i dont remember)

[Gravious]

Publicado originalmente por StarExile:

Publicado originalmente por Gravious:

It shows, they show up as "Captured" it keeps a numerical log of it.

Also your supposed to cause those wounds AS you hunt it, their are even skills you can get that allows to creation of wounds to be much easier.

Though, I never had trouble with it since I primarily solo and I use dual blades, most other hunters are hindrances anyway.

Captured numbers are shown only in your Monster Field Guide book, but if you place it on your main Hunter Profile for other ppl to see, it will show only the real hunts number, which is - Slayed :mhwgood:

and who really cares about that?

Either way, I will capture, when and if I feel like it, if you SoS and calling people to come help you, your doing it to make the hunt go faster, or you are too unskilled/underprepared to solo it yourself. I am simply making it go faster by capturing. Thats how its always been since before MH became mainstream, its going to be that way now. Especially, when the harder hunts come out that will 2-3 shot most hunters *by most I mean, those too lazy to do intricate layouts to deal with each invidividual monster, usually new generation hunters, youtuber meta builders fall in this same category* and if I gotta immediately switch to Paladin build to prevent feints, you bet your ass if the monster is capturable, im going to capture it.

The only time I do not, is if the party leader specifically asks not to, and this really only happened very often in the MH's before World, when killing was at times, more needed than capturing due to particular mats only coming from Carves. Nowadays we dont have to worry about that anymore, doing a Capture is now a bonus.

But if your into showing off your "Numbers". The only number us vets honestly care about is your Hunter Rank, which sadly on PC, can be cheated. We typically used Hunter/Master rank to gauge how experienced and possibly prepared a Hunter is, and often will use that metric to either do hunts with that hunter, kick from group, or be prepared to keep an eye on that hunter, depending on what exactly we are doing.

No one gives a damn how many Fart Monkies you killed, only what your HR/MR is to determine how progressed and experienced you are, and like I said, on PC unfortunately, people can honestly cheat that to some degree.

[Riukensei]

Publicado originalmente por Tögriks:

To the people who join other's SOS and CAPTURE the monster can suck a fat one. You guys suck -.-

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[redsaaryn]

Publicado originalmente por Tögriks:

To the people who join other's SOS and CAPTURE the monster can suck a fat one. You guys suck -.-

do you realize that you quite LITERALLY GET BETTER REWARDS BY CAPTUING and the only other better option would be to LITERALLY BREAK ALL OF THE PARTS BEFORE KILLING IT. rare materials have a higher drop rate when capturing

[I.T Drift]

I do nothing but capture, killing is easy, the fun is in capturing and the rewards are so much better, you also don't need to fight it so many times, once or twice and your onto the next.

Capturing is a no brainer!

[brunolm]

Publicado originalmente por redsaaryn:

Publicado originalmente por Tögriks:

To the people who join other's SOS and CAPTURE the monster can suck a fat one. You guys suck -.-

do you realize that you quite LITERALLY GET BETTER REWARDS BY CAPTUING and the only other better option would be to LITERALLY BREAK ALL OF THE PARTS BEFORE KILLING IT. rare materials have a higher drop rate when capturing

No you do not. You're wrong. It's actually the opposite.

Target gem is 3%, and it shares the loot pool with:

Rey Dau Tail [11%]
Rey Dau Carapace [22%]
Rey Dau Plate [7%]
Rey Dau Scale+ [22%]
Rey Dau Bolthorn [11%]
Rey Dau Boltgem [3%]
Rey Dau Certificate S [8%]
Rey Dau Fulgurtalon [16%]

If you carve not only the chance is higher (5/7%) but it also shares the loot pool with less stuff

Rey Dau Tail [11% (Body), 93% (Tail)]
Rey Dau Carapace [23% (Body)]
Rey Dau Scale+ [30% (Body)]
Rey Dau Bolthorn [13% (Body)]
Rey Dau Boltgem [5% (Body), 7% (Tail)]
Rey Dau Fulgurtalon [18% (Body)]

[StarExile]

Publicado originalmente por Gravious:

Publicado originalmente por StarExile:

Captured numbers are shown only in your Monster Field Guide book, but if you place it on your main Hunter Profile for other ppl to see, it will show only the real hunts number, which is - Slayed

and who really cares about that?

