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The bozo is living under a rock, thinking save editors do not exist for consoles or something.
I quoted you and referenced OP, girlie.
But you were the one who mentioned the cheated items, and I further added to it.
Are you really that sensitive? That's new.
I actually kinda miss the time where games wouild add unique cheats.
If you google it, instead you mostly find people who are moving from console monster hunter to PC, using save editors to recreate their console character/items. And while there is a save editor for consoles, it costs real money. And 2 results down you have people complaining they got banned for using it. So yeah, kinda proving the point.
I know Fromsoft does ban you if save files seem edited but Capcom I dont think ever banned someone since Mh Tri.
Have you ever heard the catchphrase, 'haters gonna hate'? Well. You can extrapolate that proverb to other fields, one of them being 'cheaters gonna cheate'.
The only thing Sony and Microsoft can detect is jailbreaking, which is less of a cheat and more of a way to tamper with your console to play games for free and obtain better performance with some games from old consoles (e.g. PS4 games played in a jailbroken PS5).
The exception is the case GamingWithSilvertail mentioned, in which they refer to Fromsoft banning people due to having an edited save file, which is not the norm. Only people playing Fromsoft games are scared because Dark Souls and Elden Ring are running anti-cheats scanning for files and value tampering.
Most of the people you mention want to recreate the save files from the console on the PC because they are on their second run and want to skip the grind after they have already done it in their first console run. They are not migrating here because they are scared to cheat on a console. They want to enjoy the game again, with gaming PC performance and without grinding all the materials a second time.
These things do not deter people from cheating:
- PSN, Xbox Live or Game bans.
- Console replacements after being caught and hardware banned.
- Cheats that require a monetary donation or subscription, such as Save Wizard.
- Cheats that are actual items you have to order, such as XIM Nexus or Cronus Zen.
Because, as I have said, cheaters are going to cheat, and they will find a way. It would not be a market if it did not have buyers.
Here's inherently the pitfall all arguments regarding this. People, like yourself conflate the fact that cheating can exist, with does it meaningfully existing on a daily basis for you. Cheaters gonna cheat is not accurate, not even in the slightest, because everyone is restricted to their economic means, and it costs your console and online to cheat, that's less times you can get caught barring you being a millionaire who this doesn't apply too. Anyone who's both played console and PC gaming for the same games can tell you world of difference.
I remember spending hundreds of hours in BF1 on xbox 1, never saw a cheater in all my time in playing. And I knew very well what cheaters look like on that game. Especially in stark contrast to playing the same game on Steam. Where the same game, same public servers, no crossplay enabled, one you'd never see a cheater, the other you'd run across 2 a match minimum, Forcing you to play private servers.
But if you go and boot up black ops 2 on the 360 during the BF1 launch days, yes cheating was galore, I suspect either microsoft or activision no longer had any moderation as an incentive to force people to new games and hardware. But clearly there is moderation on new games, whether it's manual or anti-cheat and reports, and it is a world of difference I wish I could get on PC gaming without having to go to a private server.
You are putting words in my mouth that I have never said, or you are taking a point of view I have never displayed for granted. When did I ever say you find a cheater on consoles daily? Did I ever say cheating on consoles is a problem as intense as PC cheating? Console gaming has less access to cheats, but 'cheaters are going to cheat' is accurate whether you like it or not because not every cheating action leads to a hardware ban.
That does not exist anymore. Nowadays, jailbreaking is an offline-only mode, and it is not used to cheat in games. It is only used to get games for free. If you dare to use a tampered console online, your console gets flagged and bricked.
I do not know what you understand about cheating on consoles, but nowadays, it is not what you could have done in the past.
First, you have save editors. They are undetectable because companies do not spend money buying and updating anti-cheat programs for single-player games unless they are from Fromsoft.
Second, the closest thing you have to aimbots, wallhacks, and the like is XIM & Cronus, which means playing on a console with a keyboard and mouse. What catches you using said hardware are the anti-cheats of each game, and you only lose access to that game. With PlayStation, you can use two PSNs on the same console, meaning the number of games is multiplied by two. Most are free-to-play, like Valorant, Overwatch, Marvel Rivals, etc. For those not f2p, like Rainbow Six, you have deals for four dollars. It is not that expensive in the end; if you think so, it is because you have not researched it.
To have your console bricked and hardware banned, you need to be reported by people until Sony or Microsoft reviews your case and bricks your console. If you do it well and are not blatant while ximming, your console can last years.