Requiring DLSS and Frame Generation is a TRAVESTY

[NezahualDoomer]

This technologies were for the CONSUMERS not for lazy developers that can't and won't optimize their games, requiring DLSS and Frame Generation for 1080 is nothing short of a TRAVESTY.

Your game has to be AWFULLY optimized for that to be true, I don't even remember a single game that has done this.

The Beta was AWFUL and showed us exactly how bad performing this game was, even 4000 series cards had to RELY on Frame Generation to get some playable fps, it's honestly a joke, like I said, nothing short of a travesty.

"i dIDnT hAd aNi IZzU!"

Stop lying fanatics, anyone posting this or similar stuff will get an immediate block.

"oH bUt tHeY lOwErEd tHe rEKirEMeNts!"

No, they are still putting DLSS and Frame Generation as requierements, nothing is fixed until they remove those.

This is a video I made about this topic back then when the beta released, the links are on the image below.

And somehow this video IS still relevant because the wiritng was on the wall, the game is an unoptimized mess.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3421630199

[NezahualDoomer]

Originally posted by Moonwitch:

Originally posted by Mythily:

Do you really not get it? You're the minority with your enthusiast tier card. Performance doesn't matter when you brute force it.

He thinks 83 fps on 1080p is good on a 4080 super. :Laughing_Varric:

That is exactly the problem, this FANATICS are normalizing this bad performance and gaslighting themselves and everyone else around them into thinking it's acceptable that a 4000 series card cant get past 80 fps as if we are talking of a 2000 series card.

[JudgeTy]

Originally posted by 1080Puktra:

Originally posted by JudgeTy:

I'm playing at 4k HDR ULTRA 70+. That's literally for enthusiasts.

If you can't keep up with slightly better than console hardware performance... grab a console.

The issue is everyone grabbed 1440p and 4k monitors expecting their hardware to adapt. It's not the case.

The entitled non enthusiast pc gamer wants to have a 1440p monitor and play games at 240 fps with a 3060 in it, then blame devs for their out of date hardware.

Over Exaggerating much.... I would at least hope a high end or at the very least a mid range rig to have a stable 60fps without needing upscaling at 1440p or at the very lest 1080p for a game with last gen graphics.

I'm not https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey

More than 20% of all Steam users have a 1440p monitor
The highest GPU is 3060... with the next total ~20% also having 3060 equivalent or worse.

[JudgeTy]

Originally posted by NezahualDoomer:

Originally posted by Moonwitch:

He thinks 83 fps on 1080p is good on a 4080 super. :Laughing_Varric:

That is exactly the problem, this FANATICS are normalizing this bad performance and gaslighting themselves and everyone else around them into thinking it's acceptable that a 4000 series card cant get past 80 fps as if we are talking of a 2000 series card.

I mentioned my 4k.. its 70 fps. https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3429995252

Nice try tho.

[BEEP!]

Originally posted by JudgeTy:

Originally posted by 1080Puktra:

Over Exaggerating much.... I would at least hope a high end or at the very least a mid range rig to have a stable 60fps without needing upscaling at 1440p or at the very lest 1080p for a game with last gen graphics.

I'm not https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey

More than 20% of all Steam users have a 1440p monitor
The highest GPU is 3060... with the next total ~20% also having 3060 equivalent or worse.

You literally just proved yourself wrong dude the majority of people use 1080p and aim for 60fps and the minority use 1440p and the extreme minority use 4K.
And good job ignoring basically my whole post what about the mid range and high end rigs that struggling getting at least a stable 60fps at 1440p and 1080p without needing upscaling.

[casdarius]

Originally posted by Fentbob Tweakerpants:

Originally posted by NezahualDoomer:

-4070 TI
-64 gb RAM
-i5 13600K

You are blocked now, nothing good will come from talking to you.

Damn that's crazy, I really don't care. Either turn on the Frame Gen you paid for or stop whining. I don't need more tourists coming into this franchise to ruin it for stupid ♥♥♥♥ that they can easily solve.

no and i shouldnt have to simply to play a game... getting lazy because "frame gen will carry it bro" its the very eseence of cutting your nose off to spite your own face.

[Angry Pirate]

Maybe it's because I'm 40 but I watched the benchmark with framegen on and off and didn't notice a difference other than with it I got 30 extra frames on average. I think in the end it was 65 without and 97 with. That was with everything on ultra. Obviously that's just a vertical slice of the game carefully curated but I don't see the issue.

*squints to see screen clearly*

[Bacuda]

Originally posted by JudgeTy:

Look at that yet another system running 80 fps on ultra without DLSS or frame gen. Who'd a thunk it. Careful OP might block you.

That's not good, it's terrible, specially on 1080p hello? the benchmark is 2/3 cutscenes, actual gameplay is what we care about, and that will turn those 80 fps into low 50's to high 40's just from the benchmark itself, now add other players to it, add Denuvo, add combat and play in a foresty area instead of the desert, how do you think that will be, hm?

No matter what you say or try make us believe, optimization was terrible in the beta and benchmark, that's just a fact.

[Redu]

Originally posted by JudgeTy:

Me Shows proof. Gets blocked by OP. OP is just farming. He has more awards from idiots who agree with him. so that's why I'm bumping. Gotta fleece his fellow bozos.

