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NezahualDoomer Feb 5 @ 8:34am
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Requiring DLSS and Frame Generation is a TRAVESTY
This technologies were for the CONSUMERS not for lazy developers that can't and won't optimize their games, requiring DLSS and Frame Generation for 1080 is nothing short of a TRAVESTY.

Your game has to be AWFULLY optimized for that to be true, I don't even remember a single game that has done this.

The Beta was AWFUL and showed us exactly how bad performing this game was, even 4000 series cards had to RELY on Frame Generation to get some playable fps, it's honestly a joke, like I said, nothing short of a travesty.

"i dIDnT hAd aNi IZzU!"

Stop lying fanatics, anyone posting this or similar stuff will get an immediate block.

"oH bUt tHeY lOwErEd tHe rEKirEMeNts!"

No, they are still putting DLSS and Frame Generation as requierements, nothing is fixed until they remove those.

This is a video I made about this topic back then when the beta released, the links are on the image below.

And somehow this video IS still relevant because the wiritng was on the wall, the game is an unoptimized mess.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3421630199
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Originally posted by Ashley:
There is no point in arguing anymore. The benchmarks have spoken.
It is also obvious that the defenders don't have the technical know-how to even understand why.

"Why not use the technology?" Because you don't use frame gen to hit 60. You use it to go above 60. "Why?" Because these are not real frames. All they do is make a 30 fps game look like a 60 fps game (or 60 like 120). It still plays and feels like a 30 fps game (basically a Switch port). The lower you go, the worse it plays, the fewer frames you can generate, etc. This is especially bad for 120+ fps gamers like me. I can't just magically quadruple my frames. All of this is basic PC gaming knowledge. You. Should. Know. This.

DLSS and frame gen are supposed to help let lower-spec PCs play newer games with a trade-off. Now that trade-off is basically a requirement - and some of you act like that's completely fine. Absolutely baffling behavior that can only be explained by ignorance if you ask me.

If you're fine with the game's performance, by all means, enjoy it.
You do you, I am not going to stop you.

But don't think you can come here and freaking argue with people who know better.
If we stop replying, it's not because you "won", but because we deem you a lost cause not worthy of our time.

Digital Foundry will tear this thing apart, btw.
You know it, I know it, the people at Capcom know it.

I am so disappointed.
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Moonwitch Feb 5 @ 6:33pm 
Originally posted by Reb Militia:
Additional Notes: SSD required. This game is expected to run at 1080p / 60 fps (with Frame Generation enabled) under the "Medium" graphics setting."

^funniest part about the store page and yet people still cope that it isnt poorly optimized
It's Dragon's Dogma 2 and Remnant II all over again.
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DAVOS CENSORSHIP 2030 FTW!!! Feb 5 @ 6:41pm 
Hey Geniuses, you also deny artifacting issues on Fake Frame Gen XD.

Gotta crank up all them Input Lag and Latency Introducing Blurry ASS Ghosting TAA Vaseline Gimmicks to barely make your Lazy ♥♥♥♥ run at "Variable" 60 FPS.
Last edited by DAVOS CENSORSHIP 2030 FTW!!!; Feb 5 @ 6:44pm
#107
Mugen Feb 5 @ 6:49pm 
Running a 6900xt ultra settings FSR 3.1 quality and get avg 65fps. no problems here... 2560x1440 res
#108
Sigent Feb 5 @ 6:50pm 
AMD Ryzen 5 7600
NVIDIA Gefore RTX 4070 Ti OC
32GB DDR5 RAM @ 6000

Game runs fine for me, both in benchmark and in the 1st beta it never dips below 60 on ultra with raytracing 1440p. With DLSS and framegen, I get 110 to 130 FPS.

Block me. Do it.
Last edited by Sigent; Feb 5 @ 6:51pm
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Reb Militia Feb 5 @ 8:02pm 
Originally posted by Sigent:
AMD Ryzen 5 7600
NVIDIA Gefore RTX 4070 Ti OC
32GB DDR5 RAM @ 6000

Game runs fine for me, both in benchmark and in the 1st beta it never dips below 60 on ultra with raytracing 1440p. With DLSS and framegen, I get 110 to 130 FPS.

Block me. Do it.
bro thinks 60 fps in 2025 is good. also I have twice the ram and a 4090 and do not get "110 to 130 fps" with DLSS and framegen so youre lying. cope.

EDIT: oh you said 1440p. Baby's first PC?
Last edited by Reb Militia; Feb 5 @ 8:03pm
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SHOKK♥ Feb 5 @ 8:04pm 
Your GPU is basically a glorified upscaler and frame generating component. These developers can't really do much more with it. Every damn game is giga cpu bound now which is gettin real stupid and annoying lol.
Originally posted by Sigent:
AMD Ryzen 5 7600
NVIDIA Gefore RTX 4070 Ti OC
32GB DDR5 RAM @ 6000

Game runs fine for me, both in benchmark and in the 1st beta it never dips below 60 on ultra with raytracing 1440p. With DLSS and framegen, I get 110 to 130 FPS.

Block me. Do it.

