"MHWilds is easy" is a marketing lie

[😎Astran😾]

As a Monster Hunter World / Iceborn day-one purchase player with 500 hours play time - I've carted and failed many matches in MHWilds even before the pinnacle bosses.

Of course, I hadn't wiped ten hours on the MHWorld Nergigante (because 5+ years ago I've followed an advice from some random schmuck to never upgrade my armor till Elder Dragons and Nergigante wasn't Elder) - but still the game keep me on my toes, from the very beginning

From what I understand "the game is easy" is a marketing trick from Capcom to sell more copies and shame people to play more

[Terron]

Opprinnelig skrevet av LostSoul:

cat heals and paras 5 times, hunts go 5 min max, healing and sharpening via Sekrits makes the game ez mode, no grinding. wounds are op and every weapon has some kind of parry. Is the easiest so far from the main line.

100 percent. The further you go back the harder the games got. I still cant believe you can fully restock between carts lol. That change alone made in world means you can chug mega potions as much as you like really and its been that way since. I am loving modern monster hunter but older MH was much harder. Even now if I go back and play them they are way harder imo.

[Andi]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Benb4ss:

Anyone who says it's easy are either cheating with overpowered weapons on weak monsters or don't mind dodging an enrage monster for 20 minutes.
It was the same with Worlds, you cannot find a single youtube video where someone plays with a mediocre gear and weapons without having to perfect dodge the monster like they are doing a speedrun of a Souls game...

people cart left and right to tempered monsters still. but as you know, everyone is a pro gamer here on the forums.

[Rampage]

Opprinnelig skrevet av 😎𝔸𝕤𝕥𝕣𝕒𝕟😾:

I'm alt+f4-ing third Gore Magala attempt in a row after carting two times in five minutes, this thing does not look easy at all :lunar2019shockedpig:

edit: about "skill issue" - in PvP games I'm in top-20% metric usually, am better than the 80% of the humanity.

And then everybody stood up and clapped!

[Sleepy]

Nah, it's easy. HR 86, 0 fails, less than 10 total carts. Get through most tempered apex without using any potions in under 15 minutes.

Wounds are a big part of what makes Wilds so easy. You can stack up free insta staggers all over the place. Very frequently can get chain knockdowns. Have played mostly solo, but MP is mega easy. Most fights the monster barely gets to attack and are done in 5-10m. Yes, even tempered apex.

Looks something like: mount -> back and head wound -> power attack back -> knockdown and attack head -> focus strike head wound when it's starting to get back up -> paralyze -> knockdown -> shock trap -> wound strikes -> knockdown -> flees -> little more damage and cap in second area.

Though often enough you'll get knockdown -> knockdown and the thing gets bodied even harder.

[Vahvi]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Sleepy:

Nah, it's easy. HR 86, 0 fails, less than 10 total carts. Get through most tempered apex without using any potions in under 15 minutes.

Wounds are a big part of what makes Wilds so easy. You can stack up free insta staggers all over the place. Very frequently can get chain knockdowns. Have played mostly solo, but MP is mega easy. Most fights the monster barely gets to attack and are done in 5-10m. Yes, even tempered apex.

Looks something like: mount -> back and head wound -> power attack back -> knockdown and attack head -> focus strike head wound when it's starting to get back up -> paralyze -> knockdown -> shock trap -> wound strikes -> knockdown -> flees -> little more damage and cap in second area.

Though often enough you'll get knockdown -> knockdown and the thing gets bodied even harder.

Two other things, a good number of the monsters pause a lot and exhaust rather fast.

[shadow_otm]

I see a lot of "I've played since the days in the trenches of bad hitboxes and my character needing to flex after drinking a potion, this game is far too easy now" Like yeah, dude, you have skills the new players don't. Literally had a friend in voice chat saying how he's having a smoother start than World because his experience playing World carries over in how to play this game. Honestly though this seems to be the new trend because I heard a lot of "Wow, Rise is way too easy because I have a dog to carry me to the monster and wire bug to evade everything!" You did a 5 minute speedrun hunt on a tempered monster? Good for you, we don't care! We still won't care when you try to say you did a blindfolded Alatreon hunt! Those of us trying to figure out our builds are too busy carving monsters to care about how much you feel about game difficulty!

