Nice GPU Upgrade from a RTX 3060 / R 7-5800x ?

[Oldboylol]

Hellou. I'm not super hard into hardware and stuff so the Title pretty much says it.

My Specs: RTX 3060 (12gb vram), Ryzen 7 5800X. - i play on 1080p,

I basically want to upgrade for MH wilds and also future titles. planning to stay at 1080p but maybe 1440p would be an option ? i also want to make sure there is no mayor Bottleneck between CPU and GPU which i know nothing about.

budget is around 600 buckeroo's maybe 700 max. im happy for any suggestions. thx in advance

[Ucefox]

Hi, you can just download the benchmark which was released yesterday, it's a free download under the pre order tab.

[GamingWithSilvertail]

If you want to go 1440 you should prolly think around a 4070 GPU/7600 AM5 socket cpu+ minimum since you want to future proof yourself for future titles, and for your price class, I dont think you'll get much improvement cause you'll definiatly need a new mobo/cpu/gpu/ram combo unless you're willing to stick to 3060 for now and upgrade GPU later cause t hen you might even be able to get a x3d chip combo (Dont go for 5xxxx3d cause thats a dead socket).

[RotGoblin]

If you're sticking with the 5800X you're going to hit a CPU bottleneck at 1080p, the 5800X is a nice processor but the 5XXX series in general is struggling to keep up with modern GPU's.

What that means is, you could throw lots of money at a new GPU and not see big performance increases, especially in a game like MH Wilds.

So your options are either: go big on a GPU and start saving for a CPU/Motherboard upgrade in the next year/two.

Or, go mid on a GPU and save a couple hundred bucks, put it towards the next PC in 3-4 years time.

Though, looking at Part Picker GPU prices right now kinda suck (at least in America, I don't know your location), I would recommend a 7800XT but they're nearly $100 over what I paid for it 6 months ago.

Current Nvidia release is kinda dead in the water, paper launches and "eh" performance, Next gen Radeon cards coming in March but that's probably a paper launch too and seems like it could be a disappointing launch as well.

Ngl, might just be time to sit tight and wait for better deals.

[DeadJericho]

a 5800x would be good for a 4070 or 4070 super.

if you can afford one then a 5800x3d would be even better and probably good for a 4070 ti super, 4080 etc

the higher the resolution you game at, the less the cpu matters.
at 1080p youre going to hit a cpu bottleneck at some point.

[del_bosque_dol]

Messaggio originale di GamingWithSilvertail:

If you want to go 1440 you should prolly think around a 4070 GPU/7600 AM5 socket cpu+ minimum since you want to future proof yourself for future titles, and for your price class, I dont think you'll get much improvement cause you'll definiatly need a new mobo/cpu/gpu/ram combo unless you're willing to stick to 3060 for now and upgrade GPU later cause t hen you might even be able to get a x3d chip combo (Dont go for 5xxxx3d cause thats a dead socket).

I seceond that. Your suggestion is very reasonable. This game has higher CPU dependancy and higher vram usage. Not sure if both cases are designed for lowering GPU requirement but more vram usage for certain higher praphic settings, which make no sense to me specially for those nvidia 3060 or 70 and 4060 users are suffering similar problems. Stick to 1080p gaming is the best suggestion. AM4 CPU with 3060 or 4060 for 1440p? I really do not think so.

AM5 mother boards are not that expensive and ddr5 memory. There are some decent CPUs that you can choose, if you want to upgrade and play 1440p gaming. For GPU, I still do not belive nvidia is providing any meaningful driver, so you can wait and see how things will go after the release to have more objective comparison.

[Oldboylol]

Messaggio originale di Ucefox:

Hi, you can just download the benchmark which was released yesterday, it's a free download under the pre order tab.

already have. the benchmark results tell me its excellet but i don't believe it.

