Benchmark on Linux is horrible (16.97 FPS, score 4235)

[Jobko]

3070 + 5600X + 32GB ram on 1440p lowest settings, FSR ultra performance, frame generation on.

GE-Proton9-23, Wayland, Fedora 41, KDE Plasma.

Doesn't run well on 720p either (20-30 fps).

30-60% CPU utilization.

EDIT:

It's a VRAM issue. Anything more than Steam being open, such as opening Discord to talk with friends while I play the game, instantly causes me to lose most of my frame rate. Even in the most optimal situation with nothing open at the lowest settings I am getting only 70 fps. Compare that to Black Myth Wukong 70 fps w/ FSR ultra perf 40-60% at 4k resolution, frame gen, medium to high settings, low effects, w/ a bunch of applications open, and I find no justifiable way to explain this games performance.

I hear that people who dual boot find they get 10-20% more performance on Windows, however that would still not be enough for me to properly enjoy the game with the performance/visuals I am getting. So regardless I will not be picking up this game. Dragon's Dogma 2 ran better on the same engine, and that game had awful CPU problems and was severely unoptimized. I have been able to run every new gen CAPCOM game until now.

EDIT 2:

Tried X11, lost 5 more fps; it's not a Wayland issue. I also tried Proton Experimental, doesn't change anything.

EDIT 3: turning off Steam's in-built recorder allowed me to hit a good VRAM on medium settings 4k - 1440p on DLSS, allowing me to hit acceptable framerates. However these framerates were extremely inconsistent and would go up and down constantly by a margin of 10 fps, so expect if you're hitting 60 fps to randomly drop to 50 or less on a constant basis.

EDIT 4:

I'm sick of discussing this. The game runs on Linux.

The only performance benefits on Windows is not because Windows = pog, it's because Nvidia released drivers that aren't on Linux yet. The 10-20% uplift of these drivers do not mean the game runs good on Windows, because the framerate you get from that is still unacceptable for the visuals present.

Dragon's Dogma 2 got obliterated by reviews for bad performance on all platforms, this game WILL be the same, and is already showing signs.

This isn't a matter of Windows vs. Linux, my original title was assuming it was because of Linux, but if you actually read through the post I discuss WHY this is a VRAM issue. If you can not understand why VRAM is the issue even after reading this post, and still somehow think that magically Windows is giving you 50 more frames than Linux because Windows = pog. you're not capable of reasoning.

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Цитата допису D. Flame:

Цитата допису Ammo:

it is just the driver, any 3070 can do double that number on windows systems. wait a bit until nvidia launch new driver. (i would have daily drive my ubuntu if not for anticheat as all my game using anticheat)

Not true. Nvidia on Linux will usually be within single digit fps of the windows equivalent.

Sure, if the game optimized for Linux but CURRENTLY it is not. Heck, it's not even optimized for windows. You either keep on getting angry or wait until there are more optimization being made.

Others already told you try on windows but you refuse, so what's the point getting angry about?

[Jobko]

I will also mention again, MHWorlds runs perfect on max settings at 4k on my rig. There is no excuse. I can run Resident Evil Village, 4 remake, MHWorlds, Dragon's Dogma 2, basically every CAPCOM game up until this one. It's the same ♥♥♥♥ with Square Enix, where I can run all Final Fantasy games up until 16, even the FF7 remakes. I don't know what happened to these companies recently, but I've given up on caring about these new games man. If Black Myth Wukong can look better than these games by several generations while running above 60 fps on my rig, there is no excuse.

[Jobko]

Цитата допису 【 TRAINING ARC 】:

Цитата допису D. Flame:

Not true. Nvidia on Linux will usually be within single digit fps of the windows equivalent.

Sure, if the game optimized for Linux but CURRENTLY it is not. Heck, it's not even optimized for windows. You either keep on getting angry or wait until there are more optimization being made.

Others already told you try on windows but you refuse, so what's the point getting angry about?

Usually running a game through Proton/Wine fixes any incompatibilities Linux has with Windows. There is something fundamentally wrong with this game that's making it not work. I can even run Easy Anti-Cheat games. I've ran every CAPCOM game up until this point. I ran Black Myth Wukong completely fine. It's not just them not supporting Linux, most games that run on Linux are not Native, very few are.

Also just saying to move to an entirely different OS as "advice" is honestly so bad. It's as bad as "just get a new PC". If a game is optimized poorly and looks poor and runs poor, it's the developers fault, no need for anyone to do anything until they sort their ♥♥♥♥ out.

[D. Flame]

Цитата допису 【 TRAINING ARC 】:

Цитата допису D. Flame:

Not true. Nvidia on Linux will usually be within single digit fps of the windows equivalent.

Sure, if the game optimized for Linux but CURRENTLY it is not. Heck, it's not even optimized for windows. You either keep on getting angry or wait until there are more optimization being made.

Others already told you try on windows but you refuse, so what's the point getting angry about?

RE Engine just sucks for open world games. DD2 already proved that.

[court]

Цитата допису Jobko:

3070 + 5600X + 32GB ram on 1440p lowest settings, FSR ultra performance, frame generation on.

I am running RTX 3070 + 5900x + 32GB DDR4 + game installed M.2 NVME SSD. I am running NVIDIA 565.77 proprietary drivers on Arch, with KDE Desktop with Wayland. I was able to get a 17489 score with the same lower settings at 1440p, I did however have FSR on balanced upscaling. However, there were a few texture glitches during some of the open world game test on some rocks.

This game does run better under Win 11 at higher settings.... But I am hoping the newer NVIDIA drivers on Linux will help with this game. We will just see how this game launches in 3 weeks ...

