Monster Hunter Wilds

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Where is the ELDIES!?
Reached HR ending. No Classic Elder Dragons Appearing, have i only reach a fake HR ending or there is really no classic Eldies like Daora, Teostra, Kirin, etc
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Originally posted by Sono:
is the final boss not an elder?

Best I can tell, the final boss of Low Rank isn't an Elder but something else.

The only thing that could be classified as an Elder here *might* be Jin Dihaad, for the same reasons other exceptionally large monsters have been called such in the past. The big reason that Elder Dragons are labeled as such is because they affect the world around them just by existing. Kushala creates storms, Teostra creates wildfires, etc.

This would mean that *maybe* the other three area apex predators could be Elders as well, but as the Guild seemed to recognize them on sight, they'd have probably been called such. Also, they seem to have adapted to the surges around them, they don't actually create them.

The boss of Low Rank is... Well, despite the fact that it's a Guardian (and thus artificially created), and that it's just the end of Low Rank, it's a monster that destroyed an ancient civilization, was called a "calamity" in the description of such, tapped into a natural source of immense power, and seems to control multiple elements. This implies that it's a black dragon, in the same category as Fatalis and Alatreon.
Originally posted by BreOfAnna:
Originally posted by Jakarta's Stray Dog:

WHAT THE FRICK, MATE!? no eldies????? Man, they really dropping in quality compared to 5th gen. what the frick, capcom??

Did ever occur to you that they have a good reason not to have any Elders upon release? They likely have a roadmap already, and plan on giving us elders either with a Title Update or they're saving them for the future Expansion.

Not a big deal.

Mate do you realize how weak that argument is?

i don't need to wait for them in Monster Hunter World because 7 of them is already in patch 1.0.0.0 of the game KD, Teostra, Zorah, Nergigante, XJ, Kirin, VH. in the fricking base game of world, Day one!

the fact that 0, null, zilch of them exist in WILD, patch 0, day one is a clear drop in quality of monster variety.

what is the good reason when they can give 7 ELDER DRAGONS in World but not in Wild, not even one. they got the model there, they got the skeleton for the model there, they got the move/attack animation there, they got some armor model there. all they need is new lore, or use pre existing lore, or whatver they cook for new elder dragon, but not having even single of them on launch is inexcusable oversight/lazyness/design. it is indefensible
Originally posted by Chippawaffen:
Originally posted by Jakarta's Stray Dog:

WHAT THE FRICK, MATE!? no eldies????? Man, they really dropping in quality compared to 5th gen. what the frick, capcom??

The devs said they had been dropping too many elder dragons that they didn't seem special anymore. wanted to focus on Apexes and Guardian

we'll definitely get Shagaru Magala/Chaotic Gore Magala

if do get any before G ranks i would think they would be guardian variants. This a new realm is pretty in line with the balance of the weather so an elder dragon would be more devastating than normal....also some zones are kinda small for them imo. Iceshard Cliffs and kush would feel like an old MH nightmare

it'll be the classic the EDs are seen at the problem, but really it was something else forcing them into these new areas as per classic MH story telling.

now this is actually a good reason why they did not have the classic line up of elder dragon. but they could give us one new elder dragon in the game. i can't believe they cooked up all these enviroments and lore but not adding one? When i saw the hole in the mountain that the dragontorch fired on i thought, damn that must be one nasty elder dragon that they shoot at, but then i progress thru entire game and not find even single one of them, not even something kirin sized
Soul Mar 4 @ 8:30pm 
im just tossing a theory I have....

but I think they will probably bring in elder dragons later on down the line....


reason for this is because of the guardians.... like in the story they created the guardians to protect them.... and it mentioned a war... but I think there might have been something else to spur the creation of creating monsters...

or at least with them creating extinct species... there could be a high chance of a deeper facility with guardian elder dragons that were probably more unpredictable to control

in worlds there was the everstream.... Xeno was siphoning off of that to grow.... and after slaying him tempered monsters started spawning afterwards and even elder dragons became tempered....

in wilds... there is the landspine... which is basically like an artificial everstream.... and zoh shia... which was siphoning off the dragon torch to grow... and after slaying him tempered monsters started to appear... and guardians become tempered... so lots of similarities that the forbidden lands was essentially an artificially created "new world" type of biome...

ancient wyverians were found in monster hunter worlds... and they always seemed to have a knowledge of what was going on with Xeno.... giving the players guidance and such in that game.... so its possible that they knew of Xeno's existence and either created artifical monsters to counter it or perhaps were already working on making their own guardian Xeno...

