Denuvo is gonna kill this game on release (clearly a hyperbole)

[BrrVlad]

I find it funny how people think release is gonna be better than the benchmark , have fun seeing a 20% drop on fps , crashes , cpu being to used . Its not for nothing that they removed denuvo on world after 4 months

[Kenuty]

Diposting pertama kali oleh BrrVlad:

I find it funny how people think release is gonna be better than the benchmark , have fun seeing a 20% drop on fps , crashes , cpu being to used . Its not for nothing that they removed denuvo on world after 4 months

thats because they sold 2.5 million copies in the first week, its used to deter piracy for the first initial month. once they reach their sales goal they'll take it off for ya, but other than that, denuvo doesn't cause any issue with performance, I've owned every denuvo game there is.

watching people cry wolf without evidence is absolutely hilarious, mhw ran the same with and without denuvo.

[BrrVlad]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Kenuty:

Diposting pertama kali oleh BrrVlad:

I find it funny how people think release is gonna be better than the benchmark , have fun seeing a 20% drop on fps , crashes , cpu being to used . Its not for nothing that they removed denuvo on world after 4 months

thats because they sold 2.5 million copies in the first week, its used to deter piracy for the first initial month. once they reach their sales goal they'll take it off for ya, but other than that, denuvo doesn't cause any issue with performance, I've owned every denuvo game there is.

watching people cry wolf without evidence is absolutely hilarious, mhw ran the same with and without denuvo.

You are just lying its a straight fact that world ran better after denuvo was removed and there is a lot of documentation that proves that denuvo takes performance, a lot of games plan that ahead of time but not capcom apparently with dogma 2 and world before

[Kenuty]

Diposting pertama kali oleh BrrVlad:

Diposting pertama kali oleh Kenuty:

thats because they sold 2.5 million copies in the first week, its used to deter piracy for the first initial month. once they reach their sales goal they'll take it off for ya, but other than that, denuvo doesn't cause any issue with performance, I've owned every denuvo game there is.

watching people cry wolf without evidence is absolutely hilarious, mhw ran the same with and without denuvo.

You are just lying its a straight fact that world ran better after denuvo was removed and there is a llt of documentation that proves that denuvo takes performance a lot of games plan that ahead of time but not capcom apparently with dogma 2 and world before

Post these straight facts? All i can find is
https://www.reddit.com/r/Games/comments/nr299a/monster_hunter_world_on_steam_has_removed_denuvo/

and people are saying it runs the same, so uh, yeah where are your facts feel free to post solid evidence, not journalist write ups and bs from other people mouth.

My fact is, I stream those games, no difference in performance, literally with or without denuvo. My evidence is, I literally livestream myself and my fps with no changes in it running ANY better. So why would I be lying about something I do on air while observing the performance remain the same.

Everyone who has cried on these forums about denuvo has NEVER presented any solid proof that it causes performance degradation at all, Not one person who has done what you did has presented solid evidence and test. Still using the same SSD for years and waiting for it to blow up like people have claimed about Denuvo degrading your ssd and causing it to blow up.

Denuvo going to kill this game on release?
Uh no, I think i'll just call it that it'll do quite well on release, just like other denuvo big hitters.

[BrrVlad]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Kenuty:

Diposting pertama kali oleh BrrVlad:

You are just lying its a straight fact that world ran better after denuvo was removed and there is a llt of documentation that proves that denuvo takes performance a lot of games plan that ahead of time but not capcom apparently with dogma 2 and world before

Post these straight facts? All i can find is
https://www.reddit.com/r/Games/comments/nr299a/monster_hunter_world_on_steam_has_removed_denuvo/

and people are saying it runs the same, so uh, yeah where are your facts feel free to post solid evidence, not journalist write ups and bs from other people mouth.

My fact is, I stream those games, no difference in performance, literally with or without denuvo. My evidence is, I literally livestream myself and my fps with no changes in it running ANY better. So why would I be lying about something I do on air while observing the performance remain the same.

Everyone who has cried on these forums about denuvo has NEVER presented any solid proof that it causes performance degradation at all, Not one person who has done what you did has presented solid evidence and test. Still using the same SSD for years and waiting for it to blow up like people have claimed about Denuvo degrading your ssd and causing it to blow up.

Denuvo going to kill this game on release?
Uh no, I think i'll just call it that it'll do quite well on release, just like other denuvo big hitters.

Here DUMASS its quite litteraly a drm ofc its gonna impact frames and how well the game plays (on a sidenote learn to do researchs i mean just type denuvo impact on performance you are gonna be surprised a lot better than your source that is trust me bro)and for a game like wilds that is cpu heavy its gonna be way worse https://youtu.be/07NMuobVVwQ?si=MNa_mXnqYHSdHRt1

[lukaself]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Kenuty:

Everyone who has cried on these forums about denuvo has NEVER presented any solid proof that it causes performance degradation at all,

How about the developers of Denuvo themselves? It's been recently acknowledged by Denuvo's own product manager, actually. They have admitted their middleware affects performance right after they backpedaled on the statement they made last year that they could prove it doesn't. It has an impact developers have to devote extra time and resources to compensate for as stated by the producers for Humankind and Tekken 8 for instance - the reason why you don't notice the impact is because the game devs did a good job, not because Denuvo has no impact. This debate has been settled months ago.

