Gemma's design makes no sense for a smith.

[The Hand]

If you want lewd smith do apron with side boob and cleavage i don't mind sexy. Her hair is INSANE for a forge with all those moving parts and just smith work in general. That little braid? that will catch on fire, her belly showing is bad for smithy, no hair covering.

She looks like she was made with another role in mind.

Edit: You can say it's a game, It's not real,etc all you want it's just weird to me as they keep trying to move towards being more serious and realistic in some places but they make this bizarre design for a smith. She would have been better as a handler or something else with that design. She reminds me of the one bounty lady from world.

Edit 2: Again I don't mind how much skin she's showing it's more how it's showing for her role. If she was Handler, Bounty lady like world, or something else it wouldn't bug me at all. It's just an argument of I don't like it because it does not fit her role. Anyone arguing otherwise is missing the point.

She doesn't have the giant mitts of Little Miss Forge who has straps for lifting her overalls which COULD protect her in the forge. Mitts young smith in Iceborne has and I think even the original smith has, BOTH have belly protection which if your not aware is where sparks are most likely to hit. BOTH don't have hair dangling right by working parts (beard for original World smith is arguable). The young hunter even has his hair back it's much shorter and the guys in the back working use leather aprons.

They cared in World. They had a design that made sense. If you want sexy smith it's not hard and I like that too. Gemma is just awful design for a smith.

What the hunter wears does not affect her. Little Miss Forge at least had a GIANT hammer, Mitts, and overalls that could protect her. Hell Little Miss Forge didn't have a stupid half jacket thats going to trap hot air blasting out the forge and sweat her out.

Edit 3: Layered Armor and your Hunter creations are your choices in how you engage the world. You choosing to not engage in any level of realism to the games world (or lack of choice in regards of maintaining enjoyment) isn't an excuse for an NPC who is shaped by developers over several hours of work from multiple people to match the world.

Also how often is video game logic known to not be an excuse? Seems dishonest to try that. And even with that logic remember Cool Drink is a thing to prevent damage from heat. I'm quite sure plenty of you would be very engaged in watching an animation of sweaty Gemma gulping down a Cool Drink to stay cool. But Cool Drinks don't stop burns so even then.

Edit 4: Because many seem to unable to comprehend this I will clarify. It’s not purely about realism. It’s more about the departure from previous design within the games universe for the other human blacksmith’s.

Especially when Gemma has a much larger focus on her than any other blacksmith in the series as far as I can recall.

[Powercrank]

and 90% of the armor and weapon designs make no sense for fighting anything, let alone giant monsters but for some reason that doesn't seem to bother you.
Why don't you just admit that pretty girl characters make you uncomfortable?

[The Hand]

Originally posted by Powercrank:

and 90% of the armor and weapon designs make no sense for fighting anything, let alone giant monsters but for some reason that doesn't seem to bother you.
Why don't you just admit that pretty girl characters make you uncomfortable?

I advocated for the same amount or even (arguably) less coverage for her just in a different matter. And mentioning other armor has nothing to do when comparing Gemma’s to other smiths in the series.

[The Hand]

Originally posted by JPM岩:

Originally posted by The Hand:

demigods that take damage from heat. So weak to smell they can't stomach their medicine (items) after pink fart monkey farts.

Also in the "lore" that person isn't a human that's a wyverian and other smiths in the games wear aprons so again invalid. Our humans aren't immune. And Gemma isn't a hunter so not a demigod and thus many excuses don't apply.

Also it's normies that dismiss details because they like a thing and don't like hearing otherwise. Yet I'm sure you praise the same level of detail others might complain are missing.

IDK what youre saying here, Trovans are their own race, not Wyverians. But again, Gemma is human, was raised in an active volcano since an infant, and was taught by The Man, one of the greatest wyverian blacksmiths, who was also shirtless.

Originally posted by ComposedJam:

To add to this I want to say that treating fanservice characters like this, or female characters that show skin, further pushes women into "object territory"

We wouldn't have even half these complaints if the smithy was a shirtless dude

The problem with people like this started in 1919, and we've gone downhill since.

When i double checked who The Man was it said he was a Wyverian. It doesnt matter what race he was little Miss Forge was human and has huge overalls straps she can lift to cover herself when needed and her outfit is much more protective than Gemmas .

As far as im aware you dont get cutscenes of her forging like you do in Wilds so intuition would lead to belief thatshe MAY use when need as well as her hammer being so long she doesn’t always need the protection with those massive puffy sleeves, protecting her from direct heat at an age which she would be even more used to the heat from living in a volcano.

Little Miss Forge decimates any argument that Gemma makes sense because Little Miss Forge is a better design. She has better hair protection with a handkerchief at the front of her head and a longer tool as well. So the risk of fire catching is reduced. And you have room for suspension of disbelief due to lack of cut scene and older games having limited animations in general.

[Powercrank]

Originally posted by The Hand:

Originally posted by Powercrank:

and 90% of the armor and weapon designs make no sense for fighting anything, let alone giant monsters but for some reason that doesn't seem to bother you.
Why don't you just admit that pretty girl characters make you uncomfortable?

I advocated for the same amount or even (arguably) less coverage for her just in a different matter. And mentioning other armor has nothing to do when comparing Gemma’s to other smiths in the series.

bro some of the smiths are literally cats
who do you think you're kidding

and yes, you selectively applying real life logic to specific things is very relevant, because it makes... no sense.

[KingOfFriedChicken]

Originally posted by Powercrank:

Originally posted by The Hand:

I advocated for the same amount or even (arguably) less coverage for her just in a different matter. And mentioning other armor has nothing to do when comparing Gemma’s to other smiths in the series.

bro some of the smiths are literally cats
who do you think you're kidding

and yes, you selectively applying real life logic to specific things is very relevant, because it makes... no sense.

