Please be more like Rise, less like World

[Shaquan Don]

I know it has the same art style as world but I really hope this plays more like Rise. I really enjoyed how fast paced Rise is. As someone who has literally played every game and started with MH on ps2 world was my least favorite MH game. Bad weapon and armor design in the series.

[del_bosque_dol]

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Special investigation that I wrote. You must read.

Feel free to pull the numbers yourself, there are only two quests with Risen Shagaru numbers and the lowest HP value possible is 67,500 which is still ~3x higher than the highest Lagombi/Snowbaron HP

I'm not denying that GU feels harder, because it really, really is and anyone who's fought Redhelm Arzuros can tell you that. But HP isn't why it's harder.

You are bringing MR quests sources, and special investigation is very end game.

It took 5 secs exactly to debunk you. Why do you bother things that you have NOT even played?

[Scipo0419]

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Feel free to pull the numbers yourself, there are only two quests with Risen Shagaru numbers and the lowest HP value possible is 67,500 which is still ~3x higher than the highest Lagombi/Snowbaron HP

I'm not denying that GU feels harder, because it really, really is and anyone who's fought Redhelm Arzuros can tell you that. But HP isn't why it's harder.

You are bringing MR quests sources, and special investigation is very end game.

It took 5 secs exactly to debunk you. Why do you bother things that you have NOT even played?

OK, where's the HP numbers? Kiranico is the standard for datamined values and isn't reflecting the <24,750 required to have less HP than a Snowbaron Lagombi.

I could tell you that Gore Magala has 800 Billion HP but without a source I'm as good as lying. You haven't provided any sources other than "trust me, bro." and I have. My sources are giving numbers that show Rise monsters have more HP than GU monsters.

[del_bosque_dol]

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You are bringing MR quests sources, and special investigation is very end game.

It took 5 secs exactly to debunk you. Why do you bother things that you have NOT even played?

OK, where's the HP numbers? Kiranico is the standard for datamined values and isn't reflecting the <24,750 required to have less HP than a Snowbaron Lagombi.

I could tell you that Gore Magala has 800 Billion HP but without a source I'm as good as lying. You haven't provided any sources other than "trust me, bro." and I have. My sources are giving numbers that show Rise monsters have more HP than GU monsters.

Special investigation (57 monsters) HP
BOTTOM 5
1. Risen Teostra 120,400
2. Risen Chameleos, Risen Kushala Daora & Risen Shagaru Magala 124,000
5. Risen Crimson Glow Valstrax 131,600

Lagombi 144,000 (placed No.49)

[Good Night Owl]

I hope for the opposite. Rise has the same problem that I have with the God Eater franchise. They made all weapons feel the same. Every weapon is fast, every weapon can be air based. With World, there was something for everyone. An aspect removed in Rise. The player retention reflects this.

[Scipo0419]

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OK, where's the HP numbers? Kiranico is the standard for datamined values and isn't reflecting the <24,750 required to have less HP than a Snowbaron Lagombi.

I could tell you that Gore Magala has 800 Billion HP but without a source I'm as good as lying. You haven't provided any sources other than "trust me, bro." and I have. My sources are giving numbers that show Rise monsters have more HP than GU monsters.

Special investigation (57 monsters) HP
BOTTOM 5
1. Risen Teostra 120,400
2. Risen Chameleos, Risen Kushala Daora & Risen Shagaru Magala 124,000
5. Risen Crimson Glow Valstrax 131,600

Lagombi 144,000 (placed No.49)

Okay, I see you don't understand what "source" means. So I'm going to give you my list.

Special Investigations (65 Monsters) HP:
BOTTOM 5
1. Great Jagras 369,000
2. Pukei-Pukei 750,000
5. Kecha Wacha 765,592

Great Jaggi: 8,675,309 (placed No.1)

[Consoomer#911420]

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Special investigation (57 monsters) HP
BOTTOM 5
1. Risen Teostra 120,400
2. Risen Chameleos, Risen Kushala Daora & Risen Shagaru Magala 124,000
5. Risen Crimson Glow Valstrax 131,600

Lagombi 144,000 (placed No.49)

Okay, I see you don't understand what "source" means. So I'm going to give you my list.