RPS: Do you deny that Denuvo negatively affects performance in all cases?
Andreas Ullmann: No, and I think that's also something that we've stated in our FAQ on Discord.

In any case, it's clear the games performance is subpar currently and whether it has a large impact on performance or not, implementing Denuvo and wasting development resources on DRM before the game is properly optimized for paying customers shows a wrong order of priorities from CAPCOM. They're literally obsessed with non-paying customers to the detriment of their fanbase and it will come back to bite them in the ass. Ask Ubisoft how that mindset is going for them currently...

[DDENN]

denuvo just deter those not top class cpus

[GamingWithSilvertail]

Diposting pertama kali oleh BrrVlad:

Diposting pertama kali oleh Kenuty:

thats because they sold 2.5 million copies in the first week, its used to deter piracy for the first initial month. once they reach their sales goal they'll take it off for ya, but other than that, denuvo doesn't cause any issue with performance, I've owned every denuvo game there is.

watching people cry wolf without evidence is absolutely hilarious, mhw ran the same with and without denuvo.

You are just lying its a straight fact that world ran better after denuvo was removed and there is a lot of documentation that proves that denuvo takes performance, a lot of games plan that ahead of time but not capcom apparently with dogma 2 and world before

Removal of Denuvo did not improve performance. Disavling volumetric lightning on the other hand, did.

There's lots of documentation that Denuvo at most takes about 4% of performance when you look at frames of stutter, but there is only very few cases stutters where a problem.

Denuvo is only a problem if not implemented properly.

[Freak4Leeks]

Doubt it, it's more the engine, it just wasn't build for open worlds, it's no coincidence that the 2 open worlds built on the engine perform bad, although wilds is far better then dd2

[FirebirdEx]

Diposting pertama kali oleh BrrVlad:

I find it funny how people think release is gonna be better than the benchmark , have fun seeing a 20% drop on fps , crashes , cpu being to used . Its not for nothing that they removed denuvo on world after 4 months

so it will kill the game like any other Capcom game that has denuvo for years? oh wait it doesnt. RE top seller, SF 6 top seller, MH world top seller.....

you are a clown

[Folklore56]

There are a few examples of games running better pirated, without Denuvo, straight up ignoring historical data and examples is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ wild from these comments.

[FirebirdEx]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Folklore56:

There are a few examples of games running better pirated, without Denuvo, straight up ignoring historical data and examples is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ wild from these comments.

dude you probably watched a video about someone crying about denuvo and now you parrot that statement.
i played all these other capcom games with denuvo and without ♥♥♥♥♥♥ fps or any other problems.
unless you have a toaster where every single frame counts then denuvo wont do anything

[Acquire]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Folklore56:

There are a few examples of games running better pirated, without Denuvo, straight up ignoring historical data and examples is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ wild from these comments.

This is a classic generalization fallacy. A few examples of bad integrations of Denuvo are not evidence that Denuvo as a whole is bad especially when we have tons of games using Denuvo without issue. Who's ignoring historical data and examples? You are. There is no evidence to show that Denuvo inherently causes any significant performance degradation.
It's wild to make such an ignorant comment.

[lukaself]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Acquire:

Diposting pertama kali oleh Folklore56:

There are a few examples of games running better pirated, without Denuvo, straight up ignoring historical data and examples is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ wild from these comments.

This is a classic generalization fallacy. A few examples of bad integrations of Denuvo are not evidence that Denuvo as a whole is bad especially when we have tons of games using Denuvo without issue. Who's ignoring historical data and examples? You are. There is no evidence to show that Denuvo inherently causes any significant performance degradation.
It's wild to make such an ignorant comment.

I just love how everyone is just ignoring that Denuvo's product manager himself confirmed the performance impact. I'm out, you guys don't want the truth, you just want to bicker endlessly.

[Acquire]

Diposting pertama kali oleh lukaself:

Diposting pertama kali oleh Acquire:

This is a classic generalization fallacy. A few examples of bad integrations of Denuvo are not evidence that Denuvo as a whole is bad especially when we have tons of games using Denuvo without issue. Who's ignoring historical data and examples? You are. There is no evidence to show that Denuvo inherently causes any significant performance degradation.
It's wild to make such an ignorant comment.

I just love how everyone is just ignoring that Denuvo's product manager himself confirmed the performance impact. I'm out, you guys don't want the truth, you just want to bicker endlessly.

https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/denuvo-respond-to-their-rep-for-tanking-games-im-a-gamer-myself-and-therefore-i-know-what-im-talking-about

You mean this? Where he acknowledges that some games do end up with performance problems. Again, bad implementations of a few do not equal the whole. How about when he states that they put Denuvo in about 70 games a year and no one complains about almost any of them actually having performance problems? What about when he shows tests have been done to show no performance differences in other examples?

You are the toxic community he's talking about. People that like to cry and moan about things they are incapable of or unwilling to understand. You love having something to cry about.

[Mistamufu]

Diposting pertama kali oleh BrrVlad:

I find it funny how people think release is gonna be better than the benchmark , have fun seeing a 20% drop on fps , crashes , cpu being to used . Its not for nothing that they removed denuvo on world after 4 months

Theres literally no denuvo lmao. The game was re-packed for free on fit-girl 2 days later. stfu