Imagine a cat like creature smiting they would be bald pretty fast from the heat 🤣 not to mention how cats just grab anything rofl

I don't understand the logic behind trying to full realism games unless the games intent is "realism"

[Hundezahn]

It's bad design. But like many things, if it tickles the D, the masses will love it.

[Keveat]

preach brother

[Kuma]

Sounds like just a petty excuse just to attack Gemma, she is doing a men job and she is showing her feminity very proudly, she looks great and that's it.
If we going down this hole we do not get out, you are carving imaginary gems that give you resistance to various elements even if you are in undies, what if her outfit is full of fire resistance decorations uh? with 30+ fire resistance you don't even catch fire so all this reason goes down the flush. Maybe all monster hunter smiths have special fire resistance outfits? Do we need this kind of info? No. It's a game where you could very well hunt a dragon with just a pair of panties and ride it.

[The Hand]

Originally posted by Kuma:

Sounds like just a petty excuse just to attack Gemma, she is doing a men job and she is showing her feminity very proudly, she looks great and that's it.
If we going down this hole we do not get out, you are carving imaginary gems that give you resistance to various elements even if you are in undies, what if her outfit is full of fire resistance decorations uh? with 30+ fire resistance you don't even catch fire so all this reason goes down the flush. Maybe all monster hunter smiths have special fire resistance outfits? Do we need this kind of info? No. It's a game where you could very well hunt a dragon with just a pair of panties and ride it.

Literally never mentioned anything about her being a women being the issue. If she has fire decos then by your logic why not naked? See how lazy that arguement is? And the facts are that the other smiths all have better designed smith outfits. Even the old outfit of Little Miss Forge fits better. This argument is worthless when the other games have already addressed this.

[The Hand]

Originally posted by KingOfFriedChicken:

Originally posted by Powercrank:

bro some of the smiths are literally cats
who do you think you're kidding

and yes, you selectively applying real life logic to specific things is very relevant, because it makes... no sense.

Imagine a cat like creature smiting they would be bald pretty fast from the heat 🤣 not to mention how cats just grab anything rofl

I don't understand the logic behind trying to full realism games unless the games intent is "realism"

Never said full realism thats a strawman. And other smiths in the games have better smithing outfits. And its quite consistent throughout the series just how insanely durable palicos are as compared to Humans which is what Gemma is.

[Ryvaku]

Doesn't understand that less clothes equals more protection.

[Gruff]

You murder dragons with a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ cat.

[Kuma]

Originally posted by The Hand:

Originally posted by Kuma:

Sounds like just a petty excuse just to attack Gemma, she is doing a men job and she is showing her feminity very proudly, she looks great and that's it.
If we going down this hole we do not get out, you are carving imaginary gems that give you resistance to various elements even if you are in undies, what if her outfit is full of fire resistance decorations uh? with 30+ fire resistance you don't even catch fire so all this reason goes down the flush. Maybe all monster hunter smiths have special fire resistance outfits? Do we need this kind of info? No. It's a game where you could very well hunt a dragon with just a pair of panties and ride it.

Literally never mentioned anything about her being a women being the issue. If she has fire decos then by your logic why not naked? See how lazy that arguement is? And the facts are that the other smiths all have better designed smith outfits. Even the old outfit of Little Miss Forge fits better. This argument is worthless when the other games have already addressed this.

It's not worthless, you are making it worthless because you want it to be right. She has an outfit because that's character design, someone thought to make her dress like that and designed it. End of story, rest is just YOU being annoyed by it and trying to find unexistant logic where a game has a complete fantasy setting.

[The Hand]

Originally posted by Powercrank:

Originally posted by The Hand:

I advocated for the same amount or even (arguably) less coverage for her just in a different matter. And mentioning other armor has nothing to do when comparing Gemma’s to other smiths in the series.

bro some of the smiths are literally cats
who do you think you're kidding

and yes, you selectively applying real life logic to specific things is very relevant, because it makes... no sense.

It does’t matter because my opinion is formed based on internal consistency. The original post has nothing to do with armor in the game. I have my own separate issues with those armors but monster Hunter has consistently designed armor that way, so I do not complain about the consistent design.

And Palicos are several times more durable than hunters able to survive things like Fatalis Insta kill moves if you want to go down that line of logic. Gemma is a human and I am basing my opinion on the other human blacksmiths.

[The Hand]

Originally posted by Kuma:

Originally posted by The Hand:

Literally never mentioned anything about her being a women being the issue. If she has fire decos then by your logic why not naked? See how lazy that arguement is? And the facts are that the other smiths all have better designed smith outfits. Even the old outfit of Little Miss Forge fits better. This argument is worthless when the other games have already addressed this.

It's not worthless, you are making it worthless because you want it to be right. She has an outfit because that's character design, someone thought to make her dress like that and designed it. End of story, rest is just YOU being annoyed by it and trying to find unexistant logic where a game has a complete fantasy setting.

The only complete fantasy setting is your logic.

All design is based on something how well that is implemented depends on the creator. The death of the author is something specifically the line between intentions and what was actually created. You’re stomping your foot and saying it’s just that is lazy.

Even if it’s meaningless, I am at least trying to explain why I have the opinion that I have and I am OK with the futility of that. A lot of of the love I have for monster Hunter, silly armor and weapons, and all else is seeing and knowing the inspirations, origins and logic behind much of the world.

Gemma is simply a departure from much of the consistent design where, even though we deal with multiple cultures of the world blacksmiths for the most part have been consistently designed in how fitting their design is. Gemma is not only worse in this aspect, but she is much more focused on than I remember ever seeing any smith in any of the games. That’s where frustration builds as you are forced to acknowledge her to a much greater degree than any other Smith that I can recall in the series.