Only that much? My condolences for all the money put into the machine and the game doesn't respect it.
Last edited by SHOKK♥; Feb 5 @ 8:05pm
#111
NezahualDoomer Feb 5 @ 8:51pm 
Originally posted by SHOKK♥:
Your GPU is basically a glorified upscaler and frame generating component. These developers can't really do much more with it. Every damn game is giga cpu bound now which is gettin real stupid and annoying lol.
Originally posted by Sigent:
AMD Ryzen 5 7600
NVIDIA Gefore RTX 4070 Ti OC
32GB DDR5 RAM @ 6000

Game runs fine for me, both in benchmark and in the 1st beta it never dips below 60 on ultra with raytracing 1440p. With DLSS and framegen, I get 110 to 130 FPS.

Block me. Do it.

Only that much? My condolences for all the money put into the machine and the game doesn't respect it.

What is happening to gaming is a disgrace, you are correct in what you say, GPU's this days are just lame just look at the 5000 generation barely any improvement if you don't use DLSS4 which is fake power.

I also agree with the respnse you did to that fanatic.
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Scyris Feb 5 @ 9:43pm 
Reminds me of Stalker 2 all over again.
#113
Sigent Feb 5 @ 9:44pm 
Originally posted by Reb Militia:
Originally posted by Sigent:
AMD Ryzen 5 7600
NVIDIA Gefore RTX 4070 Ti OC
32GB DDR5 RAM @ 6000

Game runs fine for me, both in benchmark and in the 1st beta it never dips below 60 on ultra with raytracing 1440p. With DLSS and framegen, I get 110 to 130 FPS.

Block me. Do it.
bro thinks 60 fps in 2025 is good. also I have twice the ram and a 4090 and do not get "110 to 130 fps" with DLSS and framegen so youre lying. cope.

EDIT: oh you said 1440p. Baby's first PC?

Lol, way to misread and call me a liar, and then edit with an attempt to save face by dunking on my monitor I've had for 7 years. At least I wasn't dumb enough to dump over a grand on just a GPU, my whole PC cost less than just your graphics card lmao.
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Nyxtus Feb 5 @ 9:44pm 
And what's with the frame pacing? This ♥♥♥♥ is bouncing around like crazy for me.
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Sigent Feb 5 @ 9:48pm 
Originally posted by NezahualDoomer:
Originally posted by SHOKK♥:
Your GPU is basically a glorified upscaler and frame generating component. These developers can't really do much more with it. Every damn game is giga cpu bound now which is gettin real stupid and annoying lol.


Only that much? My condolences for all the money put into the machine and the game doesn't respect it.

What is happening to gaming is a disgrace, you are correct in what you say, GPU's this days are just lame just look at the 5000 generation barely any improvement if you don't use DLSS4 which is fake power.

I also agree with the respnse you did to that fanatic.

You know, I agreed with SHOKK up until the smarm. I don't like how devs are relying on DLSS and upscaling to make stuff run. I love the technology, but hate the implementation. But calling 60+ FPS without DLSS or framegen "unplayable" is just plain stupid, and why I responded to the thread in the first place. And to see if you would actually block like you said you would, which you didn't. Should it be better? Yeah, it should. But it's not as catastrophically bad as a lot of other new releases. And calling anyone who disagrees with you a fanatic is just some Reddit tier garbage, lol
Last edited by Sigent; Feb 5 @ 9:49pm
#116
Hornbach Loungeset Feb 5 @ 9:54pm 
You'd think that fentbob guy got paid to defend and cry like this.

I'm so glad i'm not him.
#117
Prismatic Lollipop Feb 6 @ 12:55am 
Originally posted by D. Flame:
Originally posted by Kenuty:


you don't need a 4070

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3421404844

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3421436309



Did both test in 2k and 4k, one with raytracing on and its over 60 fps which is fine for a MH .

This is on a 3080 rtx ti.
my card doesn't evne have FRAME GEN
A 3080 is on par with a 4070, and you have a 3080ti.

A 3080ti is still over $800 on Amazon, so whatever point you think you are making, you really aren't.

no, a 4070 and 3080 are absolutely not on par.
i suggest you check more legitimate comparisons between the two.
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GamingWithSilvertail Feb 6 @ 1:03am 
Originally posted by D. Flame:
Originally posted by Kenuty:


you don't need a 4070

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3421404844

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3421436309



Did both test in 2k and 4k, one with raytracing on and its over 60 fps which is fine for a MH .

This is on a 3080 rtx ti.
my card doesn't evne have FRAME GEN
A 3080 is on par with a 4070, and you have a 3080ti.

A 3080ti is still over $800 on Amazon, so whatever point you think you are making, you really aren't.
What are you even on about here?

A 4070 is on par with the TI, not the 3080...

And the 4070 will get better advantage out of it cause it can use FG above native 60+...
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Cadaver Feb 6 @ 1:03am 
I run stably above 60 on my system without FG, with FG i can reach between 130 and 180 depending on the scene.

Optimisation is definitely an important thing but, people are exagerated how "bad" the performance is.
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