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[RotGoblin]

Just another forum fight... *snore*

[Caesar]

If you prefer a blurry picture, then yeah go ahead and enable FXAA.

[Wild]

Use none of these and just enable AA with dlss and fsr without upscaling.

[DDENN]

FXAA make blur, TAA make blur so FXAA+TAA = super blur

[RotGoblin]

Originally posted by DDENN:

FXAA make blur, TAA make blur so FXAA+TAA = super blur

And yet, in the Beta, FXAA+TAA is a lot sharper than just TAA.

[RotGoblin]

Originally posted by Wild:

Use none of these and just enable AA with dlss and fsr without upscaling.

I see you haven't met my friend, strugglebus CPU.

[Fraktal]

Will try when I get home thanks

[Jobko]

TAA looks horrible unless you use AI upscaling to fix it. Which is the purpose of FSR/DLSS. The reason devs even use these horrible outdated aliasing instead of MSAA x8 or some other better equivalent, is because it sells GPUs. TAA = blur, upscaling = remove blur and sharpen + give more frames because you're technically not running native monitor resolution.

[Jobko]

https://youtu.be/XIvlWRMvuCs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJu_DgCHfx4

[Jobko]

https://imgur.com/a/KDwyPRr

2018 vs 2025

optimized vs not optimized

[Caesar]

Originally posted by Goblin:

Originally posted by DDENN:

FXAA make blur, TAA make blur so FXAA+TAA = super blur

FXAA+TAA is a lot sharper than just TAA.

That's not how it works.

Originally posted by Jobko:

TAA looks horrible unless you use AI upscaling to fix it. Which is the purpose of FSR/DLSS.

Nope, the purpose of DLSS/FSR is simply to increase performance if your PC can't handle the native resolution.

Originally posted by Jobko:

TAA = blur, upscaling = remove blur and sharpen + give more frames because you're technically not running native monitor resolution.

That's a bit misleading because an upscaled picture will not look as sharp as a native picture.
Adding any form of artificial sharpening to it afterwards doesn't really count (even if, it may appear sharper, but it's actually just more pixelated).
Using any form of upscaling does not remove blur, quite the opposite.
There will always be some loss of quality when scaling an image up (artifacts, blurriness, or other visual distortions).

[Jobko]

Originally posted by Caesar:

Originally posted by Goblin:

FXAA+TAA is a lot sharper than just TAA.

That's not how it works.

Originally posted by Jobko:

TAA looks horrible unless you use AI upscaling to fix it. Which is the purpose of FSR/DLSS.

Nope, the purpose of DLSS/FSR is simply to increase performance if your PC can't handle the native resolution.

Originally posted by Jobko:

TAA = blur, upscaling = remove blur and sharpen + give more frames because you're technically not running native monitor resolution.

That's a bit misleading because an upscaled picture will not look as sharp as a native picture.
Adding any form artificial sharpening to it afterwards doesn't really count (even if, it may appear sharper, but it's actually just more pixelated).
Using any form of upscaling does not remove blur, quite the opposite.
There will always be some loss of quality when scaling an image up (artifacts, blurriness, or other visual distortions).

FSR and frame gen: https://i.imgur.com/lbToQUx.jpeg
Native: https://i.imgur.com/L6jp4cV.jpeg

TAA is built in, the game looks horrible native. You need upscaling. I'm right, these images literally prove what I'm saying.

[Jobko]

Why do you people think that TAA is being used instead of MSAA x8? MSAA x8 is better in every way, TAA is a blur filter that removes artifacts from poor optimized graphics because developers didn't want to do their job.

Originally posted by Jobko:

https://youtu.be/XIvlWRMvuCs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJu_DgCHfx4

Refer to these videos to see what I am saying is true. The reason TAA is being implemented is to sell you graphics cards. You can only fix this with better hardware based AI upscaling.

[Caesar]

Originally posted by Jobko:

I'm right, these images literally prove what I'm saying.

You are mistaken less jagged edges for a sharper picture.

Originally posted by Jobko:

Why do you people think that TAA is being used instead of MSAA x8? MSAA x8 is better in every way,

Mainly because SMAA & MSAA are more performance heavy.
MSAA can also lead to issues with deferred rendering, which is another reason.

TAA is a post-processing method.
SMAA/MSAA = sampling(those methods are MUCH more performance heavy).

Again;
Sharper image = more pixel density.
Native 4k > 4k upscaled.

You may prefer your upscaled picture look-wise, but from a technical standpoint it's not sharper.

[Jobko]

Originally posted by Caesar:

Originally posted by Jobko:

I'm right, these images literally prove what I'm saying.

You are mistaken less jagged edges for a sharper picture.

Originally posted by Jobko:

Why do you people think that TAA is being used instead of MSAA x8? MSAA x8 is better in every way,

Mainly because SMAA & MSAA are more performance heavy.
MSAA can also lead to issue with deferred rendering, which is another reason.

TAA is a post-processing method.
SMAA/MSAA = sampling(those methods are MUCH more performance heavy).

Again;
Sharper image = more pixel density.
Native 4k > 4k upscaled.

Native 4k without TAA > 4k upscaled

Native 4k with TAA < 4k upscaled

Medium preset, FSR + frame gen: https://i.imgur.com/lbToQUx.jpeg

Ultra preset, TAA (native graphics): https://i.imgur.com/L6jp4cV.jpeg

[Caesar]

Originally posted by Jobko:

Originally posted by Caesar:

You are mistaken less jagged edges for a sharper picture.

Mainly because SMAA & MSAA are more performance heavy.
MSAA can also lead to issue with deferred rendering, which is another reason.

TAA is a post-processing method.
SMAA/MSAA = sampling(those methods are MUCH more performance heavy).

Again;
Sharper image = more pixel density.
Native 4k > 4k upscaled.

Native 4k without TAA > 4k upscaled

Native 4k with TAA < 4k upscaled

Medium preset, FSR + frame gen: https://i.imgur.com/lbToQUx.jpeg

Ultra preset, TAA (native graphics): https://i.imgur.com/L6jp4cV.jpeg

Again;
You may prefer your upscaled picture look-wise, but from a technical standpoint it's not sharper.
Adding any form of artificial sharpening to it afterwards doesn't really count (even if, it may appear sharper to you, but it's actually just more pixelated).

Originally posted by Jobko:

Native 4k without TAA > 4k upscaled

My point exactly.

Originally posted by Jobko:

Native 4k with TAA < 4k upscaled

Upscaling (DLSS/FSR) does not increase sharpness mate, it adds blur.

I feel like you may get DLSS & DLAA mixed up, if you're talking about upscaling.