Am I tripping or does Critical hits hardly show up?

[LegionXNX]

I know what the critical hit emblems look like but how come I'm rocking 90-100% affinity which is max affinity and can hardly hit crits? I seen videos prior before zoh shia talking about "criting every 4 hits" but its like I don't get them. Are we in the timeline now where raw damage and elemental damage is just the way to go?

[Despell]

Without more info I can only guess what build you are using, but maybe you only looked white the monster was not enraged, you stam was not full or you didnt proc the chain attack.

affinity also only applies to raw damage and you need critical boost if you want a status to also crit,

[LegionXNX]

Originally posted by Despell:

Without more info I can only guess what build you are using, but maybe you only looked white the monster was not enraged, you stam was not full or you didnt proc the chain attack.

affinity also only applies to raw damage and you need critical boost if you want a status to also crit,

I'm running the AT Rey Dau build with crit boost and still getting nothing.

[Pizza_Force]

Originally posted by LegionXNX:

Originally posted by Despell:

Without more info I can only guess what build you are using, but maybe you only looked white the monster was not enraged, you stam was not full or you didnt proc the chain attack.

affinity also only applies to raw damage and you need critical boost if you want a status to also crit,

I'm running the AT Rey Dau build with crit boost and still getting nothing.

Got a link to the build?

[skald]

You can start by telling us what weapon you are using
And I will tell you in advance to switch to SnS

[LegionXNX]

Originally posted by skald:

You can start by telling us what weapon you are using
And I will tell you in advance to switch to SnS

rathalos LS

[Ninja-star]

Originally posted by skald:

You can start by telling us what weapon you are using
And I will tell you in advance to switch to SnS

no no dont settle for less. if you gone go sword and shield... Go Charge blade.

[Despell]

if you mean the dual blade build then you should see if you get the 90% crit rate in the training area, but yeah, dual blades have a quite low single hit damage and it might not appear as if you did a crit.

If you have masters touch it should be obvious if your weapon sharpness goes down very slow or quite fast

[Despell]

Originally posted by Ninja-star:

Originally posted by skald:

You can start by telling us what weapon you are using
And I will tell you in advance to switch to SnS

no no dont settle for less. if you gone go sword and shield... Go Charge blade.

perfect block & counter strike machine goes brrrr

[LegionXNX]

Originally posted by Despell:

if you mean the dual blade build then you should see if you get the 90% crit rate in the training area, but yeah, dual blades have a quite low single hit damage and it might not appear as if you did a crit.

If you have masters touch it should be obvious if your weapon sharpness goes down very slow or quite fast

Actually I would be getting 100% affinity with latent power, max might, then with 10% on rathalos LS with max crit boost yet some how I hardly get crits like I feel like I would honestly get better results doing a raw damage build.

[Despell]

Originally posted by LegionXNX:

Originally posted by Despell:

if you mean the dual blade build then you should see if you get the 90% crit rate in the training area, but yeah, dual blades have a quite low single hit damage and it might not appear as if you did a crit.

If you have masters touch it should be obvious if your weapon sharpness goes down very slow or quite fast

Actually I would be getting 100% affinity with latent power, max might, then with 10% on rathalos LS with max crit boost yet some how I hardly get crits like I feel like I would honestly get better results doing a raw damage build.

if you truly proc no crit despite 100% affinity in the moment you attack, then you should write a bug report to capcom about this, its just weird that you are the only one mentioning this

[LegionXNX]

Originally posted by Despell:

Originally posted by LegionXNX:

Actually I would be getting 100% affinity with latent power, max might, then with 10% on rathalos LS with max crit boost yet some how I hardly get crits like I feel like I would honestly get better results doing a raw damage build.

if you truly proc no crit despite 100% affinity in the moment you attack, then you should write a bug report to capcom about this, its just weird that you are the only one mentioning this

So this may only apply to long sword, so i did some testing results and take this with a grain of interest if you will. Charge blade seems to have a higher crit ratio when striking during swaxe mode with its buff active, I applied a lot more higher ratio of crits then I did with long sword and this is after I swapped out burst for lvl4 agitator.

Weapon tree : Zoh shia

Affinity at max: 95% for the entire tree

Critical boost: None

That is my current testing tree as of now.