Either way, I will capture, when and if I feel like it, if you SoS and calling people to come help you, your doing it to make the hunt go faster, or you are too unskilled/underprepared to solo it yourself. I am simply making it go faster by capturing. Thats how its always been since before MH became mainstream, its going to be that way now. Especially, when the harder hunts come out that will 2-3 shot most hunters *by most I mean, those too lazy to do intricate layouts to deal with each invidividual monster, usually new generation hunters, youtuber meta builders fall in this same category* and if I gotta immediately switch to Paladin build to prevent feints, you bet your ass if the monster is capturable, im going to capture it.

The only time I do not, is if the party leader specifically asks not to, and this really only happened very often in the MH's before World, when killing was at times, more needed than capturing due to particular mats only coming from Carves. Nowadays we dont have to worry about that anymore, doing a Capture is now a bonus.

But if your into showing off your "Numbers". The only number us vets honestly care about is your Hunter Rank, which sadly on PC, can be cheated. We typically used Hunter/Master rank to gauge how experienced and possibly prepared a Hunter is, and often will use that metric to either do hunts with that hunter, kick from group, or be prepared to keep an eye on that hunter, depending on what exactly we are doing.

No one gives a damn how many Fart Monkies you killed, only what your HR/MR is to determine how progressed and experienced you are, and like I said, on PC unfortunately, people can honestly cheat that to some degree.

Well, i do :D

If i slayed 10 000 Dragons, that means iam THE EMPEROR OF DRAGONS
THE STRONGEST OF POTIONS


You know

Thats just the diff kind of achivment, that is all. You know the saying: A cornered beast is the most dangerous ?

Its just pump up adrenaline of the fight, especialy when some pleb already place a trap, that mean i have very limited time to end the meowster days. Its fun.

[Soren]

Publicado originalmente por brunolm:

Publicado originalmente por redsaaryn:

do you realize that you quite LITERALLY GET BETTER REWARDS BY CAPTUING and the only other better option would be to LITERALLY BREAK ALL OF THE PARTS BEFORE KILLING IT. rare materials have a higher drop rate when capturing

No you do not. You're wrong. It's actually the opposite.

Target gem is 3%, and it shares the loot pool with:

Rey Dau Tail [11%]
Rey Dau Carapace [22%]
Rey Dau Plate [7%]
Rey Dau Scale+ [22%]
Rey Dau Bolthorn [11%]
Rey Dau Boltgem [3%]
Rey Dau Certificate S [8%]
Rey Dau Fulgurtalon [16%]

If you carve not only the chance is higher (5/7%) but it also shares the loot pool with less stuff

Rey Dau Tail [11% (Body), 93% (Tail)]
Rey Dau Carapace [23% (Body)]
Rey Dau Scale+ [30% (Body)]
Rey Dau Bolthorn [13% (Body)]
Rey Dau Boltgem [5% (Body), 7% (Tail)]
Rey Dau Fulgurtalon [18% (Body)]

Rey Dau plate is more of the bottleneck for Rey Dau stuff you craft. It's also a rare tier drop like the gem, but carves can't get it at all. Finding a Rey Dau investigation with a target reward of a gem isn't that uncommon either, and hence why the gems of monsters aren't considered the most valuable anymore. For example, I had 3 Rey Dau gems, no plates, and I wanted to craft the Rey Dau bow, but couldn't because I had no plates from only slaying them. I couldn't craft the bow because I traditionally don't cap monsters.

So I'd say Rey Dau is an example of the capture rewards being subjectively better because they're more balanced. Though subjective is the key word here. As hypothetically a person could still want the carve drops more.

