Nice GPU Upgrade from a RTX 3060 / R 7-5800x ?

[Oldboylol]

Hellou. I'm not super hard into hardware and stuff so the Title pretty much says it.

My Specs: RTX 3060 (12gb vram), Ryzen 7 5800X. - i play on 1080p,

I basically want to upgrade for MH wilds and also future titles. planning to stay at 1080p but maybe 1440p would be an option ? i also want to make sure there is no mayor Bottleneck between CPU and GPU which i know nothing about.

budget is around 600 buckeroo's maybe 700 max. im happy for any suggestions. thx in advance

[Niczu]

Автор сообщения: Oldboylol

So my local computer assembly guy told me, upgrading from a RTX 3060 to a 4070 would still be a huge performance upgrade even in 1080p (given my CPU), with the option to go for a 1440p monitor later on. so you guys think this is a good Idea or would that be a huge cpu bottleneck or an 1080p Overkill ? or in other words: will it be a good performance boost ?

I would suggest watching some comparisons from YT for example. It seems to be near double the frames so the performance boost will be quite significant. I think it would be worth it, especially if you can find one from sale.

In the end though, it is something that you will have to decide for yourself. :)

[Oldboylol]

Автор сообщения: Niczu

Автор сообщения: Oldboylol

So my local computer assembly guy told me, upgrading from a RTX 3060 to a 4070 would still be a huge performance upgrade even in 1080p (given my CPU), with the option to go for a 1440p monitor later on. so you guys think this is a good Idea or would that be a huge cpu bottleneck or an 1080p Overkill ? or in other words: will it be a good performance boost ?

I would suggest watching some comparisons from YT for example. It seems to be near double the frames so the performance boost will be quite significant. I think it would be worth it, especially if you can find one from sale.

In the end though, it is something that you will have to decide for yourself. :)

sure. but there are so many varibles with this stuff, and if you're not an expert its quite hard, so i try to get as much advice as possible.

[Caesar]

Автор сообщения: Oldboylol

So my local computer assembly guy told me, upgrading from a RTX 3060 to a 4070 would still be a huge performance upgrade even in 1080p (given my CPU), with the option to go for a 1440p monitor later on. so you guys think this is a good Idea or would that be a huge cpu bottleneck or an 1080p Overkill ? or in other words: will it be a good performance boost ?

I assume we're talking about the "normal" 4070 ?
Not the Ti or Ti Super ?
Your "local computer assembly guy" basically just wants to sell you stuff, if you ask me, because claiming "it would be a huge performance upgrade" is debatable.

CPU Intense Tasks (1080p)
https://pc-builds.com/bottleneck-calculator/result/10p1fl/2/cpu-intense-tasks/1920x1080/
GPU Intense Tasks (1080p)
https://pc-builds.com/bottleneck-calculator/result/10p1fl/3/gpu-intense-tasks/1920x1080/
CPU Intense Tasks (1440p)
https://pc-builds.com/bottleneck-calculator/result/10p1fl/2/cpu-intense-tasks/2560x1440/
GPU Intense Tasks (1440p)
https://pc-builds.com/bottleneck-calculator/result/10p1fl/3/gpu-intense-tasks/2560x1440/

In short;
At 1080p (especially with CPU heavy games) you are definitely running into a noticeable bottleneck.
I would suggest going for 1440p at least, you will still have a slight bottleneck (with cpu heavy games) but it's not "as bad".

Cyberpunk 2077 Benchmark at 1080p (NOT counting in any sort of bottleneck);
On ultra settings NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 can achieve from 70.1 FPS up to 106.2 FPS , with average around 85.5 FPS.
On ultra settings NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 can achieve from 87.1 FPS up to 134.1 FPS , with average around 107.7 FPS.
Again, that's without any sort of bottleneck - so if you ask me the fps difference isn't that great/worth the price.

If you can afford it, I would rather upgrade to an AM5 motherboard, get the Ryzen 7 7800X3D + 32GB RAM DDR5-6000.
And then later on worry about upgrading your GPU.

You are CPU bound, & upgrading your GPU will only boost your fps to a certain degree.

[Oldboylol]

Автор сообщения: Caesar

Автор сообщения: Oldboylol

So my local computer assembly guy told me, upgrading from a RTX 3060 to a 4070 would still be a huge performance upgrade even in 1080p (given my CPU), with the option to go for a 1440p monitor later on. so you guys think this is a good Idea or would that be a huge cpu bottleneck or an 1080p Overkill ? or in other words: will it be a good performance boost ?

I assume we're talking about the "normal" 4070 ?
Not the Ti or Ti Super ?
Your "local computer assembly guy" basically just wants to sell you stuff, if you ask me, because claiming "it would be a huge performance upgrade" is debatable.

CPU Intense Tasks (1080p)
https://pc-builds.com/bottleneck-calculator/result/10p1fl/2/cpu-intense-tasks/1920x1080/
GPU Intense Tasks (1080p)
https://pc-builds.com/bottleneck-calculator/result/10p1fl/3/gpu-intense-tasks/1920x1080/
CPU Intense Tasks (1440p)
https://pc-builds.com/bottleneck-calculator/result/10p1fl/2/cpu-intense-tasks/2560x1440/
GPU Intense Tasks (1440p)
https://pc-builds.com/bottleneck-calculator/result/10p1fl/3/gpu-intense-tasks/2560x1440/

In short;
At 1080p (especially with CPU heavy games) you are definitely running into a noticeable bottleneck.
I would suggest going for 1440p at least, you will still have a slight bottleneck (with cpu heavy games) but it's not "as bad".