[Kabaale]

Wait for a 6090 if you want 60 fps in this game

[Oldboylol]

Messaggio originale di Kabaale:

Wait for a 6090 if you want 60 fps in this game

yeah i know its bad optimized but i feel like a constant 60fps should not be too much to ask at 1080p.

[Niczu]

Messaggio originale di DeadJericho:

if you can afford one then a 5800x3d would be even better and probably good for a 4070 ti super, 4080 etc

The problem with that CPU is that its availability has been really rough in past months due it being discontinued. Even if you can find one its probably going to be way overpriced.

5700X3D on the other hand is a much reasonable option for those who are still on AM4 platform. Its a bit weaker than 5800X3D but not all that much. Not sure if upgrading either of these make sense for OP though since they have 5800X. Probably better to use it until platform change.

[del_bosque_dol]

Messaggio originale di Niczu:

Messaggio originale di DeadJericho:

if you can afford one then a 5800x3d would be even better and probably good for a 4070 ti super, 4080 etc

The problem with that CPU is that its availability has been really rough in past months due it being discontinued. Even if you can find one its probably going to be way overpriced.

5700X3D on the other hand is a much reasonable option for those who are still on AM4 platform. Its a bit weaker than 5800X3D but not all that much.

And what do you personally get for the outcome of 5700x3D for 1440p benchmark?

[Niczu]

Messaggio originale di del_bosque_dol:

Messaggio originale di Niczu:

The problem with that CPU is that its availability has been really rough in past months due it being discontinued. Even if you can find one its probably going to be way overpriced.

5700X3D on the other hand is a much reasonable option for those who are still on AM4 platform. Its a bit weaker than 5800X3D but not all that much.

And what do you personally get for the outcome of 5700x3D for 1440p benchmark?

Without framegen
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3422117028

With framegen
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3422117402

[DeadJericho]

Messaggio originale di Niczu:

Messaggio originale di DeadJericho:

if you can afford one then a 5800x3d would be even better and probably good for a 4070 ti super, 4080 etc

The problem with that CPU is that its availability has been really rough in past months due it being discontinued. Even if you can find one its probably going to be way overpriced.

5700X3D on the other hand is a much reasonable option for those who are still on AM4 platform. Its a bit weaker than 5800X3D but not all that much. Not sure if upgrading either of these make sense for OP though since they have 5800X. Probably better to use it until platform change.

yeah i agree the 5700x3d would be good.
the v cache makes the difference really.

but im sticking with my 5700x personally. i feel it still has legs.
op has a 5800x which should still be good when paired with a 4070/ti/super etc

interesting your framegen results.
when i used framegen i got lower fps on average.
you would think it would double the fps upto my fps cap (set as 117fps in nvidia control panel for gsync purposes) but it got nowhere near that, often being 10fps lower than without fg on

[Mythily]

1440p is going to be a no with that budget. A CPU upgrade in your case means getting a new mobo as well which is 200 bucks for a decent one and another 300 for the cpu.
I'm hesitant to recommend the 7800x3d because it is still quite expensive. Even the new gen non x3d CPUs are cheaper, like the 9700X. On the intel side, 14600K is a good option.
It only leaves you with 300 for a new GPU which nowadays gets you not much better than "a waste of silicon".

[del_bosque_dol]

Messaggio originale di Niczu:

Messaggio originale di del_bosque_dol:

And what do you personally get for the outcome of 5700x3D for 1440p benchmark?

Without framegen
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3422117028

With framegen
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3422117402

oh yeah 4070ti super such a great piece you have. But I somewhat believe, you will even get better results after the release.

4070super is also capable for 1440p gaming with 5800x3d.

The real questions are 4060 and 4060ti, both of which seems really underperforming.

[Niczu]

Messaggio originale di Mythily:

I'm hesitant to recommend the 7800x3d because it is still quite expensive.

Some months back this CPU would have been easy recommend. It was something that I was originally planning to upgrade to along with new mobo and RAM. Then its price went up from 350€ to 550€ so I said screw it and went with the 5700X3D, which I'll probably use until AM6.