Spoiler warning: OMG I hate Nata's story so much

[MadeofSand]

Don't get me wrong guys, I love the game but the story in wilds went from decent to absolute ASS.

It's a shame because the story had some really good ideas like for example artificial monsters that were created long ago during a time of war, nature adapting to these new monsters and creating new monsters that prey on these artificial monsters.

But what pisses me off is the out of no where sympathetic spiritual connection that nata and the rest of the crew just follows along.

Nata's character took a straight nose dive, at first you rightfully feel bad for him because Arkveld attacked his village and separated him from his family. But as we get to his village and learn more about the keepers and Arkveld, Nata somehow gets this idea that Arkveld is just like him. WTF did that come from.

Nata is 13 year old child that has lived in a bubble community most of life and just discovered that there are different civilizations and cultures for the first time. Arkveld is an artificial creature, the last of it's kind, that evolved past it's initial purpose and is acting on it's natural instinct as a monster trying to survive. They are NOT the same.

You're telling me Nata feels more empathy for a man-made bio-weapon than the people arkveld killed without hesitation. WTF do you mean you don't want me to kill the monster that is threatening the entire ecosystem and the people you love.

Screw Nata and this new crew for encouraging his naive mentality. I don't even want to begin to talk about the crews stupid decision on how to deal with Zou Shou.

[zero]

as per always: imagine getting this worked up over a child

[Cutthroat Cutwire]

Originally posted by MadeofSand:

You're telling me Nata feels more empathy for a man-made bio-weapon than the people arkveld killed without hesitation.

you'd probably like him better if you didn't make things up to get upset about.

[Jeris]

I can't get worked up over a story I didn't watch. Because it's monster hunter, not a book or movie.

[parent child bowl]

Equating not killing Arkveld with not feeling empathy for it's victims is on a very low moral level.

[Oku]

You people just have absolutely no idea how to read beyond surface level.

Nata was a sheltered kid chained to a very tiny slice of the world based off the decisions of people who died 1000 years ago.

When he learns what Arkveld is and why it’s doing what it’s doing, he feels kinship with it because it’s the exact same way: a life that exists chained to what its creators built it for even 1000 years after they all died.

Nata experiencing the wider world and getting a sense of freedom made him feel empathy for Arkveld who was doing everything it was doing to break its dependency on its long dead creators and to be able to live its own life in the wider world.

Nata is simply becoming what the Hunter’s Guild has always been: concerned for the value of all life and the balance between monster and human civilization. The Guild is an ecological preservation and defense group, not a poaching ring. He feels guilty for Arkveld because his ancestors created it and imprisoned it, and everything it’s doing is a result of that. They disrupted the natural balance and faced the consequences of that. This is the very same balance the Guild exists to protect.

Is it the deepest and most narratively intricate story ever told? No. I would say it could have been done a lot better, but so much of this hate for Nata is so ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ forced and the more you people give your reasons for it the more I’m convinced you just are media illiterate.

You want an actually annoying character that could be removed from the game and by doing so almost nothing would change except every scene would be better? Navirou. Go play Monster Hunter Stories 1 and 2 then come back and tell me how Nata who’s only real offense is being a dumb kid who lived his entire life in a sheltered hidden-from-the-world village and acts like that is so ruinous to the story of this game lol.

[Scipo0419]

So, firstly. He's a child. Pre-teen to early-teen at most. They're not exactly paragons of logical thoughts. I guarantee you thought, said, and did stupid ♥♥♥♥ too that adults said "this kid is a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ moron." at that age. I'll share one, at 10 I thought I could use my jacket as a parachute and jumped off my trampoline with one, catching my foot on the springs pad causing me to faceplate and smash my elbow into the frozen ground (Montana Winter). I guarantee my dad watching me said "that's a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ stupid kid."

Secondly, recognizing that this monster was created and then effectively imprisoned by his ancestors and then acting out and saying "we've done this, we're the monsters." isn't that hard to understand. He said earlier "why!? Why did it attack us!? There has to be a reason!" or something along those lines. Then he found out the reason and is thinking "it wasn't some mindless beast and I wanted to kill it when it's my people's fault it's like this." is a pretty empathetic thought.

Now, the story isn't award winning level, but reducing it down to "he's dumb and whiny" isn't fair either.

[Guest In Disguise]

Originally posted by zero:

as per always: imagine getting this worked up over a child

There are people out there that really just don't like childeren overall.
Can't really speak for them but they might have their own reasons for not liking them.
(I don't excuse people who do death threats or wish death upon them, they are crazy)

[JPM岩]

Originally posted by Oku:

You people just have absolutely no idea how to read beyond surface level.

Nata was a sheltered kid chained to a very tiny slice of the world based off the decisions of people who died 1000 years ago.

When he learns what Arkveld is and why it’s doing what it’s doing, he feels kinship with it because it’s the exact same way: a life that exists chained to what its creators built it for even 1000 years after they all died.

Nata experiencing the wider world and getting a sense of freedom made him feel empathy for Arkveld who was doing everything it was doing to break its dependency on its long dead creators and to be able to live its own life in the wider world.

Nata is simply becoming what the Hunter’s Guild has always been: concerned for the value of all life and the balance between monster and human civilization. The Guild is an ecological preservation and defense group, not a poaching ring.

Is it the deepest and most narratively intricate story ever told? No. I would say it could have been done a lot better, but so much of this hate for Nata is so ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ forced and the more you people give your reasons for it the more I’m convinced you just are media illiterate.

