Pro tip: Turn off the Weapon Coefficient

[AuraFlash]

MH has a habit of grossly over bloating Attack power values of it's weapons compared to it's TRUE Power. If you want to see the True Attack Power Value of your weapons, you can go to options, first tab and on the 3rd page second from the bottom, you will see Weapon Attack Power Display. Turn this to Display Without Coefficient and now you can see it's Real attack power.

[Scipo0419]

Note: this will make your Greatsword display attack values equivalent to a sword and shield. If this upsets you then leave the Coefficient on, but know that the number is a lie. Just like the cake.

[AuraFlash]

Publicado originalmente por Scipo0419:

Note: this will make your Greatsword display attack values equivalent to a sword and shield. If this upsets you then leave the Coefficient on, but know that the number is a lie. Just like the cake.

This is because The greatsword has High Motion values (basically the way each attack's damage is calculated.)

[Scipo0419]

Publicado originalmente por AuraFlash:

Publicado originalmente por Scipo0419:

Note: this will make your Greatsword display attack values equivalent to a sword and shield. If this upsets you then leave the Coefficient on, but know that the number is a lie. Just like the cake.

This is because The greatsword has High Motion values (basically the way each attack's damage is calculated.)

Yeah, I know how it works. The Coefficient inflates the numbers so they more closely reflect the actual damage the weapon will deal after motion values. So with the Coefficient off, a previously 450 Attack Switch Axe might have 160 Attack and an equivalent SnS might also have 160 Attack but turning the Coefficient on will show 250 or 300

Edit:
A specific example is:
Coefficient off:
Bone Kukri III has 170 Attack
Bone Axe III has 170 Attack

Coefficient on:
Bone Kukri III has 238 Attack
Bone Axe III has 595 Attack

[Gill]

I have a very important question: Can my ego handle it?

[Platapoop]

To this day I have no idea why capcom does this. Average people are going to assume that +attack skills give DBs and bows more value than on GS and hammer and what not.

[Scipo0419]

Publicado originalmente por Platapoop:

To this day I have no idea why capcom does this. Average people are going to assume that +attack skills give DBs and bows more value than on GS and hammer and what not.

At least we can turn it off this time instead of needing to data mine/do calculations

[zero]

but my big numbers

[アンジェル]

Publicado originalmente por AuraFlash:

Pro tip: Turn off the Weapon Coefficient
MH has a habit of grossly over bloating Attack power values of it's weapons compared to it's TRUE Power. If you want to see the True Attack Power Value of your weapons, you can go to options, first tab and on the 3rd page second from the bottom, you will see Weapon Attack Power Display. Turn this to Display Without Coefficient and now you can see it's Real attack power.

People know that. It is explained ingame.

[AcidGoose]

Fairly new MH player here, so maybe I'm oversimplifying, but why does this matter? Are you comparing the damage from one weapon type, say a bow, with another, like a GS? Why would you do this? Of course these numbers wouldn't be comparable. If I compare two of the same weapon types, the "true attack power" shouldn't matter. Or am I missing something?

[Jethro]

No.

[ᔑᓭ∴ᔑリ⊣]

Publicado originalmente por AcidGoose:

Fairly new MH player here, so maybe I'm oversimplifying, but why does this matter? Are you comparing the damage from one weapon type, say a bow, with another, like a GS? Why would you do this? Of course these numbers wouldn't be comparable. If I compare two of the same weapon types, the "true attack power" shouldn't matter. Or am I missing something?

you're right, some people just like seeing the real numbers is all. I dont think it has any real benefit on gameplay either

[Scipo0419]

Publicado originalmente por AcidGoose:

Fairly new MH player here, so maybe I'm oversimplifying, but why does this matter? Are you comparing the damage from one weapon type, say a bow, with another, like a GS? Why would you do this? Of course these numbers wouldn't be comparable. If I compare two of the same weapon types, the "true attack power" shouldn't matter. Or am I missing something?

I think the main benefit is from skills like Attack Up. Attack Up lv1 says "+3 Attack" but if you have Coefficients on, the visual increase is much higher than +3, creating a sense of confusion if you're not aware that the numbers are artificially inflated.

Personally, I do compare weapons and it's nice to see that the SnS I'm using with 150 Attack and 140 Element is about as good as my 160 Attack and 120 element Switch Axe. Where with Coefficients on, the Switch Axe has +300 Attack over the SnS.

[NiamhNyx]

It only does that for the Raw though, element keeps its bloat value, which is just 10x.
So if you have 100 fire, you actually have 10.

[Scyris]

Publicado originalmente por Scipo0419:

Publicado originalmente por AcidGoose:

Fairly new MH player here, so maybe I'm oversimplifying, but why does this matter? Are you comparing the damage from one weapon type, say a bow, with another, like a GS? Why would you do this? Of course these numbers wouldn't be comparable. If I compare two of the same weapon types, the "true attack power" shouldn't matter. Or am I missing something?

I think the main benefit is from skills like Attack Up. Attack Up lv1 says "+3 Attack" but if you have Coefficients on, the visual increase is much higher than +3, creating a sense of confusion if you're not aware that the numbers are artificially inflated.

Personally, I do compare weapons and it's nice to see that the SnS I'm using with 150 Attack and 140 Element is about as good as my 160 Attack and 120 element Switch Axe. Where with Coefficients on, the Switch Axe has +300 Attack over the SnS.

I think the coefficent has to do with the max amount of attack value it can hit with in its biggest attack maybe? In which case switch axe has some very hard hitting attacks. Maybe thats how it works? All the bigger heavier weapons tend to have a much higher coefficent since their top end damage "can" be higher with specific moves and I feel thats why its like this.

[SCIM]

I don't even pay attention to the actual numbers, I just use the colour of them to tell if it is a weak spot or not