Test #2

Long sword did solid enough crits till it enter blue sharpness and that is when I notice crit was drastically decreasing so perhaps using polish skill could upkeep the white sharpness for better crit damage as when I sharpen it back to white it performed back at regular levels.

weapon: long sword

Weapon tree: zoh shia

Affinity at max: 95%

[Despell]

Originally posted by LegionXNX:

Originally posted by Despell:

if you truly proc no crit despite 100% affinity in the moment you attack, then you should write a bug report to capcom about this, its just weird that you are the only one mentioning this

So this may only apply to long sword, so i did some testing results and take this with a grain of interest if you will. Charge blade seems to have a higher crit ratio when striking during swaxe mode with its buff active, I applied a lot more higher ratio of crits then I did with long sword and this is after I swapped out burst for lvl4 agitator.

Weapon tree : Zoh shia

Affinity at max: 95% for the entire tree

Critical boost: None

That is my current testing tree as of now.

dont forget to enable the latent power and other things that depend on monster state at the training cat.

I highly doubt it but maybe there is a limit how many crits you can do in a certain time and dual blades can reach that limit

[Quait]

Originally posted by LegionXNX:

Long sword did solid enough crits till it enter blue sharpness and that is when I notice crit was drastically decreasing so perhaps using polish skill could upkeep the white sharpness for better crit damage as when I sharpen it back to white it performed back at regular levels.

if you mean the damage you did decreased with sharpness, yes, thats what sharpness is.
if you mean your crit chance reduced, thats not how it works.

Sharpness is a simple damage % modifier and the only other thing it affects is the weapons chance to bounce off armored parts (which is pretty much almost absent in this game so far)
You notice a big drops in damage numbers when sharpness level decrease because thats how its designed to be. But that damage number is not because it no longer crits, its because the base damage is lowered. https://monsterhunterwilds.wiki.fextralife.com/Sharpness

The whole point of protective polish and similar is to keep your damage higher by allowing you to either keep higher sharpness levels for longer or to restore sharpness quicker.

Originally posted by LegionXNX:

So this may only apply to long sword, so i did some testing results and take this with a grain of interest if you will. Charge blade seems to have a higher crit ratio when striking during swaxe mode with its buff active, I applied a lot more higher ratio of crits then I did with long sword and this is after I swapped out burst for lvl4 agitator.

"crit ratio"? again, there is no change in crit chance or crit damage, its damage multipliers.
swaxe mode is a multiplier, it increases overall damage to axe mode hits, meaning regular axe hits do more damage, ergo crits do more damage because of that.

[LegionXNX]

Originally posted by Despell:

Originally posted by LegionXNX:

So this may only apply to long sword, so i did some testing results and take this with a grain of interest if you will. Charge blade seems to have a higher crit ratio when striking during swaxe mode with its buff active, I applied a lot more higher ratio of crits then I did with long sword and this is after I swapped out burst for lvl4 agitator.

Weapon tree : Zoh shia

Affinity at max: 95% for the entire tree

Critical boost: None

That is my current testing tree as of now.

dont forget to enable the latent power and other things that depend on monster state at the training cat.

I highly doubt it but maybe there is a limit how many crits you can do in a certain time and dual blades can reach that limit

Forgot to mention the "training dummy" is arkveld.

[LegionXNX]

Originally posted by Quait:

Originally posted by LegionXNX:

Long sword did solid enough crits till it enter blue sharpness and that is when I notice crit was drastically decreasing so perhaps using polish skill could upkeep the white sharpness for better crit damage as when I sharpen it back to white it performed back at regular levels.

if you mean the damage you did decreased with sharpness, yes, thats what sharpness is.
if you mean your crit chance reduced, thats not how it works.

Sharpness is a simple damage % modifier and the only other thing it affects is the weapons chance to bounce off armored parts (which is pretty much almost absent in this game so far)
You notice a big drops in damage numbers when sharpness level decrease because thats how its designed to be. But that damage number is not because it no longer crits, its because the base damage is lowered. https://monsterhunterwilds.wiki.fextralife.com/Sharpness

The whole point of protective polish and similar is to keep your damage higher by allowing you to either keep higher sharpness levels for longer or to restore sharpness quicker.

So the damage decreased but not the chance of it criting? odd cause it must been just good RNG crits then if sharpness has no effect on the Critical chance.