[Jobko]

Цитата допису court:

Цитата допису Jobko:

3070 + 5600X + 32GB ram on 1440p lowest settings, FSR ultra performance, frame generation on.

I am running RTX 3070 + 5900x + 32GB DDR4 + game installed M.2 NVME SSD. I am running NVIDIA 565.77 proprietary drivers on Arch, with KDE Desktop with Wayland. I was able to get a 17489 score with the same lower settings at 1440p, I did however have FSR on balanced upscaling. However, there were a few texture glitches during some of the open world game test on some rocks.

This does game much better for me under Win 11 at higher settings.... But I am hoping the newer NVIDIA drivers on Linux will help with this game. We will just see how this game launches in 3 weeks :rathbone:...

I'm on a similar setup. 3070 + 5600X + 32 GB DDR4 + M.2 NVME SSD, latest Nvidia drivers, KDE Plasma on Wayland. Main difference is CPU and I'm on Fedora, not Arch, and I was running lowest possible settings just before with 720p and frame gen on ulra performance, and I got 20-30 fps.

Very unsure what is making your score that much better than mine or what the issue is.

[Rhila]

Sorry to say this but Linux is very bad for gaming 😉

[D. Flame]

Цитата допису Rhila:

Sorry to say this but Linux is very bad for gaming 😉

The Steam Deck uses Linux, so even Steam disagrees with you.

[Leschar]

Man it's like Linux isn't good for gaming. :/

[Leschar]

Цитата допису D. Flame:

Цитата допису Rhila:

Sorry to say this but Linux is very bad for gaming 😉

The Steam Deck uses Linux, so even Steam disagrees with you.

SteamOS is Linux but the amount of work they had to put in to make stuff run is a lot lol. Windows will always run games better.

[Jobko]

Цитата допису Rhila:

Sorry to say this but Linux is very bad for gaming 😉

As someone who was on Windows for 17 years, I can say this is just wrong. Windows frequently has issues with games, and the older the game is and the newer the Windows version, the more problems you'll have.

I have over 1600 games, and according to ProtonDB I can run 92% of them, and 84% of them basically out of the box. With Wayland, Steam Deck, Proton, Wine, GE, Lutris, Heroic Games Launcher, and emulation, you can do SO much gaming on Linux. All borked games are rootkit games with extremely predatory anti-cheats which I don't want to play for privacy reasons, so I don't care. Most bronze games are poorly developed games like Monster Hunter Wilds that use garbage engines not designed for open world games.

[Jobko]

Цитата допису Leschar:

Цитата допису D. Flame:

The Steam Deck uses Linux, so even Steam disagrees with you.

SteamOS is Linux but the amount of work they had to put in to make stuff run is a lot lol. Windows will always run games better.

SteamOS doesn't run games better than any other Linux OS. It's all Proton doing the heavy lifting, not SteamOS.

[Jobko]

Цитата допису Leschar:

Man it's like Linux isn't good for gaming. :/

Refer to my other comment.

[D. Flame]

Цитата допису Leschar:

Цитата допису D. Flame:

The Steam Deck uses Linux, so even Steam disagrees with you.

SteamOS is Linux but the amount of work they had to put in to make stuff run is a lot lol. Windows will always run games better.

False. There are already examples of Linux running some games better.

[court]

Цитата допису Jobko:

Цитата допису court:

I am running RTX 3070 + 5900x + 32GB DDR4 + game installed M.2 NVME SSD. I am running NVIDIA 565.77 proprietary drivers on Arch, with KDE Desktop with Wayland. I was able to get a 17489 score with the same lower settings at 1440p, I did however have FSR on balanced upscaling. However, there were a few texture glitches during some of the open world game test on some rocks.

This does game much better for me under Win 11 at higher settings.... But I am hoping the newer NVIDIA drivers on Linux will help with this game. We will just see how this game launches in 3 weeks ...

I'm on a similar setup. 3070 + 5600X + 32 GB DDR4 + M.2 NVME SSD, latest Nvidia drivers, KDE Plasma on Wayland. Main difference is CPU and I'm on Fedora, not Arch, and I was running lowest possible settings just before with 720p and frame gen on ulra performance, and I got 20-30 fps.

Very unsure what is making your score that much better than mine or what the issue is.

Цитата допису Jobko:

Цитата допису court:

I am running RTX 3070 + 5900x + 32GB DDR4 + game installed M.2 NVME SSD. I am running NVIDIA 565.77 proprietary drivers on Arch, with KDE Desktop with Wayland. I was able to get a 17489 score with the same lower settings at 1440p, I did however have FSR on balanced upscaling. However, there were a few texture glitches during some of the open world game test on some rocks.

This does game much better for me under Win 11 at higher settings.... But I am hoping the newer NVIDIA drivers on Linux will help with this game. We will just see how this game launches in 3 weeks ...

I'm on a similar setup. 3070 + 5600X + 32 GB DDR4 + M.2 NVME SSD, latest Nvidia drivers, KDE Plasma on Wayland. Main difference is CPU and I'm on Fedora, not Arch, and I was running lowest possible settings just before with 720p and frame gen on ulra performance, and I got 20-30 fps.

Very unsure what is making your score that much better than mine or what the issue is.

I am wondering if this is a CPU bound issue? This generation of consoles are 8 cores, you have a 6 core and I am running a 12 core. However I know throwing a bunch of cores at certain games won't fix anything. The overall speed of the PCIE, CPU GHZ, and cache matters more than cores. Which our processors aren't much different in that aspect. I know my CPU has a bit more cache and speed compared to the 5600x.