Upscale + frame gen + 1080p = "game runs good" is cope

[Jobko]

Play this game native 1440p or 4k and tell me this game is optimized with a straight face.

Red Dead Redemption 2 looks better and runs at 42 FPS native at 4k maxed out graphics on a 3070.

This game runs 50-70 fps with ultra performance DLSS on medium graphics at 1440p on the same card.

You can't make this stuff up.

[Gabriel_GC]

These people are just as bad as the ones always trashing the game no matter what, just on the polar opposite side. They don't understand that doing so will bring us to a world where FG is the new norm for "raccomended" perf and visuals, which translates to bad optimization and a sea of artifacting/bad image quality overall. (Maybe sadly we are already in it, look at the 5000 series marketing bs pre reviews)

[Jobko]

Originally posted by Gabriel_GC:

These people are just as bad as the ones always trashing the game no matter what, just on the polar opposite side. They don't understand that doing so will bring us to a world where FG is the new norm for "raccomended" perf and visuals, which translates to bad optimization and a sea of artifacting/bad image quality overall. (Maybe sadly we are already in it)

I believe we're already in it. The last 4 years since the 30 series dropped has been solely focused on giving us fake performance and fake visuals to cover up the mistakes of developers, who are not optimizing and blurring all their visual mistakes with TAA, and all lighting mistakes with ray tracing. There are some exceptions to this rule, but very little. Games simply look horrendous nowadays. I don't think any new game has matched what RDR2 did back in 2018 with optimization and good graphics as a combo in a fully developed product.

[Wookiee]

I love how people just list GPU, what about current driver, other specs, which matters a lot.

[Jobko]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJu_DgCHfx4

[Jobko]

Originally posted by Wookiee:

I love how people just list GPU, what about current driver, other specs, which matters a lot.

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600X 6-Core
GPU: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070
GPU DRIVER: NVIDIA 565.77
RAM: 32 GB
Storage: M.2 SSD 980 EVO (ultra version or whatever)

[Gabriel_GC]

Originally posted by Jobko:

Originally posted by Wookiee:

I love how people just list GPU, what about current driver, other specs, which matters a lot.

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600X 6-Core
GPU: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070
GPU DRIVER: NVIDIA 565.77
RAM: 32 GB
Storage: M.2 SSD 980 EVO (ultra version or whatever)

Watch them telling you you have a low end system for today standards and missing the entire point of the situation smh

[Wookiee]

Originally posted by Jobko:

Originally posted by Wookiee:

I love how people just list GPU, what about current driver, other specs, which matters a lot.

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600X 6-Core
GPU: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070
GPU DRIVER: NVIDIA 565.77
RAM: 32 GB
Storage: M.2 SSD 980 EVO (ultra version or whatever)

If you played the beta, the build is from 2023. So using that as anything wont help too much. The other thing is, it is your cpu that limits your fps.

[Jobko]

Originally posted by Wookiee:

Originally posted by Jobko:

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600X 6-Core
GPU: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070
GPU DRIVER: NVIDIA 565.77
RAM: 32 GB
Storage: M.2 SSD 980 EVO (ultra version or whatever)

If you played the beta, the build is from 2023. So using that as anything wont help too much. The other thing is, it is your cpu that limits your fps.

I feel like you're missing the point of this post. This game has no reason to run this bad. Look at it.

The benchmark is how the game will run at release. Beta was worse, sure, but this is still bad.

[Jobko]

Originally posted by Gabriel_GC:

Originally posted by Jobko:

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600X 6-Core
GPU: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070
GPU DRIVER: NVIDIA 565.77
RAM: 32 GB
Storage: M.2 SSD 980 EVO (ultra version or whatever)

Watch them telling you you have a low end system for today standards and missing the entire point of the situation smh

You called it.

[Wookiee]

Originally posted by Jobko:

Originally posted by Gabriel_GC:

Watch them telling you you have a low end system for today standards and missing the entire point of the situation smh

You called it.

Called what, i never said you had low end system or missed the point, I just mention what is limiting your fps in this scenario lol.

And where do i say it runs good or it is acceptable?

And last point, for me personally high 60+ fps 1440p is good enough to play ^^. We each have our own taste.

[Jobko]

Originally posted by Wookiee:

Originally posted by Jobko:

You called it.

And last point, for me personally high 60+ fps 1440p is good enough to play ^^. We each have our own taste.

I am fine if it's above 60 fps at a stable frame rate, but it's not. It jumps too much depending on scene, and fluctuates constantly. The frame times are awful as well, so regardless of your framerate it will simply feel low frames.

I don't want to pay a premium price for a unfinished game. When the games finished and a lower price, I'll buy it.

[Wookiee]

Originally posted by Jobko:

Originally posted by Wookiee:

And last point, for me personally high 60+ fps 1440p is good enough to play ^^. We each have our own taste.

I am fine if it's above 60 fps at a stable frame rate, but it's not. It jumps too much depending on scene, and fluctuates constantly. The frame times are awful as well, so regardless of your framerate it will simply feel low frames.

I don't want to pay a premium price for a unfinished game. When the games finished and a lower price, I'll buy it.

I Can understand that. And that is up to you.

For me i have this stable above 60fps(beta build). So ill enjoy it at release and for me i dont have these low frame times or at least not enough to feel em.

[Jobko]

Originally posted by Wookiee:

Originally posted by Jobko:

I am fine if it's above 60 fps at a stable frame rate, but it's not. It jumps too much depending on scene, and fluctuates constantly. The frame times are awful as well, so regardless of your framerate it will simply feel low frames.

I don't want to pay a premium price for a unfinished game. When the games finished and a lower price, I'll buy it.

I Can understand that. And that is up to you.

For me i have this stable above 60fps(beta build). So ill enjoy it at release and for me i dont have these low frame times or at least not enough to feel em.

I hope it runs good on release and isn't another Dragon's Dogma 2 situation where the CC ran way better than the actual game.

[Wookiee]

Originally posted by Jobko:

Originally posted by Wookiee:

I Can understand that. And that is up to you.

For me i have this stable above 60fps(beta build). So ill enjoy it at release and for me i dont have these low frame times or at least not enough to feel em.

I hope it runs good on release and isn't another Dragon's Dogma 2 situation where the CC ran way better than the actual game.

Don't we all? Hopefully its even better than the benchmark but i have no hope of that :P

[=][=Alduran=][=]

CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 7950X3D
GPU: AMD RX 7900 XTX / 3440x1440@175 / Adrenalin 24.12.1
RAM: G.Skill 32GB DDR5-6000
Storage: Samsung 990 PRO 2TB
OS: WIN 10 PRO 64 bit / 22H2

Preset: Ultra
Frame Gen: On
RT: off
Motion blur: off
Vignette: off
Depth of field: off

1)Upscaling: FSR 3.1 Quality
Score 25233
Average: 155.12

2) Upscaling: FSR 3.1 Native+AA
Score 21954
Average: 118.65