and possibly with how doing the plunderblade quest for your palico they mention the new world from monster hunter worlds and the grimvalkryies having taught those hunters... it opens a door to more lore connection between the 2.... like story wise its seen as the new world had just recently discovered this ability.... which in worlds that would be by the time you reach the rotten vale which is about halfway through that game.... so it appears both worlds and wilds are taking place around the same timeframe... which if they were monitoring Xeno or knew of its existence... chances are they might have had counter measures to activate when Xeno wakes up...

but even if thats not the case... the point you learn plunderblade in world is about halfway through in low rank.... the point you learn plunderblade based off of world in wilds is about 3/4th into the game... given distance with communication and such its possible that their their either in sync or wilds is slightly ahead.... so whatever transpires in world could have an impact on wilds story... i'd say that quest opened the door at least to establish that possibility...

also given how the weather changes in those areas.... i wouldnt be surprised if later on we find out the real source of "why".... I mean they said they can alter the weather to what they want.... so its possible that there are elder dragons behind it as a power source of some kind.... and perhaps Zoh Shia was created as a counter in case the elders were too hard to control or something to siphon energy from the dragontorch in hopes to keep them dormant...

and with the introduction of frenzy in wilds.... there is an open investigation into that that the guild leader is going to dig into to investigate.... so the door is open there that we could see things combine together... like frenzied guardian elder dragons possibly being "contained"


so lots of possibilities of what could be exposed further down the line in perhaps a future DLC or just regular updates.... which I find to be rather nice....

I mean monster hunter world iceborne was great and all and I loved it... but it kinda was out in left field to the main story... I mean base monster hunter world there were no hints to what was gonna transpire for iceborne.... and its like some characters like your handler just had character development out of nowwhere.... it was nice but no buildup through the base main game.... it was more like one book and the DLC was a sequel...

in wilds though there is enough mystery left over that the story has potential to expand more like one solid story.... with the hints and such in the main game left unanswered and still a mystery to be solved.... like the source of the dragon torch and the real purpose of the guardians... so far there is just speculation among the hunters... but there is also that huge library the keepers have that could uncover a lot more info... but I also think the base game of wilds has a lot of breadcrumbs that are scattered about that could make the future DLC in wilds more connected than iceborne did for worlds...
NoRa_G Mar 4 @ 8:34pm 
It just came out
Venator Mar 4 @ 8:39pm 
Gore Magala is an elder dragon
Originally posted by Venator:
Gore Magala is an elder dragon
u can capture him
Originally posted by KECHAWACHA:
It just came out

"It just came out"

well whoop freaking doo, every single mainline monster hunter title up until this one title has elder dragons when it came out. bad excuse
AlbinoFrog Mar 4 @ 8:52pm 
Originally posted by Fluffy Monster Thing:
Originally posted by Khergit Horse Archer:
wait the end of story dragon that saps the wyvern milk isnt an elder?

It would technically be considered one because the only criteria for being an elder dragon is "be really old and strong" and gameplay wise "ignore pitfalls and shock traps". This makes makes Jin Dahaad an elder too by technicality?

Neither of those are criteria for being an elder dragon. A monster doesn't have to be old or strong to be classified as an elder dragon. The guild uses the classification of "Elder Dragon" to refer to any monster that they can't classify as anything else. There are actually pretty weak monsters (comparatively) that are considered Elder Dragons in lore, like Yama Tsukami and Chameleos, that are only classified that way because they are unlike anything else. The guild's classifications are purely for ecological/taxonomy reason. They are not an indicator of strength. If classifications were based on strength and age alone then monsters like Akantor would be Elder Dragons, but they aren't. Hell, some Elder Dragons are hunter by non-Elder Dragons.

Also Jin Dahaad can be caught in traps, so can Gore Magala. Further proof that neither of them are Elder Dragons.


Originally posted by Venator:
Gore Magala is an elder dragon

Gore Magala is not an Elder Dragon, technically. It is in a class of it's own previously called the "???" classification. Up until this game where it was given the classification of "Demi Elder Dragon" for some reason. Although GM should be if Capcom wanted to be consistent with the classification of Elder Dragon babies since Xeno'jiiva is classified as an Elder Dragon in lore.
Originally posted by Soul:
im just tossing a theory I have....

but I think they will probably bring in elder dragons later on down the line....


reason for this is because of the guardians.... like in the story they created the guardians to protect them.... and it mentioned a war... but I think there might have been something else to spur the creation of creating monsters...

or at least with them creating extinct species... there could be a high chance of a deeper facility with guardian elder dragons that were probably more unpredictable to control

in worlds there was the everstream.... Xeno was siphoning off of that to grow.... and after slaying him tempered monsters started spawning afterwards and even elder dragons became tempered....

in wilds... there is the landspine... which is basically like an artificial everstream.... and zoh shia... which was siphoning off the dragon torch to grow... and after slaying him tempered monsters started to appear... and guardians become tempered... so lots of similarities that the forbidden lands was essentially an artificially created "new world" type of biome...