[Gravious]

Publicado originalmente por brunolm:

Publicado originalmente por redsaaryn:

do you realize that you quite LITERALLY GET BETTER REWARDS BY CAPTUING and the only other better option would be to LITERALLY BREAK ALL OF THE PARTS BEFORE KILLING IT. rare materials have a higher drop rate when capturing

No you do not. You're wrong. It's actually the opposite.

Target gem is 3%, and it shares the loot pool with:

Rey Dau Tail [11%]
Rey Dau Carapace [22%]
Rey Dau Plate [7%]
Rey Dau Scale+ [22%]
Rey Dau Bolthorn [11%]
Rey Dau Boltgem [3%]
Rey Dau Certificate S [8%]
Rey Dau Fulgurtalon [16%]

If you carve not only the chance is higher (5/7%) but it also shares the loot pool with less stuff

Rey Dau Tail [11% (Body), 93% (Tail)]
Rey Dau Carapace [23% (Body)]
Rey Dau Scale+ [30% (Body)]
Rey Dau Bolthorn [13% (Body)]
Rey Dau Boltgem [5% (Body), 7% (Tail)]
Rey Dau Fulgurtalon [18% (Body)]

I got Gems from just capturing, it immediately looted 3-4 items upon capture, and gem was in it.

Then I got another Gem in the results screen. I also gotten one from carving a tail.

Again, things are different now. They did it this way to prevent players griefing and yelling at each other compared to previous titles. Did you not see how you immediately get 3-4 items upon capturing a monster as if you carved them? That is new to this game, they never did that before.

Publicado originalmente por StarExile:

Publicado originalmente por Gravious:

and who really cares about that?

Either way, I will capture, when and if I feel like it, if you SoS and calling people to come help you, your doing it to make the hunt go faster, or you are too unskilled/underprepared to solo it yourself. I am simply making it go faster by capturing. Thats how its always been since before MH became mainstream, its going to be that way now. Especially, when the harder hunts come out that will 2-3 shot most hunters *by most I mean, those too lazy to do intricate layouts to deal with each invidividual monster, usually new generation hunters, youtuber meta builders fall in this same category* and if I gotta immediately switch to Paladin build to prevent feints, you bet your ass if the monster is capturable, im going to capture it.

The only time I do not, is if the party leader specifically asks not to, and this really only happened very often in the MH's before World, when killing was at times, more needed than capturing due to particular mats only coming from Carves. Nowadays we dont have to worry about that anymore, doing a Capture is now a bonus.

But if your into showing off your "Numbers". The only number us vets honestly care about is your Hunter Rank, which sadly on PC, can be cheated. We typically used Hunter/Master rank to gauge how experienced and possibly prepared a Hunter is, and often will use that metric to either do hunts with that hunter, kick from group, or be prepared to keep an eye on that hunter, depending on what exactly we are doing.

No one gives a damn how many Fart Monkies you killed, only what your HR/MR is to determine how progressed and experienced you are, and like I said, on PC unfortunately, people can honestly cheat that to some degree.

Well, i do :D

If i slayed 10 000 Dragons, that means iam THE EMPEROR OF DRAGONS :roar:
THE STRONGEST OF POTIONS :roar:


You know :mhwhappy:

Thats just the diff kind of achivment, that is all. You know the saying: A cornered beast is the most dangerous ?

Its just pump up adrenaline of the fight, especialy when some pleb already place a trap, that mean i have very limited time to end the meowster days. Its fun. :MHRISE_OK:

Thats nice, dont care. If I or any experienced hunter does not A. Get asked to kill or B. Sees you or anyone cart even once, we will capture. If you asked to kill but we seen you or someone else cart two times, we definitely WILL capture. And since you are new, you will understand why later on when even stronger tempered, and eventually MR comes out, their will be some monsters at their absolute most dangerous when they are at low health.

Sighs, new generation getting worse every title....

[StarExile]

Publicado originalmente por Gravious:

Publicado originalmente por brunolm:

No you do not. You're wrong. It's actually the opposite.