Check out my profile pictures or other posts if you want proof of the gaming running amazing on a 2021 mid PC with a 4080 super.

I get ultra 4k 70 fps, no frame gen and 1080p 83 fps, no frame gen. Ultimate max settings.

Frame gen doubles those.


OP has a 4070 ti. A mid card for 1440p needing thoughts and prayers for Ultra.

You cant call a 4080 super a mid card, its literally one of the best gpu's around, its just a little worse than a 4090 with less vram.

[JudgeTy]

Originally posted by Bacuda:

Originally posted by JudgeTy:

Look at that yet another system running 80 fps on ultra without DLSS or frame gen. Who'd a thunk it. Careful OP might block you.

That's not good, it's terrible, specially on 1080p hello? the benchmark is 2/3 cutscenes, actual gameplay is what we care about, and that will turn those 80 fps into low 50's to high 40's just from the benchmark itself, now add other players to it, add Denuvo, add combat and play in a foresty area instead of the desert, how do you think that will be, hm?

No matter what you say or try make us believe, optimization was terrible in the beta and benchmark, that's just a fact.

I get double those frames with Frame gen and on my 4k HDR G8 I don't notice the difference with frame gen on.

[NeoX]

Originally posted by 1080Puktra:

Originally posted by JudgeTy:

I'm not https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey

More than 20% of all Steam users have a 1440p monitor
The highest GPU is 3060... with the next total ~20% also having 3060 equivalent or worse.

You literally just proved yourself wrong dude the majority of people use 1080p and aim for 60fps and the minority use 1440p and the extreme minority use 4K.
And good job ignoring basically my whole post what about the mid range and high end rigs that struggling getting at least a stable 60fps at 1440p and 1080p without needing upscaling.

I just want to leave some words of warning about this "very special" person you are talking to.

He seems to have massive issues with basic logic and ignores facts that do not support his PoV.

We had quite the madness with this one:
https://steamcommunity.com/app/2246340/discussions/0/720115720988408422/?tscn=1740520241

Better just block and ignore. Your sanity may be at risk otherwise.

[Moonwitch]

Originally posted by JudgeTy:

Originally posted by NezahualDoomer:

That is exactly the problem, this FANATICS are normalizing this bad performance and gaslighting themselves and everyone else around them into thinking it's acceptable that a 4000 series card cant get past 80 fps as if we are talking of a 2000 series card.

I mentioned my 4k.. its 70 fps. https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3429995252

Nice try tho.

Cant wait to see that smile on your face disappear when you realize you're not actually getting 70fps on launch.

[JudgeTy]

Originally posted by Redu:

Originally posted by JudgeTy:

Me Shows proof. Gets blocked by OP. OP is just farming. He has more awards from idiots who agree with him. so that's why I'm bumping. Gotta fleece his fellow bozos.

Check out my profile pictures or other posts if you want proof of the gaming running amazing on a 2021 mid PC with a 4080 super.

I get ultra 4k 70 fps, no frame gen and 1080p 83 fps, no frame gen. Ultimate max settings.

Frame gen doubles those.


OP has a 4070 ti. A mid card for 1440p needing thoughts and prayers for Ultra.

You cant call a 4080 super a mid card, its literally one of the best gpu's around, its just a little worse than a 4090 with less vram.

The 4080 super is a mid card FOR 2025. The 4 series have been out for over 3 years. If you have not updated your system in 4 years, you are gonna be on low or mid.

[JudgeTy]

Originally posted by NeoX:

Originally posted by 1080Puktra:

You literally just proved yourself wrong dude the majority of people use 1080p and aim for 60fps and the minority use 1440p and the extreme minority use 4K.
And good job ignoring basically my whole post what about the mid range and high end rigs that struggling getting at least a stable 60fps at 1440p and 1080p without needing upscaling.

I just want to leave some words of warning about this "very special" person you are talking to.

He seems to have massive issues with basic logic and ignores facts that do not support his PoV.

We had quite the madness with this one:
https://steamcommunity.com/app/2246340/discussions/0/720115720988408422/?tscn=1740520241

Better just block and ignore. Your sanity may be at risk otherwise.

Oh this guy here thinks the game is CPU bottle necked.

[Moonwitch]

Originally posted by Bacuda:

Originally posted by JudgeTy:

Look at that yet another system running 80 fps on ultra without DLSS or frame gen. Who'd a thunk it. Careful OP might block you.

That's not good, it's terrible, specially on 1080p hello? the benchmark is 2/3 cutscenes, actual gameplay is what we care about, and that will turn those 80 fps into low 50's to high 40's just from the benchmark itself, now add other players to it, add Denuvo, add combat and play in a foresty area instead of the desert, how do you think that will be, hm?

No matter what you say or try make us believe, optimization was terrible in the beta and benchmark, that's just a fact.

Some people just want to learn the hard way.

[JudgeTy]

Originally posted by Moonwitch:

Originally posted by JudgeTy:

I mentioned my 4k.. its 70 fps. https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3429995252

Nice try tho.

Cant wait to see that smile on your face disappear when you realize you're not actually getting 70fps on launch.

I'm expecting 100 fps with Frame gen on. Just like first descendant.