ancient wyverians were found in monster hunter worlds... and they always seemed to have a knowledge of what was going on with Xeno.... giving the players guidance and such in that game.... so its possible that they knew of Xeno's existence and either created artifical monsters to counter it or perhaps were already working on making their own guardian Xeno...

and possibly with how doing the plunderblade quest for your palico they mention the new world from monster hunter worlds and the grimvalkryies having taught those hunters... it opens a door to more lore connection between the 2.... like story wise its seen as the new world had just recently discovered this ability.... which in worlds that would be by the time you reach the rotten vale which is about halfway through that game.... so it appears both worlds and wilds are taking place around the same timeframe... which if they were monitoring Xeno or knew of its existence... chances are they might have had counter measures to activate when Xeno wakes up...

but even if thats not the case... the point you learn plunderblade in world is about halfway through in low rank.... the point you learn plunderblade based off of world in wilds is about 3/4th into the game... given distance with communication and such its possible that their their either in sync or wilds is slightly ahead.... so whatever transpires in world could have an impact on wilds story... i'd say that quest opened the door at least to establish that possibility...

also given how the weather changes in those areas.... i wouldnt be surprised if later on we find out the real source of "why".... I mean they said they can alter the weather to what they want.... so its possible that there are elder dragons behind it as a power source of some kind.... and perhaps Zoh Shia was created as a counter in case the elders were too hard to control or something to siphon energy from the dragontorch in hopes to keep them dormant...

and with the introduction of frenzy in wilds.... there is an open investigation into that that the guild leader is going to dig into to investigate.... so the door is open there that we could see things combine together... like frenzied guardian elder dragons possibly being "contained"


so lots of possibilities of what could be exposed further down the line in perhaps a future DLC or just regular updates.... which I find to be rather nice....

I mean monster hunter world iceborne was great and all and I loved it... but it kinda was out in left field to the main story... I mean base monster hunter world there were no hints to what was gonna transpire for iceborne.... and its like some characters like your handler just had character development out of nowwhere.... it was nice but no buildup through the base main game.... it was more like one book and the DLC was a sequel...

in wilds though there is enough mystery left over that the story has potential to expand more like one solid story.... with the hints and such in the main game left unanswered and still a mystery to be solved.... like the source of the dragon torch and the real purpose of the guardians... so far there is just speculation among the hunters... but there is also that huge library the keepers have that could uncover a lot more info... but I also think the base game of wilds has a lot of breadcrumbs that are scattered about that could make the future DLC in wilds more connected than iceborne did for worlds...

i like this theory, really i do. but they could at least left a placeholder elder dragon, two or threes of those and it will satisfy people and it even tied out the number of large monster to 30. and why can't all the anomolous thing in relation with the old tech not attract any elder dragon. it's just bizzare because elder dragon is known to be attracted to any anomalies or abudance of energy/elemental energy
Originally posted by Jakarta's Stray Dog:
Originally posted by KECHAWACHA:
It just came out

"It just came out"

well whoop freaking doo, every single mainline monster hunter title up until this one title has elder dragons when it came out. bad excuse
Right now were the the story is and them focusing on the ecosystems elders don't make sense. They even said the elders have been in too much and don't feel special anymore.
$70 game with about 30-45 hours of actual content. I started to repeat grind the same mobs just to have something to do to try and keep the enjoyment up. This MH is weak compared to previous launches. Name any other MH titles and I'll tell you they had way more to do at launch.
Originally posted by TrashCandy™:
$70 game with about 30-45 hours of actual content. I started to repeat grind the same mobs just to have something to do to try and keep the enjoyment up. This MH is weak compared to previous launches. Name any other MH titles and I'll tell you they had way more to do at launch.
Monster Hunter Tri. I dare you to say Tri had way more to do in it than Wilds.
Originally posted by TrashCandy™:
$70 game with about 30-45 hours of actual content. I started to repeat grind the same mobs just to have something to do to try and keep the enjoyment up. This MH is weak compared to previous launches. Name any other MH titles and I'll tell you they had way more to do at launch.

MonHun 1, MonHun 2, Generations, Rise. They all had less.



Also you have 25k hours in Black Desert so your opinion is worthless.
Last edited by AlbinoFrog; Mar 4 @ 10:46pm
Originally posted by TrashCandy™:
$70 game with about 30-45 hours of actual content. I started to repeat grind the same mobs just to have something to do to try and keep the enjoyment up. This MH is weak compared to previous launches. Name any other MH titles and I'll tell you they had way more to do at launch.
Tri. Unless you had online (still the best game imo) this only has like 1 large monster less than world at launch, 2 if you don't count the story boss.
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