Fishing

[serunekai]

As much as I love the new mechanics for the fishing in this game, I still hate it in the end..
You literally can't do anything when the bigger fish is jumping out of the water just because it doesn't tell you where to press.
Yes i know that the fish shows u the way when jumping but it's not clear enough and I'm not the only one that hates it, I'm just the one who says is out loud.
It's supposed to be a mini game and for that it's too hard IMO since the whole other game is a baby run trough if you're not grinding.
This just makes the fishing so dull since most of the big ones get away..
There should be either a better fish animation for the jumping part or a key guide while the fish is jumping.
You should at least have a health bar for the fishing wire so you can see what you're doing wrong..

[Despell]

yeah i also had to fail a few times to find out which jump animation meant which direction and it differs between the fishes.

But the animations stay the same for the same species and some do not even jump at all.
Did you try to use the outdoor gem? it makes fishing easier

[Kaulder]

the jump timing is somewhat generous, dont guess which direction the fish is going in as soon as they jump, wait till you know what direction theyre going in. another issue is there is not really an incentive or good reward for fishing much of anything. even the "big" fish only give 20-50 points and the armor they make is lack luster.

[Despell]

Originally posted by Kaulder:

the jump timing is somewhat generous, dont guess which direction the fish is going in as soon as they jump, wait till you know what direction theyre going in. another issue is there is not really an incentive or good reward for fishing much of anything. even the "big" fish only give 20-50 points and the armor they make is lack luster.

you do it only for the glam anyway and to get the gold crowns + achievements.

[serunekai]

Originally posted by Kaulder:

the jump timing is somewhat generous, dont guess which direction the fish is going in as soon as they jump, wait till you know what direction theyre going in. another issue is there is not really an incentive or good reward for fishing much of anything. even the "big" fish only give 20-50 points and the armor they make is lack luster.

That was what i tried to do but sill it does't seem to work most of the time for some reason.. It can't be a skill issue at this point since i have some hours in for fishing, i just think the fishing is made kinda badly.
Also, not blaming the game, just saying that the mechanics are super wonky

[Inanegrain62]

the instructions for fishing isn't exaclty clear enough for me to understand which could be a skill issue, or the control explanations sucked.

I usually bait the big fish near the edge as much as possible to instantly fish them out now.

I didn't even know W+S fast / slowly tapping were the speeds for reeling in fast/slow and im still unsure what exactly is this jumping minigame when it happens.

I thought the controls suggest w/s to slowly jig my bait towards me when it isn't a reel to attract fish.

[serunekai]

Originally posted by Inanegrain62:

the instructions for fishing isn't exaclty clear enough for me to understand which could be a skill issue, or the control explanations sucked.

I usually bait the big fish near the edge as much as possible to instantly fish them out now.

I didn't even know W+S fast / slowly tapping were the speeds for reeling in fast/slow and im still unsure what exactly is this jumping minigame when it happens.

I thought the controls suggest w/s to slowly jig my bait towards me when it isn't a reel to attract fish.

Yeah that was my point, it leaves too much for the player to figure it out imo for a minigame..

I loved fishing in every MH game before this but somehow this game makes it seem more of a grind.. There should be more visual guides like in world or something at least when the fish is jumping.
I like the base idea of the fishing mechanics but the most of it doesn't feel natural...
Red dead did it better even in 2018, so i don't get why it feels so wonky

[Despell]

Originally posted by Inanegrain62:

the instructions for fishing isn't exaclty clear enough for me to understand which could be a skill issue, or the control explanations sucked.

I usually bait the big fish near the edge as much as possible to instantly fish them out now.

I didn't even know W+S fast / slowly tapping were the speeds for reeling in fast/slow and im still unsure what exactly is this jumping minigame when it happens.

I thought the controls suggest w/s to slowly jig my bait towards me when it isn't a reel to attract fish.

the closer the easier and try to fish in a spot where the fish cannot swim against a object which will strain the line, if you are unsure what to press in certain situation you can always go back to the tutorial or see in the right top which available options you have

but yeah, the fishing mechanic is not very well explained in the tutorial and you need to try a bit to get a feel for it

[Kaulder]

i dont think its well explained either

[serunekai]

Originally posted by Despell:

Originally posted by Inanegrain62:

the instructions for fishing isn't exaclty clear enough for me to understand which could be a skill issue, or the control explanations sucked.

I usually bait the big fish near the edge as much as possible to instantly fish them out now.

I didn't even know W+S fast / slowly tapping were the speeds for reeling in fast/slow and im still unsure what exactly is this jumping minigame when it happens.

I thought the controls suggest w/s to slowly jig my bait towards me when it isn't a reel to attract fish.

the closer the easier and try to fish in a spot where the fish cannot swim against a object which will strain the line, if you are unsure what to press in certain situation you can always go back to the tutorial or see in the right top which available options you have

but yeah, the fishing mechanic is not very well explained in the tutorial and you need to try a bit to get a feel for it

but still they seem to get away for some reason, even tho you try to get them to the other direction or you once flick to the wrong direction and it's gone..

It's not explained well enough in the game. That is my point.

Either you need to give the player some guides or you need so give them a health bar for the wire that you're using.

[Inanegrain62]

Originally posted by serunekai:

but still they seem to get away for some reason, even tho you try to get them to the other direction or you once flick to the wrong direction and it's gone..

It's not explained well enough in the game. That is my point.

Either you need to give the player some guides or you need so give them a health bar for the wire that you're using.

I somewhat recognize this part normally as it is getting away from too much tension on the rod in which i'd click W/S+whichever direction the fish is going

[serunekai]

Originally posted by Inanegrain62:

Originally posted by serunekai:

but still they seem to get away for some reason, even tho you try to get them to the other direction or you once flick to the wrong direction and it's gone..

It's not explained well enough in the game. That is my point.

Either you need to give the player some guides or you need so give them a health bar for the wire that you're using.

I somewhat recognize this part normally as it is getting away from too much tension on the rod in which i'd click W/S+whichever direction the fish is going

I love that you are trying to tell me how to do it <3 love you for that
but still it doesn't make the game better. The base for this part of the game is ♥♥♥♥ and that's kinda it.. sadly.. imo ofc.

[Despell]

Originally posted by serunekai:

Originally posted by Inanegrain62:

I somewhat recognize this part normally as it is getting away from too much tension on the rod in which i'd click W/S+whichever direction the fish is going

I love that you are trying to tell me how to do it <3 love you for that
but still it doesn't make the game better. The base for this part of the game is ♥♥♥♥ and that's kinda it.. sadly.. imo ofc.

if you have a controller then the rumbling tells you when you damage the line

[serunekai]

Originally posted by Despell:

Originally posted by serunekai:

I love that you are trying to tell me how to do it <3 love you for that
but still it doesn't make the game better. The base for this part of the game is ♥♥♥♥ and that's kinda it.. sadly.. imo ofc.

if you have a controller then the rumbling tells you when you damage the line

Actually it doesn't, i've tried with controller and kb

[Despell]

Originally posted by serunekai:

Originally posted by Despell:

if you have a controller then the rumbling tells you when you damage the line

Actually it doesn't, i've tried with controller and kb

xbox or ps should work fine. mine stops rumbling if the battery is low

[Thug Killadome]

hate whenever the fish decides to move L/R in rapid succession and your line breaks despite following its direction correctly the entire time and getting no rumble from the controller that normally happens when you input the wrong direction


anytime the fish does this its an automatic fail and just feels miserable every time