Special Investigations (65 Monsters) HP:
BOTTOM 5
1. Great Jagras 369,000
2. Pukei-Pukei 750,000
5. Kecha Wacha 765,592

Great Jaggi: 8,675,309 (placed No.1)

Your mistake was expecting him to know how to read

[chndrawijaya00]

Good Night Owl の投稿を引用：

I hope for the opposite. Rise has the same problem that I have with the God Eater franchise. They made all weapons feel the same. Every weapon is fast, every weapon can be air based. With World, there was something for everyone. An aspect removed in Rise. The player retention reflects this.

While im good with both...one of reason i like world more..is this , every swing of weapon , the weight , u can tell hunter put effort into it..while in rise...its more like "monster may cry"

[del_bosque_dol]

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Special investigation (57 monsters) HP
BOTTOM 5
1. Risen Teostra 120,400
2. Risen Chameleos, Risen Kushala Daora & Risen Shagaru Magala 124,000
5. Risen Crimson Glow Valstrax 131,600

Lagombi 144,000 (placed No.49)

Okay, I see you don't understand what "source" means. So I'm going to give you my list.

Special Investigations (65 Monsters) HP:
BOTTOM 5
1. Great Jagras 369,000
2. Pukei-Pukei 750,000
5. Kecha Wacha 765,592

Great Jaggi: 8,675,309 (placed No.1)

Your sources are Master Rank monsters HP, and now you are bringing fabricated.

You are debunked, and now you are trolling.

[del_bosque_dol]

Good Night Owl の投稿を引用：

I hope for the opposite. Rise has the same problem that I have with the God Eater franchise. They made all weapons feel the same. Every weapon is fast, every weapon can be air based. With World, there was something for everyone. An aspect removed in Rise. The player retention reflects this.

Every MH series are different but something have in common. Your best MH game is that you have already played. But I see MHW fanatics or I call worldbabies do not understand as a matter of fact, MHW was too slow and too easy to play, but it was the best entrance game.

[Scipo0419]

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Okay, I see you don't understand what "source" means. So I'm going to give you my list.

Special Investigations (65 Monsters) HP:
BOTTOM 5
1. Great Jagras 369,000
2. Pukei-Pukei 750,000
5. Kecha Wacha 765,592

Great Jaggi: 8,675,309 (placed No.1)

Your sources are Master Rank monsters HP, and now you are bringing fabricated.

You are debunked, and now you are trolling.

You don't have any sources, period, so for all I know your numbers are fabricated is my point. ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, why are you so dense lol.

Give me numbers with an actual source to back up *your* claims. Until then, there isn't any world where a Lagombi has more HP than a Shagaru no matter what game it's in.

[del_bosque_dol]

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Your sources are Master Rank monsters HP, and now you are bringing fabricated.

You are debunked, and now you are trolling.

You don't have any sources, period, so for all I know your numbers are fabricated is my point. ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, why are you so dense lol.

Give me numbers with an actual source to back up *your* claims. Until then, there isn't any world where a Lagombi has more HP than a Shagaru no matter what game it's in.

I brought my sources relevant to the topic; special investigation, while you went for gathering Master Rank quests, which are irrelevant.

First, read. Second, learn. Third, play.

Writing and comparing irrelevant things is what you are doing. And I feel ashamed for your ignorance.

[Scipo0419]

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You don't have any sources, period, so for all I know your numbers are fabricated is my point. ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, why are you so dense lol.

Give me numbers with an actual source to back up *your* claims. Until then, there isn't any world where a Lagombi has more HP than a Shagaru no matter what game it's in.

I brought my sources relevant to the topic; special investigation, while you went for gathering Master Rank quests, which are irrelevant.

First, read. Second, learn. Third, play.

Writing and comparing irrelevant things is what you are doing. And I feel ashamed for your ignorance.

