my benchmarks, 9800x3d, 4070ti (asus TUF OC), 1440p

[Tough-guy Blues]

transcribed:

Resolution 2560x1440
CPU AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D 8-Core Processor
GPU NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 Ti
RAM 31GB
GPU Driver Version 566.36

Graphics Settings High
SCORE 36262
Average 106.43 FPS

Graphics Settings ULTRA
SCORE 31131
Average 91.90 FPS

Graphics Settings ULTRA / FRAME GENERATION ENABLED
SCORE 22795
Average 133.95 FPS

images:
https://imgur.com/a/8BpAxYd

build
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/b/sr2V3C

[NeoX]

Originally posted by The Spice:

Originally posted by The Spice:

FrameGen costs more GPU Power.
If you are entirely CPU limited, your FPS will increase 2x.
If youre GPU limited, you will see less boost from FrameGen as it is taxing the GPU more.
A 1.5x increase in FPS is totally reasonable then.

This indicates to me that in his benchmark, he is probably entirely GPU limited.

Are you replying to yourself? Or did you want to reply to me once more?
Well have a loot at my benchmark if it was targeted towards me:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-uricga09EA

have some numbers if you like:

Average Frames Native Maximum Settings Raytracing = 80,85fps
Average Frames FSR/Gen Maximum Settings Raytracing = 162,54fps
Average Frames Native Maximum Settings NO Raytracing = 89,58fps
Average Frames FSR/Gen Maximum Settings NO Raytracing = 174,4fps

Average Frames Native Medium Settings Raytracing = 92,81fps
Average Frames FSR/Gen Medium Settings Raytracing = 191,02fps
Average Frames Native Medium Settings NO Raytracing = 99,7fps
Average Frames FSR/Gen Medium Settings NO Raytracing = 199,32fps

Average Frames Native Minimum Settings Raytracing = 99,13fps
Average Frames FSR/Gen Minimum Settings Raytracing = 197,97fps
Average Frames Native Minimum Settings NO Raytracing = 103,85fps
Average Frames FSR/Gen Minimum Settings NO Raytracing = 211,72fps

[The Spice]

The open grass field is GPU bottlenecking like really hard, atleast for me with 13900HX and 4080M, the only area where I see CPU bottleneck is at the village.

[NeoX]

Originally posted by The Spice:

The open grass field is GPU bottlenecking like really hard, atleast for me with 13900HX and 4080M, the only area where I see CPU bottleneck is at the village.

Whats your fps numbers there?

[The Spice]

So
2560x1600 (2560x1440 because of black bars) ULTRA preset
FrameGen
19900, Average 117FPS

No Frame Gen
27700, Average 83 FPS

Pretty much lines up, 1,4x increase in FPS while being 100% GPU bottlenecked pretty much all the time

[The Spice]

Originally posted by NeoX:

Originally posted by The Spice:

The open grass field is GPU bottlenecking like really hard, atleast for me with 13900HX and 4080M, the only area where I see CPU bottleneck is at the village.

Whats your fps numbers there?

At the field with ULTRA on 1440p its around 60fps, definitely in need of improvement.
With medium preset its barely holding 70fps
This game lacks scalability for various hardwares

[NeoX]

Originally posted by The Spice:

Originally posted by NeoX:

Whats your fps numbers there?

At the field with ULTRA on 1440p its around 60fps, definitely in need of improvement.
With medium preset its barely holding 70fps
This game lacks scalability for various hardwares

Sry if i was not clear enough, i mean in exactly these 2 scenes/ situations, not average overall. Sry that way my bad of communication. :-(

[Renka]

Big cpus seems to really help in this game, i managed to get "only" 36K on ultra preset (dlss quality) in 1440p with a 5090 because my 12900k bottlenected it

i'm planning to use framegen anyway but i wish the cpu side were much more optimized

[The Spice]

Originally posted by NeoX:

Originally posted by The Spice:

At the field with ULTRA on 1440p its around 60fps, definitely in need of improvement.
With medium preset its barely holding 70fps
This game lacks scalability for various hardwares