[Yu Ryujin]

Opprinnelig skrevet av 😎𝔸𝕤𝕥𝕣𝕒𝕟😾:

As a Monster Hunter World / Iceborn day-one purchase player with 500 hours play time - I've carted and failed many matches in MHWilds even before the pinnacle bosses.

Of course, I hadn't wiped ten hours on the MHWorld Nergigante (because 5+ years ago I've followed an advice from some random schmuck to never upgrade my armor till Elder Dragons and Nergigante wasn't Elder) - but still the game keep me on my toes, from the very beginning :lunar2019shockedpig:

From what I understand "the game is easy" is a marketing trick from Capcom to sell more copies and shame people to play more :lunar2019madpig:

you probably are pretty bad at gaming then?

if you cart on things that most people kill in 3 min or 9 max without even lost 50 percent of their hp, I think the lie lies elsewhere.

[Kenshi]

The game might be easy now, but I'd say wait for the xpack, master / G Rank monsters. Hopefully then it will be challenging.

[Sleepy]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Kenshi †:

The game might be easy now, but I'd say wait for the xpack, master / G Rank monsters. Hopefully then it will be challenging.

I hope so too, but it's going to be hard to fix with the wound system. It's just way too OP, they can fix some of the timings, damage numbers, etc, but being able to stagger things constantly like this means none of that is going to matter unless they figure something out with wounds.

Opprinnelig skrevet av shadow_otm:

I see a lot of "I've played since the days in the trenches of bad hitboxes and my character needing to flex after drinking a potion, this game is far too easy now" Like yeah, dude, you have skills the new players don't.

I've had people ask "when does this game get hard?, who have never played any MH game before.

[shadow_otm]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Sleepy:

I've had people ask "when does this game get hard?, who have never played any MH game before.

Tell them to go back to doing no-hit runs on Elden Ring?

[Leelareso]

compared to mh world tempered monsters in base game wilds is easy as hell

[IGull]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Leelareso:

compared to mh world tempered monsters in base game wilds is easy as hell

What are you on about, World was a joke at launch too if not more lmao

[Yu Ryujin]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Sleepy:

Opprinnelig skrevet av Kenshi †:

The game might be easy now, but I'd say wait for the xpack, master / G Rank monsters. Hopefully then it will be challenging.

I hope so too, but it's going to be hard to fix with the wound system. It's just way too OP, they can fix some of the timings, damage numbers, etc, but being able to stagger things constantly like this means none of that is going to matter unless they figure something out with wounds.

Opprinnelig skrevet av shadow_otm:

I see a lot of "I've played since the days in the trenches of bad hitboxes and my character needing to flex after drinking a potion, this game is far too easy now" Like yeah, dude, you have skills the new players don't.

I've had people ask "when does this game get hard?, who have never played any MH game before.

The real dude here, the last sentence says A LOT about Wilds, and its completely true.

I remember new people in world trashing the game so hard because they were dying and farming. They still do, but in the end half of the new ones enjoy it.

Wilds is all the contrary

Opprinnelig skrevet av IGull:

Opprinnelig skrevet av Leelareso:

compared to mh world tempered monsters in base game wilds is easy as hell

What are you on about, World was a joke at launch too if not more lmao

Be sincere. you gotta be sincere.

[Trusty]

Its almost as easy as RISE and Rise is a complete joke of a mh game. Not saying rise is bad either but the wirebug made us to nimble Wilds made everyone do G rank damage in HR and gave the monsters 50% more life which isn't nearly enough.

[Nyxtus]

You would have to waterboard me to get this out of me.