You can say "special investigations" all you want, you haven't provided a single source to back up and verify your numbers. You are the child at the playground saying "my dad works at Capcom." without any proof of your claims.

But clearly you don't understand what a source is and refuse to verify your information. So, until you do, I repeat that there isn't a single Lagombi in any monster hunter game with more health than a Shagaru.

[del_bosque_dol]

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del_bosque_dol の投稿を引用：

I brought my sources relevant to the topic; special investigation, while you went for gathering Master Rank quests, which are irrelevant.

First, read. Second, learn. Third, play.

Writing and comparing irrelevant things is what you are doing. And I feel ashamed for your ignorance.

You can say "special investigations" all you want, you haven't provided a single source to back up and verify your numbers. You are the child at the playground saying "my dad works at Capcom." without any proof of your claims.

But clearly you don't understand what a source is and refuse to verify your information. So, until you do, I repeat that there isn't a single Lagombi in any monster hunter game with more health than a Shagaru.

Have you played Sunbreak or you keep writing your poem based on MHGU?

Changing goal post everytime you fabricate your fantasy, which is nothing based on the reality.

There are sources, which you do not find or even mix with other games by mixing. 40times more base HP is what ordinal monsters get in special investigation quests in Sunbreak. I must insist exact words, so that you can even read.

First of all, you talk about something you know. Your mixing data shows that you have no idea, what you are writing in your poem.

Verify information written in a laguage that you do not even understand, is what I personally believe inappropriate, but that does not mean that the lack of info that your dictionary Kiranco is not the end of your world.

You have zero source, full of tantasy. Keep insisting MFGU means that you have not grown up ever since.

[JPM岩]

Good Night Owl の投稿を引用：

I hope for the opposite. Rise has the same problem that I have with the God Eater franchise. They made all weapons feel the same. Every weapon is fast, every weapon can be air based. With World, there was something for everyone. An aspect removed in Rise. The player retention reflects this.

You can tell who actually played Rise and who didnt when they say ♥♥♥♥ like this.

[Scipo0419]

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Scipo0419 の投稿を引用：

You can say "special investigations" all you want, you haven't provided a single source to back up and verify your numbers. You are the child at the playground saying "my dad works at Capcom." without any proof of your claims.

But clearly you don't understand what a source is and refuse to verify your information. So, until you do, I repeat that there isn't a single Lagombi in any monster hunter game with more health than a Shagaru.

Have you played Sunbreak or you keep writing your poem based on MHGU?

Changing goal post everytime you fabricate your fantasy, which is nothing based on the reality.

There are sources, which you do not find or even mix with other games by mixing. 40times more base HP is what ordinal monsters get in special investigation quests in Sunbreak. I must insist exact words, so that you can even read.

First of all, you talk about something you know. Your mixing data shows that you have no idea, what you are writing in your poem.

Verify information written in a laguage that you do not even understand, is what I personally believe inappropriate, but that does not mean that the lack of info that your dictionary Kiranco is not the end of your world.

You have zero source, full of tantasy. Keep insisting MFGU means that you have not grown up ever since.

OK, I know English isn't your native language, but I'm going to try my best to respond.

1) You did not provide a source for your numbers. Saying "Special Investigation" with no backing data doesn't mean ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. Give me a source for the numbers you provided, or as far as I'm aware you pulled it out of your ass.

2) GU, Sunbreak, Iceborne, doesn't matter. No game has a Lagombi with more HP than a Shagaru until proven otherwise, which you haven't done.

3) Kiranico datamines information directly from the game so their numbers are as close to official as you can get, and there's no data on special investigation HP listed.

4) if the value of special investigations is 40x base value, then it's mathematically impossible for Lagombi to ever have more HP than Shagaru. If X > Y, then 40X > 40Y. X and Y can be any number and this holds true.

5) I haven't written a single poem, so I'm not sure why you keep saying that I have.

Edit: 6) my goalpost never change, you just don't understand what "source" means, or you do, don't have one, and are trying to bluff