Sry if i was not clear enough, i mean in exactly these 2 scenes/ situations, not average overall. Sry that way my bad of communication. :-(

1440p ULTRA preset no RT
Im seeing ~60FPS at the panning view over the grass fields
and
around 80 at the village entrance
with 100% GPU

[The Spice]

Originally posted by Renka:

Big cpus seems to really help in this game, i managed to get "only" 36K on ultra preset (dlss quality) in 1440p with a 5090 because my 12900k bottlenected it

i'm planning to use framegen anyway but i wish the cpu side were much more optimized

Your case is one of the few that actually makes sense to use FrameGen. The 5090 should have quite enough legroom to still be able to keep low latency with FrameGen.

[Pisaro]

Originally posted by Krustenkäse:

Originally posted by Mechanique:

90+ fps in 1440p on a mid-range GPU is "horrible"? What world do you live in?

In what world do you live in to think that a 4070Ti TUF OC that costs around 900-1000$+ is "mid-range".
Brainwashed Nvidia shill strikes again.
NVIDIA Marketing

It is in FACT a (upper) midclass GPU. Before RTX 5xxx, 4080S was Highend, 4090 enthusiast.

Has nothing to do with brainwashing. Facts since 20 years of gaming/ Hardware..

Even for 500.000€/$ a 4070Ti would be (upper) midclass.

Not the price says low end, mid class, highend. Performance does. Since we have GPUs.

[Evil Pumpkin]

Originally posted by Krustenkäse:

Oof. The 4070Ti performs horrible lmao.

shhh you amd fanatic

[Tough-guy Blues]

Originally posted by NeoX:

Originally posted by Krustenkäse:

Oof. The 4070Ti performs horrible lmao.

This is just a theory since i lack the data from OP, but if his 31GB of useable RAM is not a typo. The Bottleneck is the CPU because of the RAM only using base speed with no actual XMP profile CL-latency advantage what results in these numbers. because the IGPU of the CPU clocks down the RAM speed to its configures 2400MT/s (4800MT/s system) speed.

all untrue, i unlocked the extra 500 something MB hardware reserved ram from integrated graphics being enabled in bios but ram is otherwise properly configured
also reran benchmarks and no performance gain whatsoever
ram is 6000 MT/s 30-36-36-76

[NeoX]

Originally posted by Tough-guy Blues:

Originally posted by NeoX:

This is just a theory since i lack the data from OP, but if his 31GB of useable RAM is not a typo. The Bottleneck is the CPU because of the RAM only using base speed with no actual XMP profile CL-latency advantage what results in these numbers. because the IGPU of the CPU clocks down the RAM speed to its configures 2400MT/s (4800MT/s system) speed.

all untrue, i unlocked the extra 500 something MB hardware reserved ram from integrated graphics being enabled in bios but ram is otherwise properly configured
also reran benchmarks and no performance gain whatsoever
ram is 6000 MT/s 30-36-36-76

Interesting you are not effected by it. I had this on my end and other reports too.

[Hofykz]

I7 13700K
RTX 4070 Ti 12GB (Driver 572.24 Hotfix)
48GB 7000 Mhz DDR5

1440P
High preset
Balance DLSS
(These are the default settings if I start the benchmark, so I didn't touch anything)
Frame Gen off

SCORE: 35,433
Average: 104,06 FPS

Weird, since my performance is similar to your new 9800 X3D processor. Poor CPU optimization as we can see.

[Tough-guy Blues]

Originally posted by Hofykz:

I7 13700K
RTX 4070 Ti 12GB (Driver 572.24 Hotfix)
48GB 7000 Mhz DDR5

1440P
High preset
Balance DLSS
(These are the default settings if I start the benchmark, so I didn't touch anything)
Frame Gen off

SCORE: 35,433
Average: 104,06 FPS

Weird, since my performance is similar to your new 9800 X3D processor. Poor CPU optimization as we can see.

thanks for sharing