Target gem is 3%, and it shares the loot pool with:

Rey Dau Tail [11%]
Rey Dau Carapace [22%]
Rey Dau Plate [7%]
Rey Dau Scale+ [22%]
Rey Dau Bolthorn [11%]
Rey Dau Boltgem [3%]
Rey Dau Certificate S [8%]
Rey Dau Fulgurtalon [16%]

If you carve not only the chance is higher (5/7%) but it also shares the loot pool with less stuff

Rey Dau Tail [11% (Body), 93% (Tail)]
Rey Dau Carapace [23% (Body)]
Rey Dau Scale+ [30% (Body)]
Rey Dau Bolthorn [13% (Body)]
Rey Dau Boltgem [5% (Body), 7% (Tail)]
Rey Dau Fulgurtalon [18% (Body)]

I got Gems from just capturing, it immediately looted 3-4 items upon capture, and gem was in it.

Then I got another Gem in the results screen.

Again, things are different now. They did it this way to prevent players griefing and yelling at each other compared to previous titles. Did you not see how you immediately get 3-4 items upon capturing a monster as if you carved them? That is new to this game, they never did that before.

Publicado originalmente por StarExile:

Well, i do :D

If i slayed 10 000 Dragons, that means iam THE EMPEROR OF DRAGONS
THE STRONGEST OF POTIONS


You know

Thats just the diff kind of achivment, that is all. You know the saying: A cornered beast is the most dangerous ?

Its just pump up adrenaline of the fight, especialy when some pleb already place a trap, that mean i have very limited time to end the meowster days. Its fun.

Thats nice, dont care. If I or any experienced hunter does not A. Get asked to kill or B. Sees you or anyone cart even once, we will capture. If you asked to kill but we seen you or someone else cart two times, we definitely WILL capture. And since you are new, you will understand why later on when even stronger tempered, and eventually MR comes out, their will be some monsters at their absolute most dangerous when they are at low health.

Sighs, new generation getting worse every title....

Well in Rise, i had a sticker with the words "Dont Cap or Kick", i spam it as a quest starter, and you know, mfers still go for it anyway. Its just bleh, so i want a feature in game to set up my quests for Slay only, it the guy doesnt want to slay he can go elsewhere. Setting his filter is Search, Capture Quest or something.

And i do cap myself if we have 1 life left, just for the sake of not wasting time and getting nothing,

Materials are easy to get anyway, i just like a good fight to the end. So iam looking forward for Elder Dragons in this game, its more realistic than getting a feature for quest type set up

[Gravious]

Publicado originalmente por StarExile:

Publicado originalmente por Gravious:

I got Gems from just capturing, it immediately looted 3-4 items upon capture, and gem was in it.

Then I got another Gem in the results screen.

Again, things are different now. They did it this way to prevent players griefing and yelling at each other compared to previous titles. Did you not see how you immediately get 3-4 items upon capturing a monster as if you carved them? That is new to this game, they never did that before.





Thats nice, dont care. If I or any experienced hunter does not A. Get asked to kill or B. Sees you or anyone cart even once, we will capture. If you asked to kill but we seen you or someone else cart two times, we definitely WILL capture. And since you are new, you will understand why later on when even stronger tempered, and eventually MR comes out, their will be some monsters at their absolute most dangerous when they are at low health.

Sighs, new generation getting worse every title....

Well in Rise, i had a sticker with the words "Dont Cap or Kick", i spam it as a quest starter, and you know, mfers still go for it anyway. Its just bleh, so i want a feature in game to set up my quests for Slay only, it the guy doesnt want to slay he can go elsewhere. Setting his filter is Search, Capture Quest or something.

And i do cap myself if we have 1 life left, just for the sake of not wasting time and getting nothing,

Materials are easy to get anyway, i just like a good fight to the end. So iam looking forward for Elder Dragons in this game, its more realistic than getting a feature for quest type set up :sunekosuri:

oh and guess what?

Know why I also prefer to solo with my cat?

Cuz he steals items

Like the Guardian Odogaron GEM he stole for me, just now.

Yep