Cyberpunk 2077 Benchmark at 1080p (NOT counting in any sort of bottleneck);
On ultra settings NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 can achieve from 70.1 FPS up to 106.2 FPS , with average around 85.5 FPS.
On ultra settings NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 can achieve from 87.1 FPS up to 134.1 FPS , with average around 107.7 FPS.
Again, that's without any sort of bottleneck - so if you ask me the fps difference isn't that great/worth the price.

If you can afford it, I would rather upgrade to an AM5 motherboard, get the Ryzen 7 7800X3D + 32GB RAM DDR5-6000.
And then later on worry about upgrading your GPU.

You are CPU bound, & upgrading your GPU will only boost your fps to a certain degree.

yes its the normal 4070. i know the guy wants to sell me stuff, thats why i'm trying to get advice from multiple sources. i've heard those bottleneck calculators are pretty useless bc there are far more variables than just cpu and gpu.

"You are CPU bound, & upgrading your GPU will only boost your fps to a certain degree"

-the question is to what degree roughly, i'm not really aiming for more than 60fps for most games i play. the only games i play at higher refreshrates are shooters, but that was never a problem. last ones i played was doom eternal and maybe valorant and those ran perfect at 120hz since they are really good optimised for higher refresh rates.

[Oldboylol]

i should say that the only games up until this point, where i ran into issues are DD2 and MH wilds. wukong had some framedips in later levels but even that game was still pretty playable. maybe i should wait for MH Wilds release and see for myself how it runs, the beta was definitly unpleasant in terms of performance AND graphics. it was kinda ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥

[Caesar]

Well I would not take those calculators at face value, but it's decent enough to give you a rough idea about what to expect.

Regarding your other question;
It's tough to give you an exact number (hence you're CPU bound in most cases).
The 4070 is roughly 15% faster (depending on your resolution etc), but hence you're CPU bound you won't be able to utilize it's full potential anyway (in most cases).

I'd suggest you check some youtube videos "rtx 3060 vs 4060" to give you a rough idea, like this one;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WeVr9tJoDdQ

Again, if you ask me it's not worth the upgrade unless you don't care about the money and/or you REALLY need those 10-20 more fps.

[Unknownsurfin]

Автор сообщения: Skaar

For GPUs you might want to wait til March. AMD is going to release it's new GPUs then and they are rumored to take on the 5070 / 4080 in performance for a lower price point and with much improved FSR4. When they have released and reviews are in, that'd be the best time to decide what card is best suited for you.

It wont work that way, many games are requiring ray tracing as standard and amds ray tracing capabilities are inferior and use significantly more resources, causing the performance to be closer to a 4060 not 4080. FSR 4 also will not look as good as dlss.

[Unknownsurfin]

Автор сообщения: Caesar

Well I would not take those calculators at face value, but it's decent enough to give you a rough idea about what to expect.

Regarding your other question;
It's tough to give you an exact number (hence you're CPU bound in most cases).
The 4070 is roughly 15% faster (depending on your resolution etc), but hence you're CPU bound you won't be able to utilize it's full potential anyway (in most cases).

I'd suggest you check some youtube videos "rtx 3060 vs 4060" to give you a rough idea, like this one;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WeVr9tJoDdQ

Again, if you ask me it's not worth the upgrade unless you don't care about the money and/or you REALLY need those 10-20 more fps.

10-20 fps more is everything

[HoneyDrake]

4070, not super or ti, is NOT worth the money.

[Oldboylol]

Автор сообщения: Unknownsurfin

Автор сообщения: Caesar

Well I would not take those calculators at face value, but it's decent enough to give you a rough idea about what to expect.

Regarding your other question;
It's tough to give you an exact number (hence you're CPU bound in most cases).
The 4070 is roughly 15% faster (depending on your resolution etc), but hence you're CPU bound you won't be able to utilize it's full potential anyway (in most cases).

I'd suggest you check some youtube videos "rtx 3060 vs 4060" to give you a rough idea, like this one;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WeVr9tJoDdQ

Again, if you ask me it's not worth the upgrade unless you don't care about the money and/or you REALLY need those 10-20 more fps.

10-20 fps more is everything

that video is for the 4060 not the 4070 im thinking about. that one even doubles the framerate in comparison to the 3060. but i only have r7 5800x not the 3d variant that every video is using.

[GamingWithSilvertail]

Автор сообщения: Oldboylol

Hellou. I'm not super hard into hardware and stuff so the Title pretty much says it.

My Specs: RTX 3060 (12gb vram), Ryzen 7 5800X. - i play on 1080p,

I basically want to upgrade for MH wilds and also future titles. planning to stay at 1080p but maybe 1440p would be an option ? i also want to make sure there is no mayor Bottleneck between CPU and GPU which i know nothing about.

budget is around 600 buckeroo's maybe 700 max. im happy for any suggestions. thx in advance :er_heart:

For your CPU I wouldnt go higher then a 4070 Super cause you'll be bottlenecked if you go higher.

[AmaiAmai]

Автор сообщения: Oldboylol

So my local computer assembly guy told me, upgrading from a RTX 3060 to a 4070 would still be a huge performance upgrade even in 1080p (given my CPU), with the option to go for a 1440p monitor later on. so you guys think this is a good Idea or would that be a huge cpu bottleneck or an 1080p Overkill ? or in other words: will it be a good performance boost ?

It will be an increase, but it's a bad idea because you will be forced to upgrade again due to the limited VRAM on that GPU.

12GB VRAM will be an issue sooner, rather than later and that's because developers keep releasing broken games such as this one -- the one you are trying to upgrade to play better.

A GPU with less than 16GB VRAM is not going to last you 2-3 years at the rate these games are gobbling it up with their poor coding and lazy dev teams.