You want an actually annoying character that could be removed from the game and by doing so almost nothing would change except every scene would be better? Navirou. Go play Monster Hunter Stories 1 and 2 then come back and tell me how Nata who’s only real offense is being a dumb kid who lived his entire life in a sheltered hidden-from-the-world village and acts like that is so ruinous to the story of this game lol.

I want to add to this, how it seems all of the natives of the Forbidden Lands just expect things to work properly. The sand people have no weapons because their chimes protect them from monsters. The people of Azuz dont know how their forges work, and it took tony Hawk to come in to fix it for them. They thought the forges were natural structures. And the Keepers cant even read the thousands of books theyre locked up with. None of these people knew you could even kill a monster.
Nata is in the right for just about everything, the people out there are basically deserving to die.

[Scipo0419]

Originally posted by JPM岩:

Originally posted by Oku:

You people just have absolutely no idea how to read beyond surface level.

Nata was a sheltered kid chained to a very tiny slice of the world based off the decisions of people who died 1000 years ago.

When he learns what Arkveld is and why it’s doing what it’s doing, he feels kinship with it because it’s the exact same way: a life that exists chained to what its creators built it for even 1000 years after they all died.

Nata experiencing the wider world and getting a sense of freedom made him feel empathy for Arkveld who was doing everything it was doing to break its dependency on its long dead creators and to be able to live its own life in the wider world.

Nata is simply becoming what the Hunter’s Guild has always been: concerned for the value of all life and the balance between monster and human civilization. The Guild is an ecological preservation and defense group, not a poaching ring.

Is it the deepest and most narratively intricate story ever told? No. I would say it could have been done a lot better, but so much of this hate for Nata is so ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ forced and the more you people give your reasons for it the more I’m convinced you just are media illiterate.

You want an actually annoying character that could be removed from the game and by doing so almost nothing would change except every scene would be better? Navirou. Go play Monster Hunter Stories 1 and 2 then come back and tell me how Nata who’s only real offense is being a dumb kid who lived his entire life in a sheltered hidden-from-the-world village and acts like that is so ruinous to the story of this game lol.

I want to add to this, how it seems all of the natives of the Forbidden Lands just expect things to work properly. The sand people have no weapons because their chimes protect them from monsters. The people of Azuz dont know how their forges work, and it took tony Hawk to come in to fix it for them. They thought the forges were natural structures. And the Keepers cant even read the thousands of books theyre locked up with. None of these people knew you could even kill a monster.
Nata is in the right for just about everything, the people out there are basically deserving to die.

The Forbidden Lands is America after Idiocracy.
"Our crops are dying"
"are you giving them water?"
"like... From the toilet?"

[MadeofSand]

Originally posted by scylla:

Originally posted by MadeofSand:

You're telling me Nata feels more empathy for a man-made bio-weapon than the people arkveld killed without hesitation.

you'd probably like him better if you didn't make things up to get upset about.

It was mentioned that not every keeper was able to get away from arkveld.

[Cutthroat Cutwire]

Originally posted by MadeofSand:

Originally posted by scylla:

you'd probably like him better if you didn't make things up to get upset about.

It was mentioned that not every keeper was able to get away from arkveld.

i was referring more to the accusation that nata cares more about arkveld than he does the keepers, which is total nonsense and based on nothing.

[*******]

BAby Game !

[VitalConflict]

Originally posted by Oku:

You people just have absolutely no idea how to read beyond surface level.

Nata was a sheltered kid chained to a very tiny slice of the world based off the decisions of people who died 1000 years ago.

When he learns what Arkveld is and why it’s doing what it’s doing, he feels kinship with it because it’s the exact same way: a life that exists chained to what its creators built it for even 1000 years after they all died.

Nata experiencing the wider world and getting a sense of freedom made him feel empathy for Arkveld who was doing everything it was doing to break its dependency on its long dead creators and to be able to live its own life in the wider world.

Nata is simply becoming what the Hunter’s Guild has always been: concerned for the value of all life and the balance between monster and human civilization. The Guild is an ecological preservation and defense group, not a poaching ring. He feels guilty for Arkveld because his ancestors created it and imprisoned it, and everything it’s doing is a result of that. They disrupted the natural balance and faced the consequences of that. This is the very same balance the Guild exists to protect.

Is it the deepest and most narratively intricate story ever told? No. I would say it could have been done a lot better, but so much of this hate for Nata is so ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ forced and the more you people give your reasons for it the more I’m convinced you just are media illiterate.

You want an actually annoying character that could be removed from the game and by doing so almost nothing would change except every scene would be better? Navirou. Go play Monster Hunter Stories 1 and 2 then come back and tell me how Nata who’s only real offense is being a dumb kid who lived his entire life in a sheltered hidden-from-the-world village and acts like that is so ruinous to the story of this game lol.

Thank you holy crap, Gamers want a story until it forces them to look at another human beyond surface level and treat them with empathy even when they may be reacting irrationally to a situation that would break anyone else...

[Jay_square]

hold up, this game had a story?!

[MadeofSand]

Originally posted by scylla:

Originally posted by MadeofSand:

It was mentioned that not every keeper was able to get away from arkveld.

i was referring more to the accusation that nata cares more about arkveld than he does the keepers, which is total nonsense and based on nothing.

That's fair, but seeing him empathize more for a monster than the graveyard of his fellow keepers may have given me the wrong impression.